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WASHINGTON — President Obama pledged $33 billion in U.S. private and public assistance to Africa on Tuesday, although he said most of the improvements must come from Africa itself.

"Let's do even more business together," Obama told delegates to the first U.S.-Africa Leaders Summit.

Obama told the leaders of about 50 African nations that some of their governments must bolster the rule of law, reform government regulations and root out corruption to promote economic development.

Improved security on a continent that has known its share of terrorism is essential, Obama said, telling delegates, "The future belongs to those who build, not to those who destroy."

In his remarks to the summit's U.S.-Africa Business Forum, Obama discussed pledges of more than $14 billion by various American businesses for help with projects involving clean energy, aviation, banking and construction.

Coca-Cola will help provide clean water, General Electric will assist with infrastructure development, and Marriott will build more hotels, Obama said.

"The United States is determined to be a partner in Africa's success," Obama said. "A good partner, an equal partner, and a partner for the long term. We don't look to Africa simply for its natural resources; we recognize Africa for its greatest resource, which is its people and its talents and their potential."

The president discussed a total of $33 billion in public and private commitments, including $7 billion in new financing to promote U.S. exports and investments in Africa and $12 billion in help from the president's Power Africa initiative involving private-sector partners, the World Bank and the government of Sweden.

Obama spoke of efforts to increase trade between the United States and Africa, expand African electricity and other infrastructure, improve trade between nations within Africa, and help young entrepreneurs and other business leaders get started.

Before his speech, Obama signed an executive order creating the President's Advisory Council on Doing Business in Africa.

Tuesday night, the president and first lady Michelle Obama will host a formal dinner for the African heads of state and government officials attending the conference. Up to 400 guests are expected at the dinner on the South Lawn of the White House


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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:31 pm

What is your opinion, young grasshopper?

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Postby Viritica » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:00 pm

I support this. The world needs to do its part to help Africa get out of this massive rut.
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Postby East Africa1 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:05 pm

Kelinfort wrote:What is your opinion, young grasshopper?


I support the summit although I think diplomatically, the USA is to late. China and the EU have already overtaken them.

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Postby Earth in Roughly 1000 Years » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:07 pm

Viritica wrote:I support this. The world needs to do its part to help Africa get out of this massive rut.

Not only that, Africa is the future, and China knows it, so if the US wants to stay competitive they should get involved.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:09 pm

East Africa1 wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:What is your opinion, young grasshopper?


I support the summit although I think diplomatically, the USA is to late. China and the EU have already overtaken them.

Iirc isn't there growing anti-Chinese sentiment though? At least in certain parts?

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Postby Viritica » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:14 pm

Earth in Roughly 1000 Years wrote:
Viritica wrote:I support this. The world needs to do its part to help Africa get out of this massive rut.

Not only that, Africa is the future, and China knows it, so if the US wants to stay competitive they should get involved.

The Democratic Republic of the Congo currently sits atop the largest cobalt reserve in the world.

Once they start managing to harvest that shit they'll be the boomtown of the world.
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Postby East Africa1 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:25 am

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Earth in Roughly 1000 Years wrote:Not only that, Africa is the future, and China knows it, so if the US wants to stay competitive they should get involved.

The Democratic Republic of the Congo currently sits atop the largest cobalt reserve in the world.

Once they start managing to harvest that shit they'll be the boomtown of the world.


Do you mean the USA or Congo because if you mean USA, I agree with your statement and I think the USA should get the hell out of Congo.

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Postby East Africa1 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:26 am

Earth in Roughly 1000 Years wrote:
Viritica wrote:I support this. The world needs to do its part to help Africa get out of this massive rut.

Not only that, Africa is the future, and China knows it, so if the US wants to stay competitive they should get involved.


Some people describe this competition as the New Scramble for Africa.

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Postby Britannic Realms » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:27 am

As long as Britain isn't spending any money there.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:11 am

Britannic Realms wrote:As long as Britain isn't spending any money there.

Why shouldn't the UK invest in Africa and promote trade links?

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:11 am

East Africa1 wrote:
Earth in Roughly 1000 Years wrote:Not only that, Africa is the future, and China knows it, so if the US wants to stay competitive they should get involved.


Some people describe this competition as the New Scramble for Africa.

World powers have a tendency to do these things, aye.

