"Christian" war on non-theists holiday celebrants

[Daistallia 2104]

Christian activists attacks non-theists holiday signage, has to be escorted out by police.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/capitol ... 87754.html

Anyone who believes there's a war on Christmas in the US instead of the other way around, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

[SaintB]

But its only a reaction from a repressed christian who's had to suffer the indignity of blah blah blah

[Katganistan]

Christian activists attacks non-theists holiday signage, has to be escorted out by police.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/capitol ... 87754.html

Anyone who believes there's a war on Christmas in the US instead of the other way around, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

ONE Christian moron turned a sign around. It doesn't mean all of us are intolerant assholes.

[Zoharland]

Didn't know one person's actions constituted a war...

Also, didn't know wars were fought by playing around with stupid signs.

[Eternal Life with God]

Fundies

[SaintB]

Fundies

Yeah... I'm getting sick of fundies from every camp.

[Hillpark]

Christian activists attacks non-theists holiday signage, has to be escorted out by police.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/capitol ... 87754.html

Anyone who believes there's a war on Christmas in the US instead of the other way around, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

ONE Christian moron turned a sign around. It doesn't mean all of us are intolerant assholes.

I Agree, there are lots of arseholes out there, some religious some not.

Teens get attacked verbally and some times physical abused by police just cause some teens take part in criminal activity.

[HC Eredivisie]

Christian activists attacks non-theists holiday signage, has to be escorted out by police.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/capitol ... 87754.html

Anyone who believes there's a war on Christmas in the US instead of the other way around, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

ONE Christian moron turned a sign around. It doesn't mean all of us are intolerant assholes.

Yes, it does. All of the muslims commit suicide attacks, all atheists eat babies and Obama is a socialist turning the USA in a communist state.

[United Marktoria]

They think Christianity is under attack when people become tolerant and exclude the word "Christmas" from their adverticements. All they are doing is enforcing their beliefs on everyone else. If they can do that, then why do they get all panicked when a Jewish organization(or heaven forbid an Atheist organization) does the same thing!

[Eternal Life with God]

They think Christianity is under attack when people become tolerant and exclude the word "Christmas" from their adverticements. All they are doing is enforcing their beliefs on everyone else. If they can do that, then why do they get all panicked when a Jewish organization(or heaven forbid an Atheist organization) does the same thing!

It's Christmas, not simply a holiday.

[Ultimate Cola]

They think Christianity is under attack when people become tolerant and exclude the word "Christmas" from their adverticements. All they are doing is enforcing their beliefs on everyone else. If they can do that, then why do they get all panicked when a Jewish organization(or heaven forbid an Atheist organization) does the same thing!

Incorrect. We get pissed when people get mad at us for saying "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays."

Unless you mean that very small portion of Christianity that actually does feel threatened by other holidays.

[SpanishCleric]

The silent majority is finally doing something worth applauding. The majority should not be dictated by the minority, not the rich 1% nor the 10% of Atheists. Do those guys Actually think the Nativity scene is offensive? Or are they just looking for an excuse to post their signs up? On the other hand, that sign is clearly offensive to pretty much any theist. I wonder if they think the Nativity scene is representative of the oppressive Christian regime that dominates society.. Oh, wait.. Those statements are false. Please, atheists, let me know if you're offended by the Nativity scene, I'll be sure to write an apology letter to you and the rest of the world for offended you So sorry.

When in Rome, do as the Romans. (Roman Catholics, even.) Or at least respect their traditions instead of trying to make a majority Christian society conform to your views because you think Theism is foolish..

la Ultima Cruzada, it's never ending.

[Conserative Morality]

I think it's obvious that we atheists are trying to 'steal' a cultural holiday.

[Der Teutoniker]

The sign definately has no business being posted on the state capitol.

The sign is nothing more than intolerant religious zealotry, as would be a sign that mocks athiests for their lack of belief.


Edit:

As to Kelly's claims that the sign mocks religion, foundation co-President Dan Barker said: "He's kind of right, because the last couple of sentences do criticize religion, and of course, the beginning is a celebration of the winter solstice. But that kind of speech is protected as well – speech that is critical and speech that is supportive."

The Nativity scene is not directly critical of other religions, a sign advocating a non-religious celebration of the Winter Solstice (which seems odd, removed from any religious context, given the Christian/Pagan history) is fine, but to dismiss all other religions, and religious people as idiots, is something that I don't think the state should support.

