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[PASSED] Repeal SC# 144 Liberate Liberal Haven

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[PASSED] Repeal SC# 144 Liberate Liberal Haven

Postby Chester Pearson » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:45 pm

The Security Council,

Recognizing Liberal Haven is a peaceful community, which does not engage in aggressive hostile actions against any other region,

Realizing Liberal Haven was invaded by an aggressive multinational force which assumed the delegacy, and placed a secret password in place, whilst simultaneously beginning to eject the native population,

Confirming this hostile action by aggressive foreign forces, goes against the Security Council's mission of spreading inter-regional peace and goodwill, Liberal Haven was liberated by Security Council resolution #144, thus allowing defender forces to enter the region, and return it to native control,

Shocked that the nation of Asquithania, was able to assume the delegacy and began ejecting the native population once again, in an attempt to refound the region under their control, against the natives wishes,

Noting the regional natives desire to refound the region under their own control,

Understanding that without the ability to password protect Liberal Haven, the region remains highly susceptible to refound sniping, should the natives attempt to refound without the ability to password the region beforehand,

Thus Believing native rights should take precedent over the wishes of the international community as a whole, and the ability to protect the region should be rightfully returned to native control,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #144 Liberate Liberal Haven.


Let's try this one instead. Feed me feedback please....
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Postby The Stalker » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:59 pm

A bit preemptive don't you think? The natives already wrote one up, yours may be slightly better written, but I think native authorship is more important and looks like it will make Queue.

Plus you've already authored multiple resolutions, why not give the native a chance to become an author too.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:01 pm

The Stalker wrote:A bit preemptive don't you think? The natives already wrote one up, yours may be slightly better written, but I think native authorship is more important and looks like it will make Queue.

Plus you've already authored multiple resolutions, why not give the native a chance to become an author too.


Because this one will actually pass, and I would rather not have a repeal that looks like it was written by a three year on the books. If a native wants a co-author tag for this, they can TG me...
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Postby The Stalker » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:20 pm

I think the other one will pass. It already has 40% of the approvals needed and over two days left. The WA usually passes these kind of native requests.

Furthermore I find it to be a very elitist way of thinking that a forum regular has more of a right to author a region's resolution than the natives themselves.

They're the ones with the rightful claim to the resolution.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:17 pm

The Stalker wrote:I think the other one will pass. It already has 40% of the approvals needed and over two days left. The WA usually passes these kind of native requests.

Furthermore I find it to be a very elitist way of thinking that a forum regular has more of a right to author a region's resolution than the natives themselves.

They're the ones with the rightful claim to the resolution.


Have I submitted it yet? If the other one fails to achieve quorum for a second time, then I will submit this.
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Postby The Stalker » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:30 pm

Fair enough, didn't realize it was their second attempt since their thread is only a day old. But still, seems like it be better to collaborate with them.
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Postby Corrupt Communists » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:46 pm

If it fails during the second time then submit it. you have my permission

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Postby Corrupt Communists » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:43 am

Also, why is TBR crap going through the SC, while a native-wanted resolution is possibly stalling for the SECOND time?

Hypocrisy much?

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Postby Berdanvia » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:26 pm

Everybody vote to Repeal Liberate Liberal Haven!!! It will help the natives secure their region with a password, without one, they are an easy target for invasion.
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Postby The Stalker » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:28 pm

According to the discussion on the other thread, seems like the people seeking the repeal are of questionable origin, and possibly raiders.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=311644

At this point I doubt it will get a repeal, and probably shouldn't.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:56 pm

The Stalker wrote:According to the discussion on the other thread, seems like the people seeking the repeal are of questionable origin, and possibly raiders.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=311644

At this point I doubt it will get a repeal, and probably shouldn't.


Yeah.... I noticed. I will leave it open, and continue to take comments should the actual natives want their regional sovereignty back in the future....
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Postby Captain Woodhouse » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:25 am

Chester Pearson wrote:
Shocked that the nation of Asquithania, a sleeper from Right Wing Uprising was able to assume the delegacy and began ejecting the native population once again, in an attempt to refound the region under Nazi control


Totally false as are the majority of your misguided, histrionic assertions.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:31 am

Against. A native should write this.
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Postby Nephmir » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:15 am

The Leningrad Union wrote:Against. A native should write this.

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Postby DWAsnia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:18 am

The Leningrad Union wrote:Against. A native should write this.

Hypocrisy much? :eyebrow:
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Postby Lexicor » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:01 am

DWAsnia wrote:
The Leningrad Union wrote:Against. A native should write this.

Hypocrisy much? :eyebrow:


Not sure which hypocritical moment you are referring to.
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Postby DWAsnia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:11 am

Lexicor wrote:
DWAsnia wrote:Hypocrisy much? :eyebrow:


Not sure which hypocritical moment you are referring to.

This.
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Postby Coraxion » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:49 am

Against. If Liberation resolution stays valid, TBR have another permanent practicing ground for the Art of Electing Delegate. Talks about "peaceful community" in Liberal Haven are total BS.

Histrionics are irrelevant, Captain Woodhouse.

The UDL's C. Pearson tries now increase his personal esteem with this trash draft, main reason I'm against this. Draft will be totally irrelevant as long as TBR Overlord Halcones, Marshals of TBR and many high ranking officers of TBR as well as long time organisators of TBH and LWU are not considered as a condemnworthy by the Security Council.

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Postby Republic of Minerva » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:12 am

Shocked that the nation of Asquithania, a sleeper from Right Wing Uprising


Right Wing Uprising has been dissolved, just saying.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:52 am

Republic of Minerva wrote:
Shocked that the nation of Asquithania, a sleeper from Right Wing Uprising


Right Wing Uprising has been dissolved, just saying.


Since when?
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Postby Republic of Minerva » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:14 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Republic of Minerva wrote:
Right Wing Uprising has been dissolved, just saying.


Since when?


About a week ago. There should be something to clear that up to avoid confusion.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:56 am

Bumping for feedback....
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Postby Cora II » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:58 am

What is point of this repeal if the Region is going to be refounded?

If refound will be success then Liberation of the region stays valid and in effect, but it is meaningless because of new Alive founder. Liberation would still make the region more safe and secure then it would without it.

Background assumption here is that WA-SC Liberations intended purpose is make region more secure and safe by preventing delegate imposed password. Region with alive and active Founder is more secure if Liberation is not repealed as the Founder (executive) can always set that password if needed (for what ever reasons) and founder can also make Delegate access non-executive for better security. Repealing Liberations are non-sensical in every imaginable cases, also with ancient regions without founder. Thus why waste time of Security council for repeals?

Exact time of refound and/or refound attempt is not determined by WA-SC liberations. I tend to think all kind extra publicity is generally bad if a region is going to be refounded. You submit repeal and everyone are then aware...

"Aha! They are going to try refound. Let's take this region under more constant surveillance."'

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:14 am



Precisely why the liberation needs to be repealed. Also why the region needs more stackers when it happens....
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Postby Cora II » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:34 am

Current WAD of Liberal Haven: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=cartanis 1 Endorsement. Liberated by WA-SC resolution #144. Other regional stats irrelevant for a search of targets.


Precisely the reason why it would be no-brainer, Chester. Raiders need something to Tag.

If Repealed, then: Raiders need something to Invade. :P
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