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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed May 07, 2014 3:09 pm

Greetings, fellow warmachine gladiators! The first installment of this thread reached 500 pages, so it's time for a new page to discuss our favorite Wargaming games. If the previous thread is an indicator, it is safe to assume that we shall mainly discuss World of Tanks here. This does not mean that World of Warplanes and World of Warships do not have a place here, though. There are battles to be fought, comrades. Forwards!

Also it would be nice if we kept things civil in here. There have been a few incidents in the previous thread, let's try not to have those in this place. Direct your aggression where it's supposed to go: at your opponents during online battles.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Wed May 07, 2014 3:12 pm

Well I for one can not wait for world of warships.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed May 07, 2014 3:27 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Well I for one can not wait for world of warships.

Not much news on that front. Maybe 2015 shall bring us massive sea battles, but no release dates have been given yet.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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T29 is best Heavy Sniper Evah! Threaded the needle under an ELC the other day, only to have the round fly past the turret of a KV-2 and into the mountainside behind him on steppes to kill their M41 with an ammo rack... needless to say the 41 had not been spotted, but the RNG gods decided to pay me back finally for all the times they've made me their b*tch. :rofl:
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Graditora wrote:May want to contact an admin to close the last page.

I already did, there's a megathread in Moderation for exactly that.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Wed May 07, 2014 4:19 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Well I for one can not wait for world of warships.

Not much news on that front. Maybe 2015 shall bring us massive sea battles, but no release dates have been given yet.

Yeah I know. planning to play it as soon as it goes out. Also in case someone knows is it possible to be online on WOT and WoWP in the same time?
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Postby Licana » Wed May 07, 2014 4:37 pm

Just to set the tone for this thread.

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Postby Morrdh » Wed May 07, 2014 4:55 pm

Ta-Tut-Ta-Da! TOGGY POWER!

Yeah, probably the only reason why I play WoT anymore is the TOG.
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Morrdh wrote:Ta-Tut-Ta-Da! TOGGY POWER!

Yeah, probably the only reason why I play WoT anymore is the TOG.


I'd say the only reason I still play is because I enjoy seal clubbing. It's a double edged sword if MM is that fucked to post you into a team of seal, but when you get lucky, you have fun.
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Postby Vareiln » Wed May 07, 2014 6:19 pm

Licana wrote:Just to set the tone for this thread.

Useless Pubtards.

Is the Japanese line any good?

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Postby Slorch » Wed May 07, 2014 7:24 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Well I for one can not wait for world of warships.


Same. And dat new thread smell.
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Postby Registug » Wed May 07, 2014 8:39 pm

TOG best Pz. 38 best Cromwell best Matilda best Sentinel best

did I miss anything else?
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Postby Kassaran » Wed May 07, 2014 9:02 pm

Registug wrote:TOG best Pz. 38 best Cromwell best Matilda best Sentinel best

did I miss anything else?

T29 best
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The Teutonic Republic wrote:"Hammer" in Russian means "Dicks" in Finnish.

This can't be a coincidence
Korva wrote:Q: How effective would this thing be if we assume it would be very effective?
A: Very effective
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The United Remnants of America wrote:You keep that cheap Chinese knock-off away from the real OG.
Same goes for Task Force Rainbow.

bloody hell, mate.
that's a real deal. We just don't buy the license rights.

The following came from an interesting discussion regarding ANTIFA:
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Postby Registug » Wed May 07, 2014 9:08 pm

T29 I have not played

I did once do half of the damage to a T29 with the Matilda II
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Postby Kassaran » Wed May 07, 2014 9:15 pm

Registug wrote:T29 I have not played

I did once do half of the damage to a T29 with the Matilda II

Actually, the T29 i have found to be very difficult to play mostly due to MM's recent desire to be a massive asswipe and throw me into every tier 9 dominated game possible, so while indeed you may have done half the damage, given that the T29 is quite possibly one of the more mediocre tanks in recent days, it's not that impressive.
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Korva wrote:Q: How effective would this thing be if we assume it would be very effective?
A: Very effective
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The United Remnants of America wrote:You keep that cheap Chinese knock-off away from the real OG.
Same goes for Task Force Rainbow.

bloody hell, mate.
that's a real deal. We just don't buy the license rights.

The following came from an interesting discussion regarding ANTIFA:
Kowani wrote:rights are bullshit.
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Postby Licana » Thu May 08, 2014 12:38 am

Vareiln wrote:
Licana wrote:Just to set the tone for this thread.

Useless Pubtards.

Is the Japanese line any good?

The tier 10 is.

The rest, not so much.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby Consortium of Manchukuo » Thu May 08, 2014 2:41 am

Does anyone else here play French tanks primarily?

