Should every woman have a gun?

[Dokrib Choseon]

Considering America is a country where the police allows white guys with guns (and possibly a violent past) to walk around freely and untouched (even if they shoot an innocent black guy in the street), but will open fire on a completely innocent black man (with no violent history) just for leaving a store with a purchased toy sword, I think this will spell a very bad time for any non white female holding a weapon at all.

On the contrary, it's for just this reason that I'd want my (Chinese) girlfriend to have a gun if she ever were to stay for an extended time in my old homeland. Here in China, violent crime is almost nonexistent, and the cops aren't repressive racist fascists, so it's quite possible to have a peaceful life without weapons. In America, though, I had a gun license, owned guns, often went shooting, and honestly I wouldn't feel comfortable living in America with my girlfriend unless she at least did the same (and even then...).

[Papait]

"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
So yes I believe in the right for both men and women to carry a gun for self defense. I'd rather have a woman explain to the cops why the rapist is dead as opposed to allowing the rapist do as he/she pleases. And speaking from experience I'd rather have my (female) mugger bleeding out then being beaten to within an inch of my life. As the saying goes "God didn't make all men equal, Mr. Colt did".

But the problem is not that a rapist will die. It is that an innocent men will die if he is mistaken for a rapist. The argument againsy carrying guns is not that it may be used to defend oneself. But that it may be used on an innocent person when the user eithers mistakes him for a threat or does not take aim well and hits a bystander

[Papait]

It's the social contract, it's the base of any state. People who do not want to abide the social contract and wish to keep their right to violence should move to Somalia or Liberia where there is no functioning government.
You have to choose between living in a state where the government protects you, or where you protect yourself, you can't choose both

How about those who do not like Americas gun-rights move to a m,re restrictive nanny-state?

The government CAN'T protect you 100% of the time. You have to be prepared for your own defense.

Fortunatly i do not live in america. Its worse enough that the dealers and hustlers have guns, i couldnt imagine living in a country where every bozo has a gun

[Dokrib Choseon]

"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
So yes I believe in the right for both men and women to carry a gun for self defense. I'd rather have a woman explain to the cops why the rapist is dead as opposed to allowing the rapist do as he/she pleases. And speaking from experience I'd rather have my (female) mugger bleeding out then being beaten to within an inch of my life. As the saying goes "God didn't make all men equal, Mr. Colt did".

But the problem is not that a rapist will die. It is that an innocent men will die if he is mistaken for a rapist. The argument againsy carrying guns is not that it may be used to defend oneself. But that it may be used on an innocent person when the user eithers mistakes him for a threat or does not take aim well and hits a bystander

How is a gun distinct from any other weapon (or indeed, unarmed combat) in this regard? Would a mistaken rapist be any less dead with a slit throat than a bullet through his skull?

I want my mother, sisters, friends, and presumably in time, wife and daughters, to be able to defend themselves against those who might seek them harm. In responsible hands, a gun can be a good deterrant to violence.

[Free Detroit]

Sure, give everybody guns... Heck, even schoolchildren should be packing every time they leave the house. Full auto, AP rounds in the clip... but, seriously, basing that on the assumption that women are weak or that they may somehow be responsible for, say, being assaulted or harassed in public is entirely asinine.

[Terraguerra]

The 2011 one in Oslo, I think.

You are not too great at Geography are you?

Most of scandanavia looks alike to me, and Swedes did die in the attack.

[Big Jim P]

Sure, give everybody guns... Heck, even schoolchildren should be packing every time they leave the house. Full auto, AP rounds in the clip... but, seriously, basing that on the assumption that women are weak or that they may somehow be responsible for, say, being assaulted or harassed in public is entirely asinine.

Predators do tend to prey upon those they perceive as weak (regardless of gender), and guns are damn good equalizers.

[Jamzmania]

"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

I love this

[Nordengrund]

I think everyone regardless of gender, should be allowed to own a fire arm, as long as they are of the right age. However, they should not be required to own one, either.

[Genivaria]

No, but this is mostly because I believe that the problem is better combated through a change in societal attitudes. Creating fear for misogynists on the streets is only treating a symptom, not the disease.

You make it sound like creating fear for misogynists isn't enough. What's the point of preaching to the choir of people like us who aren't misogynists?

Because it isn't enough, and you're under the the false belief that misogynists are somehow 'the other' in our society when in reality they are a product of our society.

[Settrah]

You make it sound like creating fear for misogynists isn't enough. What's the point of preaching to the choir of people like us who aren't misogynists?

