Anyone here support Eugenics (Poll)

[Viperco1]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind. So I believe in the removal of genes through sterlization and gene selection that prevent that. And that we should encourage good genes through things like sperm banks.

As far as people who think its innately racist, doing so can in fact be dysgenic for example hitler killed a bunch of intelligent people, some of whom had strong enough bodies to survive gasing.

[The Black Forrest]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind.

So What about Steven Hawking?

[Ryadn]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind. So I believe in the removal of genes through sterlization and gene selection that prevent that. And that we should encourage good genes through things like sperm banks.

As far as people who think its innately racist, doing so can in fact be dysgenic for example hitler killed a bunch of intelligent people, some of whom had strong enough bodies to survive gasing.

Because random mutations never happen. Two perfectly healthy, genetically "normal" people never give birth to an infant with a clubbed foot, or a weak heart, or an incompletely formed spinal cord. Nope. Doesn't happen.

[Barringtonia]

Can we stop trying to find justifications to kill people for no other reason than 'I dun like it'.

Just, you know, just for a bit?

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind. So I believe in the removal of genes through sterlization and gene selection that prevent that. And that we should encourage good genes through things like sperm banks.

What...

As far as people who think its innately racist, doing so can in fact be dysgenic for example hitler killed a bunch of intelligent people, some of whom had strong enough bodies to survive gasing.

... the fuck?

For one, two "normal" people can conceive a child with some kind of disability or birth defect. EDIT: Shockingly almost exactly like what Ryadn said, down to the quotation marks... Now, actually taking ethics into account, where do we draw a line between "genetic selection" and "ethnic cleansing"?

[Parthenon]

If a person has a chronic, incurable disease that can be passed down to their offspring they morally shouldn't even consider reproduction...

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

[Lackadaisical2]

Can we stop trying to find justifications to kill people for no other reason than 'I dun like it'.

no, Kill those fuckers!!!

Just, you know, just for a bit?

Nope, see above.

Disclaimer: Sarcasm may have been used in this post

[South Norwega]

As long as they lead to this, then nothing is wrong:



I disagree with Eugenics because it's rather unkind to the people who are being eugenicified or whatever it's called. People should be allowed to reproduce if they wish to do so.

[Viperco1]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind.

So What about Steven Hawking?

His parents could have raised an adopted child just as well intellectually or through embryo selection gotten a healty child with the same level of intelligence but not as likely to take their mind to the grave early. I hold that he shouldn't reproduce there's other geniuses. Positive Eugenics can also increase the total number of innately intelligent people in the first place.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind.

So What about Steven Hawking?

His parents could have raised an adopted child just as well intellectually or through embryo selection gotten a healty child with the same level of intelligence but not as likely to take their mind to the grave early. I hold that he shouldn't reproduce there's other geniuses. Positive Eugenics can also increase the total number of innately intelligent people in the first place.

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How in the hell does eugenics actually serve to increase the intelligence of offspring?

[Viperco1]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind. So I believe in the removal of genes through sterlization and gene selection that prevent that. And that we should encourage good genes through things like sperm banks.

As far as people who think its innately racist, doing so can in fact be dysgenic for example hitler killed a bunch of intelligent people, some of whom had strong enough bodies to survive gasing.

Because random mutations never happen. Two perfectly healthy, genetically "normal" people never give birth to an infant with a clubbed foot, or a weak heart, or an incompletely formed spinal cord. Nope. Doesn't happen.

So dont decrease it at all we should elimintate the genetic stuff.

[Former Principalities]

If you want "healthy minds in healthy bodies," just study a lot and do plenty of excercise. There. As for screening out embryos with severe defects, I support that.

[Barringtonia]

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

Ah but who gets the choice?

If it were me you'd be first on the table given your preference for seersucker, it's an abomination

[South Norwega]

I personally think a person has the right to be born with a functioning body and mind.

So What about Steven Hawking?

His parents could have raised an adopted child just as well intellectually or through embryo selection gotten a healty child with the same level of intelligence but not as likely to take their mind to the grave early. I hold that he shouldn't reproduce there's other geniuses. Positive Eugenics can also increase the total number of innately intelligent people in the first place.

Yes. That technology was available in the early 1940s.

[Them There]

The problem with eugenics is the same problem with an all-pervasive goverment. If it is run by Angels, then all is well; Angels never run these things and it becomes "Me have big stick, all that don't agree with me DIE!"

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Furthermore, why is it necessary or even desirable to have every single person born with the same kind of physical and mental attributes?

[Parthenon]

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

Ah but who gets the choice?

If it were me you'd be first on the table given your preference for seersucker, it's an abomination

You do realize that adding a smiley to a flame doesn't make it any less of a flame?

[Ryadn]

Furthermore, why is it necessary or even desirable to have every single person born with the same kind of physical and mental attributes?

So that in the year 2081, everyone will finally be equal?

[Barringtonia]

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

Ah but who gets the choice?

If it were me you'd be first on the table given your preference for seersucker, it's an abomination

You do realize that adding a smiley to a flame doesn't make it any less of a flame?

I'm not sure I see the difference between your arbitrary parameters for sterilisation over mine is the point.

[Ryadn]

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

Ah but who gets the choice?

If it were me you'd be first on the table given your preference for seersucker, it's an abomination

You do realize that adding a smiley to a flame doesn't make it any less of a flame?

So you do wear seersucker?

[Barringtonia]

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

Ah but who gets the choice?

If it were me you'd be first on the table given your preference for seersucker, it's an abomination

You do realize that adding a smiley to a flame doesn't make it any less of a flame?

So you do wear seersucker?

We have photographic evidence.

[Viperco1]

What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and KINDLY. As it
lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction. -Francis Galton (father of eugenics)

Where do people get extermination from that? As far as who if they have a fatal or cripiling genetic diesese is who id say. Conforminty is not the goal just the ability to move and think.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and KINDLY. As it
lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction. -Francis Galton (father of eugenics)

Where do people get extermination from that? As far as who if they have a fatal or cripiling genetic diesese is who id say. Conforminty is not the goal just the ability to move and think.

Would you eliminate the genetic cause of sickle cell anemia?

[New Ziedrich]

That being said, there are idiots out there. Forced sterilization should remain on the table.

Ah but who gets the choice?

If it were me you'd be first on the table given your preference for seersucker, it's an abomination

You do realize that adding a smiley to a flame doesn't make it any less of a flame?

An obvious joke about a crappy fabric being the basis for eugenics is a flame?

[Ryadn]

What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and KINDLY. As it
lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction. -Francis Galton (father of eugenics)

Where do people get extermination from that? As far as who if they have a fatal or cripiling genetic diesese is who id say. Conforminty is not the goal just the ability to move and think.

What if I want to take it further, and root out all the dyslexics so I don't have to suffer through a post full of typos? Is that okay?