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Secularism: Good or Bad?

Postby Kelinfort » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:33 pm

Knowing what will eventually happen in the coming pages, I'm hoping I don't regret this...

Secularism is the belief in the seperation of religion and state. Very common in the Western world, this system effectively prevents government from endorsing one religion over another and setting religious laws strictly around public worship.

Secularism has been a controversial subject in the West (well, mainly the US). Secularism has been hailed for the freedom of religion it provides. However, theocrats and the religious attack secularism on philosophical and religious grounds.

I strongly support secularism. Everyone has the freedom to select their faith and live without fear of government intrusion. State churches are a waste of funding and overall, waste state resources.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:45 pm

Keep your religion to yourself, and I'll keep mine to myself. That is my position on secularism.
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Postby Sphermenia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:46 pm

Secularism is much better hank you very much

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Postby Ararat Mountain » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:46 pm

Some people mistake secularism as encouraged state atheism.
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Postby Sphermenia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:47 pm

Ararat Mountain wrote:Some people mistake secularism as encouraged state atheism.

I am not Athiest but I think that would not be a bad thing

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:48 pm

Good.
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Postby Tyrinth » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:48 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Keep your religion to yourself, and I'll keep mine to myself. That is my position on secularism.

This is a good belief, in my opinion, and is not far from my own stance.

In fact, this stance could be extended to other topics in order to improve the world as a whole, I believe....
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:48 pm

Secularism all the way.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:51 pm

My response to the secularists would be - "how do you know that you are totally and completely right about your interpretation of historical science?"
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:51 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:My response to the secularists would be - "how do you know that you are totally and completely right about your interpretation of historical science?"


Because it's what all the evidence says.

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Postby The North American Remnants » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:52 pm

Tyrinth wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Keep your religion to yourself, and I'll keep mine to myself. That is my position on secularism.

This is a good belief, in my opinion, and is not far from my own stance.

In fact, this stance could be extended to other topics in order to improve the world as a whole, I believe....


This. This a thousand times.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:52 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:My response to the secularists would be - "how do you know that you are totally and completely right about your interpretation of historical science?"


Simple. Because it's not the Bible.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:54 pm

And see, secularism is bad because it forces people to believe in millions of years and evolution. It also forces you to believe there is no God! Can you believe that?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:55 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:And see, secularism is bad because it forces people to believe in millions of years and evolution. It also forces you to believe there is no God! Can you believe that?


No it doesn't. Try again.
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:55 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:And see, secularism is bad because it forces people to believe in millions of years and evolution. It also forces you to believe there is no God! Can you believe that?

No it doesn't.

That's state atheism.
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Postby The balkens » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:55 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:And see, secularism is bad because it forces people to believe in millions of years and evolution. It also forces you to believe there is no God! Can you believe that?


Yes.

Yes i can.

Because quite frankly i would rath-WAIT WHAT!?

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:57 pm

Good. My preferred version of secularism is French-style laïcité. Religion should not be an element of public life - politics, government, the public service, etc. The state should not favour any religion nor irreligion. It should just abstain from involvement in religious affairs.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:57 pm

We should be willing to question millions of years. Agree or disagree?
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:57 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:And see, secularism is bad because it forces people to believe in millions of years and evolution. It also forces you to believe there is no God! Can you believe that?

We need to buy you a dictionary for Christmas.
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:My response to the secularists would be - "how do you know that you are totally and completely right about your interpretation of historical science?"

I was there. I saw evolution happen.
Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:We should be willing to question millions of years. Agree or disagree?

What?
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:And see, secularism is bad because it forces people to believe in millions of years and evolution. It also forces you to believe there is no God! Can you believe that?

We need to buy you a dictionary for Christmas.


I know what secularism means: non-Christian/pagan.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:We should be willing to question millions of years. Agree or disagree?


Disagree, all the evidence supports it.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:My response to the secularists would be - "how do you know that you are totally and completely right about your interpretation of historical science?"

I was there. I saw evolution happen.

We even got the t-shirt!
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Postby The balkens » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:My response to the secularists would be - "how do you know that you are totally and completely right about your interpretation of historical science?"

I was there. I saw evolution happen.


So did i.

All it was is that Darwin lit a match.

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