I have 92-93 percent of my games in French vehicles, I'm pretty sure this is odd. I am sad that my favored faction will not get our second heavy line for the better part of a year at least, but at least SerB has said he will finally pay attention to the Republic.

AMX 40 is cutest tank by the way. Who cares if the Matilda is hopelessly superior in all aspects.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 08, 2014 2:46 am

Wolfenium wrote:
Morrdh wrote:Ta-Tut-Ta-Da! TOGGY POWER!

Yeah, probably the only reason why I play WoT anymore is the TOG.

I'd say the only reason I still play is because I enjoy seal clubbing. It's a double edged sword if MM is that fucked to post you into a team of seal, but when you get lucky, you have fun.

I know that feeling. Bringing justice to the vile enemy with my Chinese Chi-Ha can be very satisfying. It's a pretty decent sniper for its tier. The T-15 that I won a while ago during one of those montlhly missions is also quite pleasant to play. It's pretty much a faster Pz. 38(t) with a lower profile, just the right size for hurting slower and bigger things. Well, most slower and bigger things. You tend to encounter tier V tanks every once in a while with that vehicle, since it also serves as a scout in games with tier V vehicles as the top dogs.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Licana » Thu May 08, 2014 3:09 am

quack quack.

The french lines are all fairly good, though the recent rebalancing of the Foch 155 somewhat killed my interest in the TDs. Also dem low tiers, dem horrible horrible low tiers. D:

The majority of my battles (34%) have been in German tanks.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Eilanya » Thu May 08, 2014 3:12 am

obj 416 is very good and intersting

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Postby Consortium of Manchukuo » Thu May 08, 2014 3:32 am

Licana wrote:quack quack.

The french lines are all fairly good, though the recent rebalancing of the Foch 155 somewhat killed my interest in the TDs. Also dem low tiers, dem horrible horrible low tiers. D:

The majority of my battles (34%) have been in German tanks.


I'll grant you an exception for playing in the Teuton's vehicles. Only this one time though! :p

Still, even with the TD problems, I do want to get the 155. I was really dismayed that all of my TDs in the French line got the massive increases to their weak spots on the top at the rangefinders and cupolas in recent patches. It was already easy enough for a good player to hit them, but I've had IS-6s land every shot into them despite me wiggling aggressively, and penetrate every one. I'm hoping that is just a failure of the AC 48, and I really want the Foch (120 version) to be good. I don't have high hopes, but then I'm a terrible TD player.
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Postby Hamittia » Thu May 08, 2014 3:32 am

Licana wrote:Also dem low tiers, dem horrible horrible low tiers. D:

the hotchkiss inst that bad though, is it?
everything else is dreadful but oh well

are the new pz4's any good? I'm thinking of trying to go down the german tree again but the Pz3a felt like such an utterly shit tank
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Postby Licana » Thu May 08, 2014 3:41 am

Consortium of Manchukuo wrote: Still, even with the TD problems, I do want to get the 155. I was really dismayed that all of my TDs in the French line got the massive increases to their weak spots on the top at the rangefinders and cupolas in recent patches. It was already easy enough for a good player to hit them, but I've had IS-6s land every shot into them despite me wiggling aggressively, and penetrate every one. I'm hoping that is just a failure of the AC 48, and I really want the Foch (120 version) to be good. I don't have high hopes, but then I'm a terrible TD player.


The Fochs are still good, they're just significantly worse in close-in knife fights due to the reduced engine power and overall armouring. This is unfortunate for the Foch 155, as its gun is very suited for that style of engagement, and from a long range fire support standpoint the Foch 155 is practically just a worse Waffletraktor so why bother. The changes really killed the niche role that the Foch 155 had going for it. It's still fairly competent, though.

Also yes, the range finders are now all very easy to abuse to negate the frontal armour of the Fochs.

Hamittia wrote:the hotchkiss inst that bad though, is it?
everything else is dreadful but oh well

are the new pz4's any good? I'm thinking of trying to go down the german tree again but the Pz3a felt like such an utterly shit tank

the hotchkiss is fairly mediocre tbh.

the new Pz4s aren't really worth the time either, I wouldn't bother with them unless you want to get around the Pz. 38na grind (perfectly valid reason).
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 08, 2014 3:42 am

Consortium of Manchukuo wrote:Does anyone else here play French tanks primarily?

I have 92-93 percent of my games in French vehicles, I'm pretty sure this is odd. I am sad that my favored faction will not get our second heavy line for the better part of a year at least, but at least SerB has said he will finally pay attention to the Republic.

AMX 40 is cutest tank by the way. Who cares if the Matilda is hopelessly superior in all aspects.


I have more than thousand battles in my BDR G1B and ARL 44. Still patiently waiting for the Char 2C to be introduced in the game.
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