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The great crusade to ban alcohol. Should we?

Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:08 am

Alcohol is a huge problem around the world. Lives are destroyed by it. Companies make profit off of it. It just won't end until your country bans it.

I think alcohol should be banned. In the case of the U.S, we had an 18th amendment in our constitution that prohibits it. Sadly, it's been canceled by the 21st because assholes like Al Capone thought it would be nice to make problems worse.

My reasons for banning alcohol are
* It intoxicates people that disrupts society.
* it causes drunk driving and death.
* it enables rape tendencies in troubled individuals.
*it's not good for children.
* alcohol addicts are basically slaves to powerful alcohol corporations. Why do you think drug cartels exploit that? Profit.

But obviously there are problems to Prohibition like in the past.

* Alcohol would become a product of the black market creating more organized crime.
* politicians and officials that are prone to be corrupt would take bribes.
* alcohol users would be very upset.

So here are some solutions.
*Alcohol rehabilitation for addicts.
* Harsh punishments for illegal dealers.
* The closure of alcohol companies.
* anti-alcohol propaganda
* The campaign to suppress the black market using military drones. The NSA and other security agencies would be useful to tracking criminals through social media.

I know Prohibition didn't work out well before but with extra measures, it may work again in the 21st century. What do you think?
For so long, Mankind has been plagued by division. Division by culture, creed, skin color, religion and nationality. These very divisions have been the cause of most human conflicts. But in the age of globalism, we can finally have that chance to implement a world government where all human beings are seen as equals. Isn't that what everyone wants? World peace? I do. You should support that too. It may not end all conflicts, but the reductions of Man on Man violence will be at an all time low when the entire planet gets administered by one governing body.


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Postby UBS » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:11 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:Alcohol is a huge problem around the world. Lives are destroyed by it. Companies make profit off of it. It just won't end until your country bans it.

I think alcohol should be banned. In the case of the U.S, we had an 18th amendment in our constitution that prohibits it. Sadly, it's been canceled by the 21st because assholes like Al Capone thought it would be nice to make problems worse.

My reasons for banning alcohol are
* It intoxicates people that disrupts society.
* it causes drunk driving and death.
* it enables rape tendencies in troubled individuals.
*it's not good for children.
* alcohol addicts are basically slaves to powerful alcohol corporations. Why do you think drug cartels exploit that? Profit.

But obviously there are problems to Prohibition like in the past.

* Alcohol would become a product of the black market creating more organized crime.
* politicians and officials that are prone to be corrupt would take bribes.
* alcohol users would be very upset.

So here are some solutions.
*Alcohol rehabilitation for addicts.
* Harsh punishments for illegal dealers.
* The closure of alcohol companies.
* anti-alcohol propaganda
* The campaign to suppress the black market using military drones. The NSA and other security agencies would be useful to tracking criminals through social media.

I know Prohibition didn't work out well before but with extra measures, it may work again in the 21st century. What do you think?

It did not work the first time,it won't work the second..

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:12 am

It won't work.

Even less now than back then.

Information on how to make your own alcohol is easily found. And if you consume it yourself, you're not a dealer.
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Re: The great crusade to ban alcohol. Should we?

Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:12 am

UBS wrote:
Terra Sector Union wrote:Alcohol is a huge problem around the world. Lives are destroyed by it. Companies make profit off of it. It just won't end until your country bans it.

I think alcohol should be banned. In the case of the U.S, we had an 18th amendment in our constitution that prohibits it. Sadly, it's been canceled by the 21st because assholes like Al Capone thought it would be nice to make problems worse.

My reasons for banning alcohol are
* It intoxicates people that disrupts society.
* it causes drunk driving and death.
* it enables rape tendencies in troubled individuals.
*it's not good for children.
* alcohol addicts are basically slaves to powerful alcohol corporations. Why do you think drug cartels exploit that? Profit.

But obviously there are problems to Prohibition like in the past.

* Alcohol would become a product of the black market creating more organized crime.
* politicians and officials that are prone to be corrupt would take bribes.
* alcohol users would be very upset.

So here are some solutions.
*Alcohol rehabilitation for addicts.
* Harsh punishments for illegal dealers.
* The closure of alcohol companies.
* anti-alcohol propaganda
* The campaign to suppress the black market using military drones. The NSA and other security agencies would be useful to tracking criminals through social media.

I know Prohibition didn't work out well before but with extra measures, it may work again in the 21st century. What do you think?

It did not work the first time,it won't work the second..


Care to elaborate on why if won't the second time?
For so long, Mankind has been plagued by division. Division by culture, creed, skin color, religion and nationality. These very divisions have been the cause of most human conflicts. But in the age of globalism, we can finally have that chance to implement a world government where all human beings are seen as equals. Isn't that what everyone wants? World peace? I do. You should support that too. It may not end all conflicts, but the reductions of Man on Man violence will be at an all time low when the entire planet gets administered by one governing body.


Strobe Talbot. wrote:n the next century (now), nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority and realize national sovereignty wasn’t such a great deal after all.

