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[Passed] Repeal "Condemn Nazi Europe"

Postby The Dourian Embassy » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:39 pm

The Security Council,

Acknowledging that the region known as Nazi Europe attempted to destroy many regions throughout its history,

Understanding that Nazi Europe was condemned for those attempts by the Security Council,

Accepting, however, that the nations responsible for most of the condemned actions, such as Laos refugees, oh my days, and "The New Aryan People" have since been conquered and ceased to operate as independent governments,

Knowing that Nazi Europe had its dictatorial regime removed from power by a combined force of regions and organizations including The North Pacific, The United Imperial Armed Forces of The New Inquisition, The Land of Kings and Emperors and Albion and The Imperial Sovereign Realms Army of Osiris and Balder,

Acknowledging the assistance of regions and organizations such as Equilism, Europeia, The East Pacific, Lone Wolves United, The Black Hawks, The Red Fleet, Unknown, The Kingdom of Great Britain, Sicarius, Mazeria, The MT Army, Kantrias and North Korea.

Believing that the conquering of Nazi Europe by the coalition of forces listed above has eliminated it as a threat to the world,

Recognizing that Nazi Europe is no longer deserving of any attention from this esteemed body, even in the form of a condemnation,

Hereby repeals SC#37 "Condemn Nazi Europe."

Co-Authored by Cormac A Stark and North East Somerset.


I have a number of other co-authors who've helped me with this draft and I'm working on contacting them to include them. If I missed anybody in the listing of regions it was not intentional. Just let me know and I'll add you in. Also opinions are welcome.

Edit: And to avoid someone beating me to the punch I've stuck this version into the queue. I plan to move on this quickly so as to avoid getting it backlogged anymore. I feel this is a pretty simple repeal, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:46 pm

FUCK!!!!! Beat me to it....

I was just drafting a repeal very similar to this...
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Postby Misley » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:30 pm

Personnel from Argentina, Das Kommune, the Communist Party of NationStates, Alliance of Armed Nations, and The Internationale were also involved in the operation -- all of whom, including TRF and The MT Army (already listed) were part of the contingent from Antifa.
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Postby Abacathea » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:42 pm

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:FUCK!!!!! Beat me to it....

I was just drafting a repeal very similar to this...


I had a draft for this and was told not to pursue it! Son of a bitch! I still have the damned draft saved. Fuck it all!
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Postby Empire of Africa » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:43 pm

The Empire of Africa supports this.

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Postby Sacara » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:45 pm

I support this.
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Postby Frattastan II » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:34 pm

The Dourian Embassy wrote:Believing that the conquering of Nazi Europe by the coalition of forces listed above has eliminated it as a threat to the world


The Nazi Europe community has simply relocated to Nazi Europa, and did so before their original region was conquered.
Either I'd still consider it a threat - since surely relocation shouldn't be enough to make a region no longer threatening? - or, if you want to be pedantic and not consider 'Nazi Europa' and 'Nazi Europe' essentially the same thing, it ceased to be a threat before its invasion.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:49 pm

So we're going to deny NE any more attention from this body...by giving it yet another floor vote?!

Against, so that future generations may learn from this one's follies.
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:58 pm

Unless I'm seeing things, this proposal was submitted twice. :blink:

Care to explain?
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:01 pm

Nazi Europe does not deserve any more attention. Let's leave it at the condemnation and stop bringing them into the spotlight. My WA puppet will vote strongly AGAINST this resolution should it come to quorum.
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:03 pm

Ramaeus wrote:Unless I'm seeing things, this proposal was submitted twice. :blink:

Care to explain?


I never understand why people ask about that. I have a GHR filed to take down the first one, and the second one has been TG'd for. ;)

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:So we're going to deny NE any more attention from this body...by giving it yet another floor vote?!

Against, so that future generations may learn from this one's follies.


If I don't pass one someone else will try, and then someone else will try. I say we nip it in the bud now.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:13 pm

Really? It's remained untouched for years. What makes you think one military operation is suddenly going to open the floodgates of repealinators gunning for a condemn no one's paid attention to in ages?
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Postby Leutria » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:24 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Really? It's remained untouched for years. What makes you think one military operation is suddenly going to open the floodgates of repealinators gunning for a condemn no one's paid attention to in ages?