Because it isn't enough, and you're under the the false belief that misogynists are somehow 'the other' in our society when in reality they are a product of our society.

Some might argue they ARE society.

[Genivaria]

Because it isn't enough, and you're under the the false belief that misogynists are somehow 'the other' in our society when in reality they are a product of our society.

Some might argue they ARE society.

Indeed.

[Galloism]

What I am getting at is, what is wrong about learning or being instructed on the safe use of firearms?

Ifreann answered that in the post you quoted. It's a waste of time for the majority.

And your counterargument was "why teach English and driving?", two things that are used by almost 100% of students after school. Are you even trying here?

We teach military drills in JROTC.

We teach football tactics in football.

[Chernoslavia]

Sure, give everybody guns... Heck, even schoolchildren should be packing every time they leave the house. Full auto, AP rounds in the clip... but, seriously, basing that on the assumption that women are weak or that they may somehow be responsible for, say, being assaulted or harassed in public is entirely asinine.

Predators do tend to prey upon those they perceive as weak (regardless of gender), and guns are damn good equalizers.

I hate the part when he said clip.

[Mavorpen]

Ifreann answered that in the post you quoted. It's a waste of time for the majority.

And your counterargument was "why teach English and driving?", two things that are used by almost 100% of students after school. Are you even trying here?

We teach military drills in JROTC.

We teach football tactics in football.

So, a gun safety class as an elective?

[Galloism]

We teach military drills in JROTC.

We teach football tactics in football.

So, a gun safety class as an elective?

I'm on board with that.

Of course, I've been on board with that for years.

[Mavorpen]

So, a gun safety class as an elective?

I'm on board with that.

Of course, I've been on board with that for years.

I could get behind that as well.

[Chernoslavia]

Sure, give everybody guns... Heck, even schoolchildren should be packing every time they leave the house. Full auto, AP rounds in the clip... but, seriously, basing that on the assumption that women are weak or that they may somehow be responsible for, say, being assaulted or harassed in public is entirely asinine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kS8GzWl78g

[Gun Manufacturers]

Predators do tend to prey upon those they perceive as weak (regardless of gender), and guns are damn good equalizers.

I hate the part when he said clip.

I almost corrected that, but I restrained myself.

[Chernoslavia]

I hate the part when he said clip.

I almost corrected that, but I restrained myself.

Please do by all means.

[Ifreann]

Maybe I'm misremembering, but don't only a third of Americans own guns? Exactly why should every student be taught something the majority of them won't use?

Why teach children how to identify, nouns, adjectives, predicates, etc. when a majority won't use when they graduate?

I'm sorry, the majority of American high school graduates do not speak English?

What is wrong about teaching and instructing on firearms?

What is right about it?

There is instruction on how to operate a vehicle in schools.

Because lots of people drive cars.

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"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

A stupid sentiment, since guns do no such thing.

So yes I believe in the right for both men and women to carry a gun for self defense. I'd rather have a woman explain to the cops why the rapist is dead as opposed to allowing the rapist do as he/she pleases. And speaking from experience I'd rather have my (female) mugger bleeding out then being beaten to within an inch of my life. As the saying goes "God didn't make all men equal, Mr. Colt did".

And the saying is wrong. Seriously, this should be evident even to someone whose entire understanding of firearms is based on video games.

[Chernoslavia]

Why teach children how to identify, nouns, adjectives, predicates, etc. when a majority won't use when they graduate?

I'm sorry, the majority of American high school graduates do not speak English?

What is wrong about teaching and instructing on firearms?

What is right about it?

There is instruction on how to operate a vehicle in schools.

Because lots of people drive cars.

---

"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

A stupid sentiment, since guns do no such thing.

So yes I believe in the right for both men and women to carry a gun for self defense. I'd rather have a woman explain to the cops why the rapist is dead as opposed to allowing the rapist do as he/she pleases. And speaking from experience I'd rather have my (female) mugger bleeding out then being beaten to within an inch of my life. As the saying goes "God didn't make all men equal, Mr. Colt did".

And the saying is wrong. Seriously, this should be evident even to someone whose entire understanding of firearms is based on video games.

This saying has been said way before TV was invented.

[Vamtrl]

Should every woman know how to a use gun and be armed with one?

No thanks. I can see how wrong this can go.

[Chernoslavia]

Should every woman know how to a use gun and be armed with one?

No thanks. I can see how wrong this can go.

Note that he doesn't really mean ALL women.

[Vamtrl]

No thanks. I can see how wrong this can go.

Note that he doesn't really mean ALL women.

His OP says otherwise unless he clarified his position within the the last 26 pages.