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Postby ESTU » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:27 pm

Condunum wrote:factual grounding


I respectfully disagree. The "war on women" seems to be an excuse for many liberals to point fingers at conservatives and call them nasty names in order to gain support for their agendas. What are the basic facts of the "war": Pay Discrimination & Restricted Access to Abortion, in short...women pouting because they are unsatisfied with the agreed-to working arrangements a/o because life slapped them in the face. In the first case, it's a matter of being too lazy to either demand higher pay or take your skills elsewhere and in the second case, putting it as delicately as I can for those particularly sensitive cases, its matter of irresponsibility.
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Postby Othelos » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:35 pm

ESTU wrote:
Condunum wrote:factual grounding


I respectfully disagree. The "war on women" seems to be an excuse for many liberals to point fingers at conservatives and call them nasty names in order to gain support for their agendas. What are the basic facts of the "war": Pay Discrimination & Restricted Access to Abortion, in short...women pouting because they are unsatisfied with the agreed-to working arrangements a/o because life slapped them in the face. In the first case, it's a matter of being too lazy to either demand higher pay or take your skills elsewhere and in the second case, putting it as delicately as I can for those particularly sensitive cases, its matter of irresponsibility.

there isn't a war on women or white people. It's an exaggeration.

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Postby ESTU » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:38 pm

Othelos wrote:there isn't a war on women or white people. It's an exaggeration.


No kidding! Did you not read my post?
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Postby Othelos » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:52 pm

ESTU wrote:
Othelos wrote:there isn't a war on women or white people. It's an exaggeration.


No kidding! Did you not read my post?

I was agreeing with the basis of your post.

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Postby Condunum » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:24 am

ESTU wrote:
Condunum wrote:factual grounding


I respectfully disagree. The "war on women" seems to be an excuse for many liberals to point fingers at conservatives and call them nasty names in order to gain support for their agendas. What are the basic facts of the "war": Pay Discrimination & Restricted Access to Abortion, in short...women pouting because they are unsatisfied with the agreed-to working arrangements a/o because life slapped them in the face. In the first case, it's a matter of being too lazy to either demand higher pay or take your skills elsewhere and in the second case, putting it as delicately as I can for those particularly sensitive cases, its matter of irresponsibility.

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ESTU wrote:The "war on whites" is as silly as the "war on women" in my book. This isn't about some grand conspiracy to get rid of white people, this is about quickly accumulating cheap votes to stay in power, plain and simple. I don't agree with how the administration is handling the problem, but I'd hardly call it a war on whites; just bold political maneuvering.

It's not really the same thing.... In the political sphere of the USA, the "war on women" has some factual grounding even if the concept itself is a hyperbole of gender inequality. The "war on white people" doesn't exist in the western world, although countries like South Africa are a different story.


Barring the fact that you ignored that part of my statement to negate something I didn't really claim existed, the pay gap is still an issue in a lot of fields, and it's not all (or even mostly) the employees' faults. Likewise, the issue of abortion is not an issue of irresponsibility. And these are only two issues we face in the ongoing movement for equality.
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Postby Hladgos » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:25 am

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Postby Valica » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:49 am

There is no war on white people. We are simply losing our "advantage" over other races globally.
We were more privileged and had more opportunities...
Now everything is leveling out and closet racists call it a war.
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Postby Condunum » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:54 am

Valica wrote:There is no war on white people. We are simply losing our "advantage" over other races globally.
We were more privileged and had more opportunities...
Now everything is leveling out and closet racists call it a war.

But but muh white country
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Postby ESTU » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:54 am

Othelos wrote:I was agreeing with the basis of your post.


Oh, sorry.
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Postby Valica » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:07 am

Condunum wrote:
Valica wrote:There is no war on white people. We are simply losing our "advantage" over other races globally.
We were more privileged and had more opportunities...
Now everything is leveling out and closet racists call it a war.

But but muh white country


That's pretty much the basis of the arguments.
Too many white people are afraid of losing whatever societal advantage they have in Western society.
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Postby Terrordome » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:30 am

If there is a war on whites, the whites are winning. Still the richest and most politically powerful ethnicity in the US and the world. The other ethnicities need to step it up a bit as it's too one-sided!
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Postby Vasatra » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:29 pm

Mugabe is head of a country called Zimbabwe; he's got very little to do with South Africa, in the same way that the PM of Canada doesn't have much to do with happenings in the US. In any case, before getting all hagiographic about the apartheid regimes in both countries, remember that the one in South Africa, at least, expropriated, without compensation, the properties of many blacks near places like Pretoria, then ordered them to move within 24 hours. And that there was universal health care for whites, but not blacks, in South Africa.

I'm actually very surprised that the majority population of South Africa has shown as much forgiveness as they have.
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Postby Lydenburg » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:11 am

Vasatra wrote:Mugabe is head of a country called Zimbabwe; he's got very little to do with South Africa, in the same way that the PM of Canada doesn't have much to do with happenings in the US. In any case, before getting all hagiographic about the apartheid regimes in both countries, remember that the one in South Africa, at least, expropriated, without compensation, the properties of many blacks near places like Pretoria, then ordered them to move within 24 hours. And that there was universal health care for whites, but not blacks, in South Africa.

I'm actually very surprised that the majority population of South Africa has shown as much forgiveness as they have.


The apartheid government also expropriated properties from whites - especially farmers - to create the bantustans.

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Postby Loscian » Tue May 09, 2017 11:56 am

Valica wrote:
Condunum wrote:But but muh white country


That's pretty much the basis of the arguments.
Too many white people are afraid of losing whatever societal advantage they have in Western society.


What social advantage?

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Postby USS Monitor » Tue May 09, 2017 12:00 pm

Loscian wrote:
Valica wrote:
That's pretty much the basis of the arguments.
Too many white people are afraid of losing whatever societal advantage they have in Western society.


What social advantage?


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