Because NAZI EUROPE is now nothing but a trophy region, with a founder and a password to ensure it never amounts to anything ever again.

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Postby Frattastan II » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:51 pm

Leutria wrote:Because NAZI EUROPE is now nothing but a trophy region, with a founder and a password to ensure it never amounts to anything ever again.


The NE community is still active in Nazi Europa, and continues to be somewhat threatening (and they don't even have to focus on defending their own region).

The repeal is essentially a celebration of the refounding operation, and a +1 for the author.
Self-serving, and based on poor arguments.
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Postby Leutria » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:31 pm

Frattastan II wrote:
Leutria wrote:Because NAZI EUROPE is now nothing but a trophy region, with a founder and a password to ensure it never amounts to anything ever again.


The NE community is still active in Nazi Europa, and continues to be somewhat threatening (and they don't even have to focus on defending their own region).

The repeal is essentially a celebration of the refounding operation, and a +1 for the author.
Self-serving, and based on poor arguments.

I will not dispute that, I am just saying that is why there may now be efforts to repeal this condemnation now, after so long of being untouched.

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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:52 am

Leutria wrote:I will not dispute that, I am just saying that is why there may now be efforts to repeal this condemnation now, after so long of being untouched.


There will be. In my efforts talking to people about this I found two other people already working on a draft, and when I posted here another person said they were working on one.

As for Fratt, it's predictable he'd be against it.
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Postby Frattastan II » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:38 am

You still failed to address any of my concerns. :P
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Postby North East Somerset » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:19 am

As the owner of Nazi Europe, it's somewhat a novelty having a region with a condemnation attached to it, so I'm pretty ambivalent on this. You could argue it is fitting either way.
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Postby Elke and Elba » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:38 am

Frattastan II wrote:You still failed to address any of my concerns. :P


Douria could probably do better with a repeal of this and a condemnation of Nazi Europa :p

North East Somerset wrote:As the owner of Nazi Europe, it's somewhat a novelty having a region with a condemnation attached to it, so I'm pretty ambivalent on this. You could argue it is fitting either way.


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Postby Frattastan II » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:39 pm

Elke and Elba wrote:Douria could probably do better with a repeal of this and a condemnation of Nazi Europa :p


That conveys the idea that just abandoning the Condemned region and recreating it elsewhere is enough to make the resolution no longer relevant, and in need of repeal. Pretty easy way to get rid of a Condemnation.
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Postby Leutria » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:46 pm

Frattastan II wrote:
Elke and Elba wrote:Douria could probably do better with a repeal of this and a condemnation of Nazi Europa :p


That conveys the idea that just abandoning the Condemned region and recreating it elsewhere is enough to make the resolution no longer relevant, and in need of repeal. Pretty easy way to get rid of a Condemnation.

Though it wasn't abandoned, it was destroyed. Slight difference, but I think it still is one.

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Postby Misley » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:47 pm

So let's repeal the condemnation of NE and get Commendations passed for TNP, UIAF, and Antifa. :p
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Postby Nierr » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:33 pm

Misley wrote:So let's repeal the condemnation of NE and get Commendations passed for TNP, UIAF, and Antifa. :p

Refounding Nazi Europe does not absolve UIAF members from griefing other regions.

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Postby Kknight » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:54 pm



The Black Riders were not involved in the take over of Nazi Europe.

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Postby Frattastan II » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:08 pm

Leutria wrote:Though it wasn't abandoned, it was destroyed. Slight difference, but I think it still is one.


Ah, nope. It was already abandoned when it was invaded and destroyed.

All NE nations moved out and relocated to their new base in February, leaving only three puppets behind and the region passworded.
The international coalition mentioned in the proposal only captured this delegateless memorial region in early June.

The significance of the raid and the refound is purely in the highly symbolic value of the target (the most recognisable Nazi headquarters falling into anti-fascist hands), not in the disruption and destruction of the community condemned by SC #37 (despite the misleading claim that the condemnee has been 'eliminated as a threat to the world'; you could take it as a reference to the mere act of refounding NE, but it wouldn't make sense in context as the threat itself didn't come from the 'region', but from its leading members, its military actions, its methods and actions) .
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