Should the United States Annex Mexico?

[Viritica]

There's more freedom in Mexico than the US and most countries on this side of the planet. If the US were to annex, that would mean way less freedom and more corporate fascism. Furthermore, the US couldn't handle it anyway.

>Meixco's more free
>corporate fascism

[Pandeeria]

People forget that a ton of Mexican people think that a big portion of the US is Mexico and they want it back.

They will not and should not get it back.

There's more freedom in Mexico than the US and most countries on this side of the planet.

Arguably true. Though more freedom isn't a necessarily positive thing. You get more freedom to pedal drugs to people!

If the US were to annex, that would mean way less freedom and more corporate fascism.

Holy shit, that's edgy and awesome. You're saying the US is a corporatist fascist State? You're awesome!

Furthermore, the US couldn't handle it anyway.

The US is a superpower. Mexico couldn't brag about their strength since the early 30s.

[Starkmoor]

No way!

We don't want any of that drugs, crime and dysfunction. I know that Mexico has its positives, but come on, the United States annexing Mexico would be like Detroit annexing Highland Park.

Annexing Mexico over immigration seems really ridiculous too, no? I mean, if we do that then the same people we kicked out for immigration would have U.S. citizenship.

People forget that a ton of Mexican people think that a big portion of the US is Mexico and they want it back.

They will not and should not get it back.

Agreed. These nationalist claims to the southwest and west are shaky. Plus, that annexation is water under the bridge at this point.

[Casita]

People forget that a ton of Mexican people think that a big portion of the US is Mexico and they want it back.

They will not and should not get it back.

There's more freedom in Mexico than the US and most countries on this side of the planet.

Arguably true. Though more freedom isn't a necessarily positive thing. You get more freedom to pedal drugs to people!

If the US were to annex, that would mean way less freedom and more corporate fascism.

Holy shit, that's edgy and awesome. You're saying the US is a corporatist fascist State? You're awesome!

Furthermore, the US couldn't handle it anyway.

The US is a superpower. Mexico couldn't brag about their strength since the early 30s.

I've seen a lot of this edgy thing being thrown around, I don't get it?

Are you saying that corporations don't run things in the US?

Superpower blah, blah, US #1 blah, blah, Benny hill, blah, blah

US buys a ton of drugs and they have less freedom. So, not too sure about your 'drug reference'

[Kiruri]

Wow... some people... seriously.. .wtf ¬¬

[Viritica]

They will not and should not get it back.


Arguably true. Though more freedom isn't a necessarily positive thing. You get more freedom to pedal drugs to people!
Holy shit, that's edgy and awesome. You're saying the US is a corporatist fascist State? You're awesome!


The US is a superpower. Mexico couldn't brag about their strength since the early 30s.

I've seen a lot of this edgy thing being thrown around, I don't get it?

Are you saying that corporations don't run things in the US?

Superpower blah, blah, US #1 blah, blah, Benny hill, blah, blah

US buys a ton of drugs and they have less freedom. So, not too sure about your 'drug reference'

Corporations control everything.

[Viritica]

Wow... some people... seriously.. .wtf ¬¬

Is this: ¬¬

Now a thing?

[Kiruri]

Wow... some people... seriously.. .wtf ¬¬

Is this: ¬¬

Now a thing?

¬¬ no

[Beiluxia]

Eww, no. The US would look like a complete hypocrite considering the ongoing Ukrainian crisis. The combined state would equal be almost half a billion people -- the instability of implementing a new government would almost immediately cause the demise of both countries. Over 100 million Mexicans would be able to freely move and compete for blue-collar jobs in American cities. There would also be the issue of implementing Medicare, Medicaid, and countless other welfare programmes to 120 million Mexicans, as well as building up their infrastructure and public works to meet American safety guidelines. I've yet to even mention the drug war Mexico is fighting against the cartels...

[Casita]

No way!

We don't want any of that drugs, crime and dysfunction. I know that Mexico has its positives, but come on, the United States annexing Mexico would be like Detroit annexing Highland Park.

Annexing Mexico over immigration seems really ridiculous too, no? I mean, if we do that then the same people we kicked out for immigration would have U.S. citizenship.

They will not and should not get it back.

Agreed. These nationalist claims to the southwest and west are shaky. Plus, that annexation is water under the bridge at this point.

How does a country that's so dysfunctional have free health care? Does Detroit have free health care? Does Detroit allow people to open up businesses without an insane amount of licensing etc? Can we really compare Detroit to Mexico? Yes, if we want to ignore everything about mexico, other than poverty, that is common around the world.

Yes mexico has it's issues, but the US isn't lacking in poverty, gangs, and corruption either.

[Benuty]

Mexico will not and shall not get the land the U.S conquered and then paid for [irony] in the 1840s and mid 1850s. As for Mexico the U.S had the bright idea of letting Mexico continue as a buffer state because the Wilmot Proviso would have created a huge surplus in the amount of free states entered into the Union. This of-course would have tremendously ticked off the slaver factions and might have caused even more destabilization within a deeply divided political climate.