[UNIverseVERSE]

The sign definately has no business being posted on the state capitol.

The sign is nothing more than intolerant religious zealotry, as would be a sign that mocks athiests for their lack of belief.

That sign is no less valid a piece of religious expression than the explicitly Christian nativity scene it was posted next to.

[Conserative Morality]

The sign definately has no business being posted on the state capitol.

The sign is nothing more than intolerant religious zealotry, as would be a sign that mocks athiests for their lack of belief.

And the nativity scene has no business being up at the state capital. So, let's take that down too, shall we? I'm glad you agree.

EDIT: Damn you VERSE!

[Eternal Life with God]

I think it's obvious that we atheists are trying to 'steal' a cultural holiday.

Freedom of Expression, but you atheists are going too far. The nativity scene isn't even offensive.

[Der Teutoniker]

That sign is no less valid a piece of religious expression than the explicitly Christian nativity scene it was posted next to.

Incorrect. The Nativity is a single positive piece of religious imagery. Advocating a celebration of the Winter Solstice would be equivalent, the sign did not merely do this. Care to try again?

[Der Teutoniker]

And the nativity scene has no business being up at the state capital. So, let's take that down too, shall we? I'm glad you agree.

EDIT: Damn you VERSE!

My logic in defeating him applies to you as well. The Nativity merely expresses a positive belief, but does not call out any non-Christians, as the athiest sign did. You may try again as well, of course.

[Eternal Life with God]

The sign is nothing more than intolerant religious zealotry, as would be a sign that mocks athiests for their lack of belief.

And the nativity scene has no business being up at the state capital. So, let's take that down too, shall we? I'm glad you agree.

EDIT: Damn you VERSE!

My logic in defeating him applies to you as well. The Nativity merely expresses a positive belief, but does not call out any non-Christians, as the athiest sign did. You may try again as well, of course.[/quote]
What about non- atheists?(Btw, who are u?)

[Conserative Morality]

My logic in defeating him applies to you as well. The Nativity merely expresses a positive belief, but does not call out any non-Christians, as the athiest sign did. You may try again as well, of course.

The nativity scene expresses a belief in Christianity. By having the scene there, the government is supporting a display of Christian mythology on their property while having no opposing symbols other than the sign put up by the atheist group. Perhaps I need to pull out a few quotes from one of the founding fathers to convince you that Church and State are meant to be separated, and that the State isn't supposed to support any religion (Or lack thereof)?

[Der Teutoniker]

What about non- atheists?(Btw, who are u?)

I'm not sure what either of your questions are asking.

[Conserative Morality]

Freedom of Expression, but you atheists are going too far. The nativity scene isn't even offensive.

It's mythology. It's ignorance incarnate. Pardon me for being offended that a government building is allowing this.

[Eternal Life with God]

My logic in defeating him applies to you as well. The Nativity merely expresses a positive belief, but does not call out any non-Christians, as the athiest sign did. You may try again as well, of course.

The nativity scene expresses a belief in Christianity. By having the scene there, the government is supporting a display of Christian mythology on their property while having no opposing symbols other than the sign put up by the atheist group. Perhaps I need to pull out a few quotes from one of the founding fathers to convince you that Church and State are meant to be separated, and that the State isn't supposed to support any religion (Or lack thereof)?

Mythology?!

[Der Teutoniker]

The nativity scene expresses a belief in Christianity. By having the scene there, the government is supporting a display of Christian mythology on their property while having no opposing symbols other than the sign put up by the atheist group. Perhaps I need to pull out a few quotes from one of the founding fathers to convince you that Church and State are meant to be separated, and that the State isn't supposed to support any religion (Or lack thereof)?

I agree with everything that you are saying. I have no objection to Jewish symbols during their religious festivities, nor do I have an objection to other religious (or non-religious) statements or symbols. The problem with the athiest sign listed in the article is that it is not merely a positive support for their belief, but a direct, and open criticism of other people's beliefs.

The first half of the sign seems pretty fine "Hey, celebrate a non-religious Winter Solstice!" that sounds great, put the sign right on up there, next to the Nativity why not? But if this sign should be allowed to remain, let's let the Christian fundamentalists decry all non-Christians, otherwise we're not promoting equality here.

Also, for the record, I am very in favor of seperation of Church and State, as I think Jesus was.