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The Problem with Europe's Anti-Slavism

Postby Russia Will Defeat Europe » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:57 pm

The European response to the Ukraine Civil War is predicated on the fact that if Ukraine were allowed to break up, it would bode ill for the rest of Europe. Many of the NATO governments are contending with break away ethnic groups seeking independence for their lands and people.

If the European response to Ukraine is any indication, then the Western European response to seccessionism will indeed by bloody and brutal.

Wikipedia has a long list of secessionist movements in Europe the majority of whome have legitimate and credible aspirations of regaining their independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... _in_Europe

Of all the nations of Western Europe, it appears that only the UK is willing to let a province, Scotland, leave peacefully. Spain has indicated it would use lethal force against the Basques if they approved independence in a referendum to held in that province by the end of this year.
France has indicated likewise.

While the UK could very well be an exception, the fact is that continental Europe is fracturing at the seams.

In Belgium there are three ethnic groups seeking either independence or to join the neighboring states of France or Germany. Just as ethnic Russians in Ukraine have chosen to become independent then seek to join with Russia.

In the Czech Republic both the Moravians and the Silesians are beginning to demand independence.

The Faroe Islands are seeking independence from Denmark.

The Basques are seeking independence from both France and Spain.

In addition Brittany, Catalonia, Savoy, and the people of the island of Corsica are all seeking independence from France and the Russian people sympathize their plight.

In Germany the people of Bavaria, Lusatia, and East Frisia are all demanding more autonomy and independence. Perhaps Russia should lend them economic assistance.

The people's of both Sardinia and Sicily have rightfully decided they no longer wish to be affiliated with Italy so why should the world force them, at gun point, to do so?
Not to mention there has been talk that Venice wants its independence back.

The Polish regions of Lithuania wish to leave Lithuania and reunite with Poland. They should be allowed to do so.

Of course the Silessians want independence from Poland just as they want independence from the Czech Republic. To force them to remain the divided slaves of two western imperialist regimes is a grave injustice.

The Azores are seeking independence from Portugal and it should be Russian policy to support their aspirations in return for an Atlantic naval base for the Russian navy who would provice security for the new nation and ensure that NATO does not try to invade and reenslave them.

In Spain Aragon and Andalusia join the Baques and many other provinces in demanding independence from Spanish tyranny.

Besides Scotland there are many other provinces and territories seeking independence from the UK.

Nationalism is not just confined to Slavs or Russians. It is rampant through out Europe. The people of Ukraine had a chance to resolve their differences with their Russians citizens peacefully but instead chose Nazism and lethal force against defenseless and unarmed civilians. It is this model that the governments of the EU have chosen to support.

Russia is not just an innocent bystander. Unlike Europe, Russia is not weak and will not be breaking up into pieces any time soon. Also, because Russia is the second strongest nation on earth, the arrogant governments of the west were surprised when Russia defended the human rights of Russian ethnic groups in Georgia and in Ukraine and in Moldova.

Recently Russian warplanes were spotted right off the coast of most NATO countries. This is not a precursor to invasion but intended to put the Europeans governments on notice that if NATO acts militarily in Ukraine against the Russian minority groups, Russia is ready and able to hit back at all the capitals of Europe and there is little Europe can do except whine to the Americans to come and save them.

But the real problem with Europe's anti slavism is that it is hypocritical attempt to cover up the fact their own nations are beginning to fracture and have been fracturing for some time in certain cases such as the Basques.

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Postby Urmanian » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:15 pm

The most hilarious thing about this entire wall of text is Russia's laws that make spreading separatist views punishable with five years of prison time.

That's speaking of hypocrisy. The rest of your post was also good comedic read, too. "Russian people sympathize with the plight of the people of Lusatia and East Frisia"...I...I can't. Let someone else pick you apart.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:16 pm

Protip; if you're going to create a Controversial Opinion Puppet to get attention, at least change the flag. Or, y'know, wait a few days. A 30-minute-old nation with a default flag that went straight to NSG to post a Controversial Opinion, then logged off? Too obvious.

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Postby Urmanian » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:20 pm

Also funny thing how Russia has one of the longest lists of separatist movements in the link the OP provided eh?
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:21 pm

I see that the cyberwarfare department of Russian intelligence services are doing their job well...

Seriously, OP, how much do they pay for posting propaganda on foreign websites? I wouldn't mind the job myself, provided the pay is right.
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Postby Urmanian » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:23 pm

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I see that the cyberwarfare department of Russian intelligence services are doing their job well...

Seriously, OP, how much do they pay for posting propaganda on foreign websites? I wouldn't mind the job myself, provided the pay is right.