[Viritica]

Is this: ¬¬

Now a thing?

¬¬ no

Hm...

[Jelani]

Ah, the days when one could randomly invade a country for more land have, unfortunately, long since gone. Who knows, maybe we can invent time travel, and you could go back to the 1800s - that was a nice time, right?

(Just in case of Poe's Law, I'm being sarcastic)

[Pandeeria]

They will not and should not get it back.


Arguably true. Though more freedom isn't a necessarily positive thing. You get more freedom to pedal drugs to people!
Holy shit, that's edgy and awesome. You're saying the US is a corporatist fascist State? You're awesome!


The US is a superpower. Mexico couldn't brag about their strength since the early 30s.

I've seen a lot of this edgy thing being thrown around, I don't get it?

If someone try's to act hip, cool, edgy, etc. by picking a unpopular then you are considered cool.

Are you saying that corporations don't run things in the US?

It's not a corporate fascist state.

Superpower blah, blah, US #1 blah, blah, Benny hill, blah, blah

Did you just read what you wrote?

We're a fucking superpower! Mexico doesn't have shit on us!

US buys a ton of drugs and they have less freedom. So, not too sure about your 'drug reference'

How does the US actually have less freedom?

[Casita]

I've seen a lot of this edgy thing being thrown around, I don't get it?

Are you saying that corporations don't run things in the US?

Superpower blah, blah, US #1 blah, blah, Benny hill, blah, blah

US buys a ton of drugs and they have less freedom. So, not too sure about your 'drug reference'

Corporations control everything.

Tell me what they don't control? They obviously got you on the commercial bandwagon, right?

It's not a conspiracy. Money buys votes, who has the money?It's been this way throughout history. Are you telling me a poor family has the same amount of power as a major corporation? If so, you are wicked naive. Do the people own the internet? Or do corporations? Who has control of private information and give that info to government entities? The list goes on, it's not some secret conspiracy.

I get it the tin hat thing is the cool 4chan style reply. Follow the leader. The leader says tin hat, then it must be a tin hat.

[Viritica]

Corporations control everything.

Tell me what they don't control? They obviously got you on the commercial bandwagon, right?

It's not a conspiracy. Money buys votes, who has the money?It's been this way throughout history. Are you telling me a poor family has the same amount of power as a major corporation? If so, you are wicked naive. Do the people own the internet? Or do corporations? Who has control of private information and give that info to government entities? The list goes on, it's not some secret conspiracy.

I get it the tin hat thing is the cool 4chan style reply. Follow the leader. The leader says tin hat, then it must be a tin hat.

Corporations are also subject to stiff government regulation. They're not above the law, though you may think it.

And I know this may be hard to believe but no one controls the internet. It doesn't have a single owner.

[Benuty]

Corporations control everything.

Tell me what they don't control? They obviously got you on the commercial bandwagon, right?

It's not a conspiracy. Money buys votes, who has the money?It's been this way throughout history. Are you telling me a poor family has the same amount of power as a major corporation? If so, you are wicked naive. Do the people own the internet? Or do corporations? Who has control of private information and give that info to government entities? The list goes on, it's not some secret conspiracy.

I get it the tin hat thing is the cool 4chan style reply. Follow the leader. The leader says tin hat, then it must be a tin hat.

This is hardly some U.S vanity affair corporations pretty much run or manipulate countries from the get go.

[Santa Lucania]

Fuck that, I don't know about you guys but I really don't want to inherit any of medicos many problems.

[Casita]

If someone try's to act hip, cool, edgy, etc. by picking a unpopular then you are considered cool.


It's not a corporate fascist state.


Did you just read what you wrote?

We're a fucking superpower! Mexico doesn't have shit on us!

How does the US actually have less freedom?

Thanks for clearing some things up. Can you yell america is #1 one more time?

I've spent a great deal of time in both countries.

The main sense of freedom that should strike the hearts of every american is the freedom to start a business on the street or else were with very little regulation. If you are poor then you can sell orange juice on the street, unlike that little girl that got harrased for selling lemonade in the US. One has an abundance of opportunity. I've seen people start little shops out of their homes with a lot less licensing nonsense. Ofc, when one starts to make a lot of money, the people want their cut, like the US. But Unlike the US one doesn't get beaten down before they can even get started.

Up until recently there was complete freedom on the net, but now US and Mexico entered a deal where all info can be stored and sold etc a shared agreement. So, less freedom of privacy because of the US.

Small freedoms like what one can do to their homes, never seen house color codes etc. Once again way less crap to go through if one wants to add on etc.

Health care, it's free, one can go to the emergency room without being in debt for life. That's a huge freedom, freedom from medical debt.

Mexico has a world renoun university called UNAM, which is autonomous from the government. There's not one spec of land in the US that can be declared as autonomous with being taken by force if necessary, which happens in mexico too, but the University has held on to its autonomy.

[Pandeeria]

How does the US actually have less freedom?

