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Is the U.S. Inefficient?

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Is the U.S. Inefficient?

Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:44 am

Is the U.S. Inefficient? My answer to that is yes, when you look at taxes, unemployment rate, national debt, illegal immigrants, and idiot president, pro-homosexuality, abortion, government not following the Constitution . . .
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Postby Benuty » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:48 am

Is NS a blog?
Not really.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:50 am

Mithlonde wrote:Is the U.S. Inefficient? My answer to that is yes, when you look at taxes, unemployment rate, national debt, illegal immigrants, and idiot president, pro-homosexuality, abortion, government not following the Constitution . . .

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Postby Geanna » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:53 am

Mithlonde wrote:Is the U.S. Inefficient? My answer to that is yes, when you look at taxes, unemployment rate, national debt, illegal immigrants, and idiot president, pro-homosexuality, abortion, government not following the Constitution . . .


I would have been inclined to agree, except for the a) lack of evidence to back your view up, b) the homophobic tangent, c) the anti-abortion tangent d) finger blame.
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Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:55 am

Geanna wrote:
Mithlonde wrote:Is the U.S. Inefficient? My answer to that is yes, when you look at taxes, unemployment rate, national debt, illegal immigrants, and idiot president, pro-homosexuality, abortion, government not following the Constitution . . .


I would have been inclined to agree, except for the a) lack of evidence to back your view up, b) the homophobic tangent, c) the anti-abortion tangent d) finger blame.

i forgot to add social welfare and Obamacare.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:57 am

Painfully stupid and vague OP. There are some significant problems with the United States, yes.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:00 am

Mithlonde wrote:Is the U.S. Inefficient? My answer to that is yes, when you look at taxes, unemployment rate, national debt, illegal immigrants, and idiot president, pro-homosexuality, abortion, government not following the Constitution . . .

In order.
1. Taxes are lower under Obama then they were under Bush.
2. Getting lower.
3. Been there for decades.
4. Every country has them.
5. Was the smartest of the options.
6. Good.
7. Good.
8. Vague nonsense.
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Lerodan Chinamerica
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:19 am

Genivaria wrote:
Mithlonde wrote:Is the U.S. Inefficient? My answer to that is yes, when you look at taxes, unemployment rate, national debt, illegal immigrants, and idiot president, pro-homosexuality, abortion, government not following the Constitution . . .

In order.
1. Taxes are lower under Obama then they were under Bush.
2. Getting lower.
3. Been there for decades.
4. Every country has them.
5. Was the smartest of the options.
6. Good.
7. Good.
8. Vague nonsense.

1. Not really. He raised the top rate from 35% to 39.6%.
2. Yet the labour force is still shrinking day by day...
3. And has expanded enormously in the past ten years.
5. Ron Paul was the smartest of the options.
8. If you think it's vague nonsense then you clearly haven't read the Constitution.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:21 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In order.
1. Taxes are lower under Obama then they were under Bush.
2. Getting lower.
3. Been there for decades.
4. Every country has them.
5. Was the smartest of the options.
6. Good.
7. Good.
8. Vague nonsense.

1. Not really. He raised the top rate from 35% to 39.6%.
2. Yet the labour force is still shrinking day by day...
3. And has expanded enormously in the past ten years.
5. Ron Paul was the smartest of the options.
8. If you think it's vague nonsense then you clearly haven't read the Constitution.

This alone made me laugh. :lol2:
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Postby Benuty » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:22 am

Genivaria wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:1. Not really. He raised the top rate from 35% to 39.6%.
2. Yet the labour force is still shrinking day by day...
3. And has expanded enormously in the past ten years.
5. Ron Paul was the smartest of the options.
8. If you think it's vague nonsense then you clearly haven't read the Constitution.

This alone made me laugh. :lol2:
Ron Paul is a conspiracy theorist idiot.

Hardly, Ron Paul doesn't exist he is merely the more popular alter ego of Alex Jones.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:22 am

Aodan wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In order.
1. Taxes are lower under Obama then they were under Bush.
2. Getting lower.
3. Been there for decades.
4. Every country has them.
5. Was the smartest of the options.
6. Good.
7. Good.
8. Vague nonsense.

I agree with everything but 8.
They don't follow the constitution, otherwise there would be no gun control thing happening.

The elastic clause says otherwise.
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LaVeyan Satanism
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Postby LaVeyan Satanism » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:23 am

What's wrong with homosexuality and abortions? Let me guess, you're some kind of ultra-conservative Christian.
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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:25 am

LaVeyan Satanism wrote:What's wrong with homosexuality and abortions? Let me guess, you're some kind of ultra-conservative Christian.

He clearly supports the rights of people to have homosexual abortions. Now if only men could get pregnant then maybe it would be relevant.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:25 am

Aodan wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In order.
1. Taxes are lower under Obama then they were under Bush.
2. Getting lower.
3. Been there for decades.
4. Every country has them.
5. Was the smartest of the options.
6. Good.
7. Good.
8. Vague nonsense.

I agree with everything but 8.
They don't follow the constitution, otherwise there would be no gun control thing happening.

Gun control doesn't violate the constitution.
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Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:31 pm

LaVeyan Satanism wrote:What's wrong with homosexuality and abortions? Let me guess, you're some kind of ultra-conservative Christian.

I am a Christian that believes that marriage is a holy union between a man and a woman. Abortions are legalized murder. Look at it this way, if you saw someone about to stab someone else, would you stop the person with the knife or stand there and let the innocent person die?
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Mithlonde
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Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:32 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Aodan wrote:I agree with everything but 8.
They don't follow the constitution, otherwise there would be no gun control thing happening.

Gun control doesn't violate the constitution.

See Amendment #2.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:33 pm

Mithlonde wrote:
LaVeyan Satanism wrote:What's wrong with homosexuality and abortions? Let me guess, you're some kind of ultra-conservative Christian.

I am a Christian that believes that marriage is a holy union between a man and a woman. Abortions are legalized murder. Look at it this way, if you saw someone about to stab someone else, would you stop the person with the knife or stand there and let the innocent person die?

Except…wait for it…..a fetus isn't a person!

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Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:33 pm

Benuty wrote:
Aodan wrote:I agree with everything but 8.
They don't follow the constitution, otherwise there would be no gun control thing happening.

The elastic clause says otherwise.

The government is registering guns to control people and claim that since they were deperessed ten years ago and went to a phychiatrist, they are crazy and take their guns.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:34 pm

Does the US have some problems? Yes. But you could've made a much better, less silly OP that actually attempted to talk about them.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:34 pm

Mithlonde wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Gun control doesn't violate the constitution.

See Amendment #2.

Which literally calls for a "well regulated militia".

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Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:34 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Mithlonde wrote:I am a Christian that believes that marriage is a holy union between a man and a woman. Abortions are legalized murder. Look at it this way, if you saw someone about to stab someone else, would you stop the person with the knife or stand there and let the innocent person die?

Except…wait for it…..a fetus isn't a person!

It is separated from the Mother's body, and is not just a pile of tissue.
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Postby Mithlonde » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:35 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Mithlonde wrote:See Amendment #2.

Which literally calls for a "well regulated militia".

It's called the right to bear arms. Look into it.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:35 pm

In addition, most of the "problems" in the OP are by no means a mark of inefficiency. Merely things the OP disagrees with. So your title makes no sense.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:36 pm

Mithlonde wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Except…wait for it…..a fetus isn't a person!

It is separated from the Mother's body, and is not just a pile of tissue.

Yes it is.

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