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by Tagmatium » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:55 pm
Ozymos wrote:If I was taking bets at this point, my best estimate (A Level Politics student re-emerging here) would be either a very close Labour win, or a Labour-Lib Dem coalition.
If Labour want to win big, they need a shake up in the ranks. Brown and Darling have got to go, for starters.
And i'm not ashamed to say this; needs moar Blair
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Ozymos » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:00 pm
Tagmatium wrote:Blair was fantastic - until it turned out that he lied over the WMDs and, recently, showed that he would have told whatever tall tale he could have to get the British public on his side to pursue Bush's American Adventure. I can't honestly believe he had the balls to say that, which is probably fair play to him.
by South Lorenya » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:02 pm
by Tagmatium » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:12 pm
Ozymos wrote:I can honestly say I don't really give a monkeys that he lied. When you consider what he did for this country in comparison to his predeccessors and his successors claims to fame, the small lie to remove a sadistic murderer from power isn't exactly taboo of the century in my books.
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Ozymos » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:23 pm
Tagmatium wrote:I don't deny that what he did before then was good - it was brilliant. Minimum wage, amongst other things...
But that will be his epitaph, whether you like it or not. Blair will be remembered for the events surrounding the invasion of Iraq, even though we both know that he did a lot of good for this country.
by Tagmatium » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:30 pm
Ozymos wrote:Indeed he will. Which is really sad thing. He brings about peace in Northern Ireland and Iraq ends up on his headstone.
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Call to power » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:43 pm
by Angleter » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:19 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The constituency in which I live has been very safely Tory even during the heyday of New Labour.
I won't be voting. The Tories will win by many thousands. What's the point? At least if we had Proportional Representation my vote might actually have a faint chance of helping a candidate from a party I like get in.
by Bostopia » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:35 am
by The chrisman union » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:25 am
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by My 3rd Floor Flat » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:35 am
The chrisman union wrote:I'm in one of the Milton Keynes constituencies, and I am too young to vote. If I could though I'd vote either Liberal Democrats or labour, as the tories are just toffs who don't give a toss about regular people.
by Krytenia » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:42 am
Bostopia wrote:Coventry North-East; Bob Ainsworth MP (Labour, Secretary of State for Defence). 14,222 majority according to http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/bob_ainsworth/coventry_north_east
I'll be voting Conservative. I don't see myself ever having a Conservative MP here, what with the constituency being made up of largely low-income areas, but with him being Minister for Defence I do see that majority being slashed, but only out of apathy from discontent over Iraq & Afghanistan rather than votes being cast elsewhere. What a former trade union leader is supposed to know about waging war I don't know.
Overall, I'm seeing a very very slim Conservative majority. UKIP will win one or two seats (in the south-east/East Anglia most likely) and the Tories will probably have to work with them (hello, referendum on Europe).
by Nadkor » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:52 pm
by Angleter » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:04 pm
Forsakia wrote:Angleter wrote:Solihull is my constituency, and while UKIP is my favourite party, their chances of not coming last are close to nil, so I'll vote Conservative, even though Dave is probably my least favourite Tory leader of all time.
Surely a kipper would hate heath more?
Will be voting Lib Dem.
by Angleter » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:08 pm
The chrisman union wrote:I'm in one of the Milton Keynes constituencies, and I am too young to vote. If I could though I'd vote either Liberal Democrats or labour, as the tories are just toffs who don't give a toss about regular people.
by Tagmatium » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:31 pm
Angleter wrote:The chrisman union wrote:I'm in one of the Milton Keynes constituencies, and I am too young to vote. If I could though I'd vote either Liberal Democrats or labour, as the tories are just toffs who don't give a toss about regular people.
CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! TEH TORY'S IS EBIL TOFFS ONLY CARE 4 TEH RICH OUR LABOUR CARES FOR EVRY1 AND OUR NHS!
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by My 3rd Floor Flat » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:33 pm
Tagmatium wrote:Angleter wrote:The chrisman union wrote:I'm in one of the Milton Keynes constituencies, and I am too young to vote. If I could though I'd vote either Liberal Democrats or labour, as the tories are just toffs who don't give a toss about regular people.
CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! TEH TORY'S IS EBIL TOFFS ONLY CARE 4 TEH RICH OUR LABOUR CARES FOR EVRY1 AND OUR NHS!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how one undertakes civilised political debate
by Tagmatium » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:36 pm
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Krytenia » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:19 pm
Angleter wrote:The chrisman union wrote:I'm in one of the Milton Keynes constituencies, and I am too young to vote. If I could though I'd vote either Liberal Democrats or labour, as the tories are just toffs who don't give a toss about regular people.
CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! TEH TORY'S IS EBIL TOFFS ONLY CARE 4 TEH RICH OUR LABOUR CARES FOR EVRY1 AND OUR NHS!
by Sel Appa » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:10 pm
by Nadkor » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:53 pm
Krytenia wrote:Angleter wrote:The chrisman union wrote:I'm in one of the Milton Keynes constituencies, and I am too young to vote. If I could though I'd vote either Liberal Democrats or labour, as the tories are just toffs who don't give a toss about regular people.
CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! TEH TORY'S IS EBIL TOFFS ONLY CARE 4 TEH RICH OUR LABOUR CARES FOR EVRY1 AND OUR NHS!
/me notes that Mark Lancaster MP (Con, Milton Keynes NE) has had more input on NHS debates than Dr Phyllis Starkey MP (Lab, Milton Keynes SW) in the 2005-2010 Parliament.
by Forsakia » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:25 pm
Ozymos wrote:Tagmatium wrote:Ozymos wrote:Don't be so sure. Whilst I noted in another thread that my view of Gordon Brown is a "gormless tw*t with zero charisma and even less testicles", as Labour he still represents the working classes, who make up the majority of Britain. And with the current recession, and then a quick look back at the last time the Tories were in power, I reckon a significant majority of Britain fancies keeping it's job, and feels it has a better chance with Labour than it does with the Tories.
And yes, you will waste your vote on the Lib Dems. Liberal as I am, the odds of them being a dominant party are somewhat slim.
I suspect Brown knows that his government is a spent force and has been for a while, which is why he's not really been putting much in to it. He wasn't as much of a grey blur under Blair, and the Labour government has been going down for a good long while.
Both my parents are members of the local Labour party and have been active members for as long as I can remember. Under Brown... its petered out. They (the government) are just foundering and have been since mid-way through the Iraq War, since it was found out that they had actually lied about the presence of WMDs.
Brown could have, and would have, won a General if he had called it as soon as he became PM and I doubt that Labour would have looked like quite such a spent force for this period, but they were virtually wasted when they didn't do it.
If I was taking bets at this point, my best estimate (A Level Politics student re-emerging here) would be either a very close Labour win, or a Labour-Lib Dem coalition.
If Labour want to win big, they need a shake up in the ranks. Brown and Darling have got to go, for starters.
And i'm not ashamed to say this; needs moar Blair
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