Thanks for clearing some things up. Can you yell america is #1 one more time?

I've spent a great deal of time in both countries.

The main sense of freedom that should strike the hearts of every american is the freedom to start a business on the street or else were with very little regulation. If you are poor then you can sell orange juice on the street, unlike that little girl that got harrased for selling lemonade in the US. One has an abundance of opportunity. I've seen people start little shops out of their homes with a lot less licensing nonsense. Ofc, when one starts to make a lot of money, the people want their cut, like the US. But Unlike the US one doesn't get beaten down before they can even get started.

Up until recently there was complete freedom on the net, but now US and Mexico entered a deal where all info can be stored and sold etc a shared agreement. So, less freedom of privacy because of the US.

Small freedoms like what one can do to their homes, never seen house color codes etc. Once again way less crap to go through if one wants to add on etc.

Health care, it's free, one can go to the emergency room without being in debt for life. That's a huge freedom, freedom from medical debt.

Mexico has a world renoun university called UNAM, which is autonomous from the government. There's not one spec of land in the US that can be declared as autonomous with being taken by force if necessary, which happens in mexico to, but the University has held on to it's autonomy.

Well, a few organizations would like to disagree with you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Surprise surprise, the US is more economically free.

[Viritica]

Thanks for clearing some things up. Can you yell america is #1 one more time?

I've spent a great deal of time in both countries.

The main sense of freedom that should strike the hearts of every american is the freedom to start a business on the street or else were with very little regulation. If you are poor then you can sell orange juice on the street, unlike that little girl that got harrased for selling lemonade in the US. One has an abundance of opportunity. I've seen people start little shops out of their homes with a lot less licensing nonsense. Ofc, when one starts to make a lot of money, the people want their cut, like the US. But Unlike the US one doesn't get beaten down before they can even get started.

Up until recently there was complete freedom on the net, but now US and Mexico entered a deal where all info can be stored and sold etc a shared agreement. So, less freedom of privacy because of the US.

Small freedoms like what one can do to their homes, never seen house color codes etc. Once again way less crap to go through if one wants to add on etc.

Health care, it's free, one can go to the emergency room without being in debt for life. That's a huge freedom, freedom from medical debt.

Mexico has a world renoun university called UNAM, which is autonomous from the government. There's not one spec of land in the US that can be declared as autonomous with being taken by force if necessary, which happens in mexico to, but the University has held on to it's autonomy.

Well, a few organizations would like to disagree with you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World

but they're in the pockets of the coporaralations to!!!!!11!!111!!1one!!!

[Saruhan]

God no, what a terrible idea. Even the least developed state in the union is more developed than Mexico.

[Pandeeria]

Well, a few organizations would like to disagree with you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World

but they're in the pockets of the coporaralations to!!!!!11!!111!!1one!!!

I wouldn't be surprised if he/she said counter argued with that.

[Casita]

Thanks for clearing some things up. Can you yell america is #1 one more time?

I've spent a great deal of time in both countries.

The main sense of freedom that should strike the hearts of every american is the freedom to start a business on the street or else were with very little regulation. If you are poor then you can sell orange juice on the street, unlike that little girl that got harrased for selling lemonade in the US. One has an abundance of opportunity. I've seen people start little shops out of their homes with a lot less licensing nonsense. Ofc, when one starts to make a lot of money, the people want their cut, like the US. But Unlike the US one doesn't get beaten down before they can even get started.

Up until recently there was complete freedom on the net, but now US and Mexico entered a deal where all info can be stored and sold etc a shared agreement. So, less freedom of privacy because of the US.

Small freedoms like what one can do to their homes, never seen house color codes etc. Once again way less crap to go through if one wants to add on etc.

Health care, it's free, one can go to the emergency room without being in debt for life. That's a huge freedom, freedom from medical debt.

Mexico has a world renoun university called UNAM, which is autonomous from the government. There's not one spec of land in the US that can be declared as autonomous with being taken by force if necessary, which happens in mexico to, but the University has held on to it's autonomy.

Well, a few organizations would like to disagree with you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Surprise surprise, the US is more economically free.

Not necessarily US is rock bottom on fiscal freedom and the people don't even have free health care. But a high tax burden. And medical debt burden etc Wars cost a crap ton of money though. The small businesses example I provided is still valid.

The wiki link fails to recognize the two party rule of the US etc, which would put the US much lower. Democracy doesnt necessarily mean freedom either. the list is out of context and the data could be manipulated according to the parameters given. If we were to make our own parameters, we would see a different story. Essentially it's just a subjective and fun list.

[Casita]

To the tin hat guy.

I didn't say the net was controlled by one entity. The net is controlled by corporations, you know companies like yahoo, Google, cable companies etc there's a ton of corporations, which sell info to the government.
There are some providers that attempt to remain independent, but those providers have no where near the traffic.

Are you seriously this dim or uneducated, that you cant come up with a reply without a picture and repeating yourself incessantly? Or is it your net character? It's not like I'm quoting Roddy Piper from "They Live"