About 3 bucks a post.
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Postby New Terricon » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:24 pm

Oh, ok. I'm TOTTALY convinced that this OP is a sensible, unbiased intellectual who is just pointing out a growing problem in Europe.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:26 pm

Russia Will Defeat Europe wrote:In Belgium there are three ethnic groups seeking either independence or to join the neighboring states of France or Germany.

lel.

As if.

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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:26 pm

Russia Will Defeat Europe wrote:The European response to the Ukraine Civil War is predicated on the fact that if Ukraine were allowed to break up, it would bode ill for the rest of Europe. Many of the NATO governments are contending with break away ethnic groups seeking independence for their lands and people.

If the European response to Ukraine is any indication, then the Western European response to seccessionism will indeed by bloody and brutal.

Wikipedia has a long list of secessionist movements in Europe the majority of whome have legitimate and credible aspirations of regaining their independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... _in_Europe

Of all the nations of Western Europe, it appears that only the UK is willing to let a province, Scotland, leave peacefully. Spain has indicated it would use lethal force against the Basques if they approved independence in a referendum to held in that province by the end of this year.
France has indicated likewise.

While the UK could very well be an exception, the fact is that continental Europe is fracturing at the seams.

In Belgium there are three ethnic groups seeking either independence or to join the neighboring states of France or Germany. Just as ethnic Russians in Ukraine have chosen to become independent then seek to join with Russia.

In the Czech Republic both the Moravians and the Silesians are beginning to demand independence.

The Faroe Islands are seeking independence from Denmark.

The Basques are seeking independence from both France and Spain.

In addition Brittany, Catalonia, Savoy, and the people of the island of Corsica are all seeking independence from France and the Russian people sympathize their plight.

In Germany the people of Bavaria, Lusatia, and East Frisia are all demanding more autonomy and independence. Perhaps Russia should lend them economic assistance.

The people's of both Sardinia and Sicily have rightfully decided they no longer wish to be affiliated with Italy so why should the world force them, at gun point, to do so?
Not to mention there has been talk that Venice wants its independence back.

The Polish regions of Lithuania wish to leave Lithuania and reunite with Poland. They should be allowed to do so.

Of course the Silessians want independence from Poland just as they want independence from the Czech Republic. To force them to remain the divided slaves of two western imperialist regimes is a grave injustice.

The Azores are seeking independence from Portugal and it should be Russian policy to support their aspirations in return for an Atlantic naval base for the Russian navy who would provice security for the new nation and ensure that NATO does not try to invade and reenslave them.

In Spain Aragon and Andalusia join the Baques and many other provinces in demanding independence from Spanish tyranny.

Besides Scotland there are many other provinces and territories seeking independence from the UK.

Nationalism is not just confined to Slavs or Russians. It is rampant through out Europe. The people of Ukraine had a chance to resolve their differences with their Russians citizens peacefully but instead chose Nazism and lethal force against defenseless and unarmed civilians. It is this model that the governments of the EU have chosen to support.

Russia is not just an innocent bystander. Unlike Europe, Russia is not weak and will not be breaking up into pieces any time soon. Also, because Russia is the second strongest nation on earth, the arrogant governments of the west were surprised when Russia defended the human rights of Russian ethnic groups in Georgia and in Ukraine and in Moldova.

Recently Russian warplanes were spotted right off the coast of most NATO countries. This is not a precursor to invasion but intended to put the Europeans governments on notice that if NATO acts militarily in Ukraine against the Russian minority groups, Russia is ready and able to hit back at all the capitals of Europe and there is little Europe can do except whine to the Americans to come and save them.

But the real problem with Europe's anti slavism is that it is hypocritical attempt to cover up the fact their own nations are beginning to fracture and have been fracturing for some time in certain cases such as the Basques.

the last time countrty You successfully invaded that wasn't already either fighting or controlled by Nazi germany was Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia as less the 1/20 your population. care to remember what Germany did to you in 1914-18
or Poland in 1921
or Finland in 1939
or the afghans in 1980
little Europe could do my ass.

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Postby Constaniana » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:31 pm

Ah, good witty Russian humour never gets old.

This is what I'm reading, right? A long joke?
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:34 pm

Not only did you copy pasta...you copy paste'd bullshit.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:34 pm

Constaniana wrote:Ah, good witty Russian humour never gets old.

This is what I'm reading, right? A long joke?

I always hear Anton Checkov was a master of it.
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Postby Luxew » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:35 pm

If there's these gigantic independence movements in some of these countries, why is Belgium still existant and France retains Brittany? Because most of these movements are small.

But seriously, this is hilarious. RT does need a another report against Europe. :p
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Postby Cyrisnia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:37 pm

+10 points to OP for being non biased in any way.
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Postby TriStates » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:40 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
Russia Will Defeat Europe wrote:The European response to the Ukraine Civil War is predicated on the fact that if Ukraine were allowed to break up, it would bode ill for the rest of Europe. Many of the NATO governments are contending with break away ethnic groups seeking independence for their lands and people.

