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What do you think about the Spratly Islands dispute?

Postby 2p Greenland » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:22 pm

The Spratly Islands dispute is an ongoing territorial dispute between Brunei, China (People's Republic of China), Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan (Republic of China), and Vietnam, concerning ownership of the Spratly Islands, a group of islands and associated "maritime features"(reefs, banks, cays, etc.) located in the South China Sea. The dispute is characterised by diplomatic stalemate and the employment of low-level military pressure techniques (such as military occupation of disputed territory) in the advancement of national territorial claims. All except Brunei occupy some of the maritime features.

The Spratly Islands are important for economic and strategic reasons. The Spratly area holds potentially significant, but largely unexplored, reserves of oil and natural gas; it is a productive area for world fishing; it is one of the busiest areas of commercial shipping traffic; and surrounding countries would get an extended continental shelf if their claims were recognised. In addition to economic incentives, the Spratlys sit astride major maritime trade routes to Northeast Asia, giving them added significance as positions from which to monitor maritime activity in the South China Sea and to potentially base and project military force from. In 2014, China drew increased international attention due to its dredging activities within the Spratlys, amidst speculation it is planning to further develop its military presence in the area. Only China (PRC), Taiwan (ROC), and Vietnam have made claims based on historical sovereignty of the islands. The Philippines, however, claims part of the area as its territory under UNCLOS, an agreement parts of which have been ratified by the countries involved in the Spratly islands dispute.

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Postby Ebycene » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:24 pm

What is YOUR stance then, OP? We'd like to know.

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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:25 pm

It is best for the islands to not be under communist rule.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:27 pm

Give them to China.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:28 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:It is best for the islands to not be under communist rule.

Considering there are no Communists laying claim to them, I don't think that's a problem.
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Postby Arab Jamahiriyahs » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:28 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Give them to China.

My views summed up.
In fact, it would be worse with Vietnam or anyone else.
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Postby 2p Greenland » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:30 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Give them to China.


If the island would be given to China, what would happen with the agreement that the countries had made? Wouldn't it create a conflict between them?

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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:31 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is best for the islands to not be under communist rule.

Considering there are no Communists laying claim to them, I don't think that's a problem.

China and Vietnam claim them.
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Postby 2p Greenland » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:32 pm

Arab Jamahiriyahs wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Give them to China.

My views summed up.
In fact, it would be worse with Vietnam or anyone else.


Agreed.

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Postby Lalaki » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:33 pm

I'm inclined to support a division of the islands between the Philippines, Vietnam, and Brunei. They are all in very close proximity to the actual reefs themselves.

The PRC already has a lot of resources. It is the world's second largest economy. Perhaps less positioned nations would see a lot more benefit and development. Power needs to be shared, after all. I have to disagree with their (China's) claim of the islands. Its geographical location also makes the assertion less justifiable. The Philippines and Brunei are right next to the land.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:33 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Considering there are no Communists laying claim to them, I don't think that's a problem.

China and Vietnam claim them.

Neither of which are Communist. Thanks for agreeing with me.
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Postby 2p Greenland » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:33 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is best for the islands to not be under communist rule.

Considering there are no Communists laying claim to them, I don't think that's a problem.


China, Taiwan and Vietnam claims some parts of the Island.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:34 pm

2p Greenland wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Considering there are no Communists laying claim to them, I don't think that's a problem.


China, Taiwan and Vietnam claims some parts of the Island.

None of which are Communist.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:34 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:China and Vietnam claim them.

Neither of which are Communist. Thanks for agreeing with me.

They are Socialist states working towards Communism.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:35 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Neither of which are Communist. Thanks for agreeing with me.

They are Socialist states working towards Communism.

Which is not Communism. Thanks for playing.

Also, I'm not certain about Vietnam but China is most certainly not Socialist. It's State-Capitalist.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:44 pm

Arab Jamahiriyahs wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Give them to China.

My views summed up.
In fact, it would be worse with Vietnam or anyone else.


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