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Postby Britannic Realms » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:17 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:As long as Britain isn't spending any money there.

Why shouldn't the UK invest in Africa and promote trade links?


We have an NHS to fund.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:30 am

Britannic Realms wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Why shouldn't the UK invest in Africa and promote trade links?


We have an NHS to fund.

Increased trade will mean more money coming in for both sides. And the UK is capable of funding more than one thing.

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Postby East Africa1 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:56 am

Napkiraly wrote:
East Africa1 wrote:
Some people describe this competition as the New Scramble for Africa.

World powers have a tendency to do these things, aye.


Ik.

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Postby Murkwood » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:12 am

This is good. China is gaining too much influence in Africa. We need to take back lost ground and continue to spread capitalism and democracy, which this summit is partially for.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:39 am

Ugh. Outside influence has screwed Africa over enough already. They don't need more of it.
Coca-Cola will help provide clean water


Oh yes, what a fantastic idea! Now we can pretend the Coca-Cola isn't one of those responsible for the water crisis!

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Postby Murkwood » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:40 am

Merizoc wrote:Ugh. Outside influence has screwed Africa over enough already. They don't need more of it.
Coca-Cola will help provide clean water


Oh yes, what a fantastic idea! Now we can pretend the Coca-Cola isn't one of those responsible for the water crisis!

How are they responsible?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:41 am

Excellent. We've ignored Africa as a new center of growth for far too long; good to see we're rectifying that mistake.
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Postby Angleter » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:40 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:As long as Britain isn't spending any money there.

Why shouldn't the UK invest in Africa and promote trade links?


We can invest in them, but you can forget about a free trade agreement until we're out of a certain protectionist bloc, whose protectionism with respect to agriculture in particular, incidentally, has been a key driver in keeping Africa in grinding poverty.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:47 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Ugh. Outside influence has screwed Africa over enough already. They don't need more of it.


Oh yes, what a fantastic idea! Now we can pretend the Coca-Cola isn't one of those responsible for the water crisis!

How are they responsible?

Major companies like Nestle, Coke, Pepsi, and the like go to countries in Africa, get the governments to privatize the water, and take control over the water supply, bottling most of it, and sending it overseas, and charging the people living there exorbitant amounts for the little water they give them.

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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:47 pm

Apparently Biden thinks the nation of Africa is doing swell. :p
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:44 pm

Murkwood wrote:This is good. China is gaining too much influence in Africa. We need to take back lost ground and continue to spread capitalism and democracy, which this summit is partially for.


China was just filling a vacuum in Africa.
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Postby Carbon based lifeforms » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:13 pm

Angleter wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Why shouldn't the UK invest in Africa and promote trade links?


We can invest in them, but you can forget about a free trade agreement until we're out of a certain protectionist bloc, whose protectionism with respect to agriculture in particular, incidentally, has been a key driver in keeping Africa in grinding poverty.

Yes, the EU is evil because it keeps its people well-fed. :roll:

The African economic situation is a teeny tiny bit more complicated than that.


Merizoc wrote:Major companies like Nestle, Coke, Pepsi, and the like go to countries in Africa, get the governments to privatize the water, and take control over the water supply, bottling most of it, and sending it overseas, and charging the people living there exorbitant amounts for the little water they give them.

Come again? They are transporting water overseas? I'm gonna need a source for that.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:57 pm

Carbon based lifeforms wrote:
Angleter wrote:
We can invest in them, but you can forget about a free trade agreement until we're out of a certain protectionist bloc, whose protectionism with respect to agriculture in particular, incidentally, has been a key driver in keeping Africa in grinding poverty.

Yes, the EU is evil because it keeps its people well-fed. :roll:

The African economic situation is a teeny tiny bit more complicated than that.


Merizoc wrote:Major companies like Nestle, Coke, Pepsi, and the like go to countries in Africa, get the governments to privatize the water, and take control over the water supply, bottling most of it, and sending it overseas, and charging the people living there exorbitant amounts for the little water they give them.

Come again? They are transporting water overseas? I'm gonna need a source for that.

Isn't that sort of thing common knowledge? Anyway, ask, and ye shall receive. Hell, here's a shipping company saying bottled water is one of the things it ships. From anywhere in the world, to anywhere in the world.
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