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Postby Zorga » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:13 am

No, it wont work.

Plus...

If it is banned...Mafias will return.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:13 am

There's a well known saying on the meaning of insanity that applies, but I won't repeat it here.
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Postby Estenia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:16 am

The hardest thing ever, we humans are addicted to that, we will learn our lesson slowly, everyone using it is slowly doing a suicide, like the ones with drugs and cigarettes.
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Postby Alcase » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:16 am

Sadly, a law prohibiting the production, consumption, and distribution of alcohol will not be effective in implementing on a modern-day society.

What we should begin to do, however, is demonize alcohol and propagate its inundating amount of negative effects and, in time, we may see the cessation of widespread alcohol consumption.

Zorga wrote:No, it wont work.

Plus...

If it is banned...Mafias will return.

Mafias still exist...
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Postby Wraland » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:17 am

Nope, i like my alcohol and you're not taking it away from me.

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Postby Kiruri » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:17 am

Been there, done that. Care to elaborate on why it will work this time 'round? Also.. Alcohol does not cause drunk driving and death. ¬¬
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Postby UBS » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:17 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
UBS wrote:It did not work the first time,it won't work the second..


Care to elaborate on why if won't the second time?

notthing has changed,people STILL like alcohol,people WILL find alchohol one way or another.it would also lead to mass overcrowding in prisons,and would also lead to higher crime due to competing gangs fighting of alcohol product.

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Postby Estenia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:18 am

Wraland wrote:Nope, i like my alcohol and you're not taking it away from me.

You're suicding slowly Wralic.
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Postby The TransPecos » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:20 am

Been there, done that. Didn't work then, tell us why it will work now.

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Postby Zorga » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:21 am

I think of alcohol like sex, All humans will find a way to get both of these things...and there is no way of eradicating either. Besides, alcoholic beverages have been around for thousands of years; believe it or not, it is one of the things make humans the way they are and has helped construct our world history.
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Postby Universal Socialism » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:22 am

Personally I would support an effort to ban alcohol a second time within America. However considering public opinion, it will most likely never happen; and even if it did we would have to face all the same problems we did last time.

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Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:22 am

The TransPecos wrote:Been there, done that. Didn't work then, tell us why it will work now.


I think it will work because governments have the technology to prevent organized crime. There is still the corruption problem though.
For so long, Mankind has been plagued by division. Division by culture, creed, skin color, religion and nationality. These very divisions have been the cause of most human conflicts. But in the age of globalism, we can finally have that chance to implement a world government where all human beings are seen as equals. Isn't that what everyone wants? World peace? I do. You should support that too. It may not end all conflicts, but the reductions of Man on Man violence will be at an all time low when the entire planet gets administered by one governing body.


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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:22 am

If the goal is to increase crime, sacrifice even more human rights, waste billions of dollars, increase the prison population, and weaken the economy, then sure.

Otherwise it would be extremely foolish

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Postby Estenia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:23 am

Zorga wrote:I think of alcohol like sex, All humans will find a way to get both of these things...and there is no way of eradicating either. Besides, alcoholic beverages have been around for thousands of years; believe it or not, it is one of the things make humans the way they are and has helped construct our world history.

But ancients Greeks used to put water into alcohol so they won't have a hangover.
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Postby UBS » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:24 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
The TransPecos wrote:Been there, done that. Didn't work then, tell us why it will work now.


I think it will work because governments have the technology to prevent organized crime. There is still the corruption problem though.

even if they could stop crime,the people would be angry,and its the governments job TO SERVE THE PEOPLE,not make blind decisions.

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Re: The great crusade to ban alcohol. Should we?

Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:24 am

Wraland wrote:Nope, i like my alcohol and you're not taking it away from me.


And you are part of the problem. I think you need to educate yourself on how terrible alcohol is.
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Postby Kalbana » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:25 am

Please tell me this is a troll. This is an absurd idea. Last time we did this, we almost instantly had a million problems everywhere. Lets not ban alcohol again

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Postby Zorga » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:25 am

Estenia wrote:
Zorga wrote:I think of alcohol like sex, All humans will find a way to get both of these things...and there is no way of eradicating either. Besides, alcoholic beverages have been around for thousands of years; believe it or not, it is one of the things make humans the way they are and has helped construct our world history.

But ancients Greeks used to put water into alcohol so they won't have a hangover.


Yes, but every single person is going to water down their beverage. It tastes nasty when you use it on modern day beverages.
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Postby UBS » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:25 am

WestRedMaple wrote:If the goal is to increase crime, sacrifice even more human rights, waste billions of dollars, increase the prison population, and weaken the economy, then sure.

Otherwise it would be extremely foolish

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Postby Alto Mantovano » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:25 am

I don't even drink often and I'm completely opposed to this idea. Also, the past teaches us quite a good lesson. So, no.
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Postby UBS » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:26 am

Kalbana wrote:Please tell me this is a troll. This is an absurd idea. Last time we did this, we almost instantly had a million problems everywhere. Lets not ban alcohol again

also lets not forget when the government poisoned alcohol which then killed 45,000 people

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