If the European response to Ukraine is any indication, then the Western European response to seccessionism will indeed by bloody and brutal.

Wikipedia has a long list of secessionist movements in Europe the majority of whome have legitimate and credible aspirations of regaining their independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... _in_Europe

Of all the nations of Western Europe, it appears that only the UK is willing to let a province, Scotland, leave peacefully. Spain has indicated it would use lethal force against the Basques if they approved independence in a referendum to held in that province by the end of this year.
France has indicated likewise.

While the UK could very well be an exception, the fact is that continental Europe is fracturing at the seams.

In Belgium there are three ethnic groups seeking either independence or to join the neighboring states of France or Germany. Just as ethnic Russians in Ukraine have chosen to become independent then seek to join with Russia.

In the Czech Republic both the Moravians and the Silesians are beginning to demand independence.

The Faroe Islands are seeking independence from Denmark.

The Basques are seeking independence from both France and Spain.

In addition Brittany, Catalonia, Savoy, and the people of the island of Corsica are all seeking independence from France and the Russian people sympathize their plight.

In Germany the people of Bavaria, Lusatia, and East Frisia are all demanding more autonomy and independence. Perhaps Russia should lend them economic assistance.

The people's of both Sardinia and Sicily have rightfully decided they no longer wish to be affiliated with Italy so why should the world force them, at gun point, to do so?
Not to mention there has been talk that Venice wants its independence back.

The Polish regions of Lithuania wish to leave Lithuania and reunite with Poland. They should be allowed to do so.

Of course the Silessians want independence from Poland just as they want independence from the Czech Republic. To force them to remain the divided slaves of two western imperialist regimes is a grave injustice.

The Azores are seeking independence from Portugal and it should be Russian policy to support their aspirations in return for an Atlantic naval base for the Russian navy who would provice security for the new nation and ensure that NATO does not try to invade and reenslave them.

In Spain Aragon and Andalusia join the Baques and many other provinces in demanding independence from Spanish tyranny.

Besides Scotland there are many other provinces and territories seeking independence from the UK.

Nationalism is not just confined to Slavs or Russians. It is rampant through out Europe. The people of Ukraine had a chance to resolve their differences with their Russians citizens peacefully but instead chose Nazism and lethal force against defenseless and unarmed civilians. It is this model that the governments of the EU have chosen to support.

Russia is not just an innocent bystander. Unlike Europe, Russia is not weak and will not be breaking up into pieces any time soon. Also, because Russia is the second strongest nation on earth, the arrogant governments of the west were surprised when Russia defended the human rights of Russian ethnic groups in Georgia and in Ukraine and in Moldova.

Recently Russian warplanes were spotted right off the coast of most NATO countries. This is not a precursor to invasion but intended to put the Europeans governments on notice that if NATO acts militarily in Ukraine against the Russian minority groups, Russia is ready and able to hit back at all the capitals of Europe and there is little Europe can do except whine to the Americans to come and save them.

But the real problem with Europe's anti slavism is that it is hypocritical attempt to cover up the fact their own nations are beginning to fracture and have been fracturing for some time in certain cases such as the Basques.

the last time countrty You successfully invaded that wasn't already either fighting or controlled by Nazi germany was Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia as less the 1/20 your population. care to remember what Germany did to you in 1914-18
or Poland in 1921
or Finland in 1939
or the afghans in 1980
little Europe could do my ass.


If say, any of this was based in actual logical (remotely probable) thought. Then Europe would go to hell, the UN would become even more useless, and North America would point at it's flailing sister/brother nations across the 'Lantic and lulz many lulz.
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Postby Blazedtown » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:56 pm

So any guesses as to how much the Kremlin is paying the OP?
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:57 pm

I care much more about the Basques, to be honest.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:01 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I see that the cyberwarfare department of Russian intelligence services are doing their job well...

Seriously, OP, how much do they pay for posting propaganda on foreign websites? I wouldn't mind the job myself, provided the pay is right.

About 3 bucks a post.


Hmm. I might consider applying for the job.
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Estado Paulista wrote:Hmm. I might consider applying for the job.


Don't even try. I'm ten times the shitposter you are.
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Postby Digital Planets » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:03 pm

Russia Will Defeat Europe wrote:-snip-


Did you really create that nation to antagonize people?
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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:04 pm

Quintium wrote:
Estado Paulista wrote:Hmm. I might consider applying for the job.


Don't even try. I'm ten times the shitposter you are.


In that case, you're probably going to rise through the pro-Russian troll ranks quicker than me.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:12 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Quintium wrote:
Don't even try. I'm ten times the shitposter you are.


In that case, you're probably going to rise through the pro-Russian troll ranks quicker than me.

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