UK local/European elections (with poll)

[Westerheim]

So the local elections are coming up in the UK, along with the European elections. Who are people thinking of voting for? And what dyou think are the important issues? Also for general observations about the elections.

[Divair2]

Labour.

[Westerheim]

Labour.

Snap. #AlwaysRed

[Pandeeria]

Labour.

I heard that Labour Party turned really conservative.

[Divair2]

Labour.

I heard that Labour Party turned really conservative.

There's nobody else to vote for.

[Frazers]

Democratic Unionist Party

I'm not particularly keen on their handling of the attacks on PUL communities but my choices are extremely limited and I don't imagine Willy Frazer and Jamie Bryson will be going anywhere soon other than the loony bin.

[Westerheim]

Labour.

I heard that Labour Party turned really conservative.

It shifted to the right a fair way under Blair/Brown, but Miliband is sort of reversing that.

[Estado Paulista]

If I were British, I'd vote for the Liberal Democrats.

[Westerheim]

Democratic Unionist Party

I'm not particularly keen on their handling of the attacks on PUL communities but my choices are extremely limited and I don't imagine Willy Frazer and Jamie Bryson will be going anywhere soon other than the loony bin.

Why not NI21?

[Pandeeria]

I heard that Labour Party turned really conservative.

There's nobody else to vote for.

Good point.

I heard that Labour Party turned really conservative.

It shifted to the right a fair way under Blair/Brown, but Miliband is sort of reversing that.

I hope it gets back to left soon.

If I were British, I'd vote for the Liberal Democrats.

I do not know much about each of the parties so just based off their names and what little I do know, I'd pick Liberal Democrats.

[Ostroeuropa]

I heard that Labour Party turned really conservative.

It shifted to the right a fair way under Blair/Brown, but Miliband is sort of reversing that.

Allegedly. They kept their creepy authoritarian bent, and have started some social democracy rhetoric.

But yeh, i'm voting for them too because i'd rather take the ambiguous orwellian maybe social democrats maybe neoliberals over the ultra thatcherite and unambiguously orwellian.

[Westerheim]

It shifted to the right a fair way under Blair/Brown, but Miliband is sort of reversing that.

Allegedly. They kept their creepy authoritarian bent, and have started some social democracy rhetoric.

I'm not saying it's perfect - I'd much rather a return to the Labour Party under someone like Michael Foot or Clement Attlee, but there's no real alternative.

[Divair2]

Allegedly. They kept their creepy authoritarian bent, and have started some social democracy rhetoric.

I'm not saying it's perfect - I'd much rather a return to the Labour Party under someone like Michael Foot or Clement Attlee, but there's no real alternative.

Clement Attlee 2.0 please.

[United Kingdom of Kent]

First ever chance to vote and I'll probably go for either UKIP or the Tories.

[Ostroeuropa]

I'm not saying it's perfect - I'd much rather a return to the Labour Party under someone like Michael Foot or Clement Attlee, but there's no real alternative.

Clement Attlee 2.0 please.

Eh.
I'd prefer an unabashedly ultra-social liberal who would just keep the status quo on the economy or maybe shift it a little bit left in favor of slightly better income redistribution.
We're mostly ok in economics to be fair, other than sustainability (Which really needs some addressing.)

Personally, i'd go for a major state project employing people to do green energy shit as the big keynesian project, Federalize the union, abolish the lords and replace it with a jurist second house, then just go absolutely fucking crazy with legalizing things along libertarian social values.

The day we get a candidate who can openly and unironically say "Well, why shouldn't necrophilia be legal? It doesn't exactly hurt any non consenting sentient participants. You guys are just interfering in other peoples lives unnecessarily." is the day we know social liberalism has really taken hold.
I realize that sounds like an insane standard to most people, but others on this forum who take social liberty seriously will see exactly where i'm coming from.

[Westerheim]

I'm not saying it's perfect - I'd much rather a return to the Labour Party under someone like Michael Foot or Clement Attlee, but there's no real alternative.

Clement Attlee 2.0 please.

Only (decent, Thatcher doesn't count) PM with the balls to actually follow through with real reform and change.

[Divair2]

Clement Attlee 2.0 please.

Eh.
I'd prefer an unabashedly ultra-social liberal who would just keep the status quo on the economy or maybe shift it a little bit left in favor of slightly better income redistribution.
We're mostly ok in economics to be fair, other than sustainability (Which really needs some addressing.)

Personally, i'd go for a major state project employing people to do green energy shit as the big keynesian project, Federalize the union, abolish the lords and replace it with a jurist second house, then just go absolutely fucking crazy with legalizing things along libertarian social values.

That'd be fairly decent, yes. Though I want some kind of solution for the rail companies. They're in a shit state right now.

[Frazers]

Democratic Unionist Party

I'm not particularly keen on their handling of the attacks on PUL communities but my choices are extremely limited and I don't imagine Willy Frazer and Jamie Bryson will be going anywhere soon other than the loony bin.

Why not NI21?

I don't believe the Basil McCrea fan club is anything but style over substance and what little substance I see looks like nothing more than a more 'subtle' continuation of the current decline and attacks.

[Westerheim]

Eh.
I'd prefer an unabashedly ultra-social liberal who would just keep the status quo on the economy or maybe shift it a little bit left in favor of slightly better income redistribution.
We're mostly ok in economics to be fair, other than sustainability (Which really needs some addressing.)

Personally, i'd go for a major state project employing people to do green energy shit as the big keynesian project, Federalize the union, abolish the lords and replace it with a jurist second house, then just go absolutely fucking crazy with legalizing things along libertarian social values.

That'd be fairly decent, yes. Though I want some kind of solution for the rail companies. They're in a shit state right now.

Precisely, if there were one thing to be renationalised, make it the railways. It's painful seeing them being run so ineptly by private companies.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

I plan to vote Conservative, not because I want to but because I see no other options.

[Chestaan]

Is there no parties further left than Labour in Britain? I thought the CWI had a branch but I could be mistaken?

[Ostroeuropa]

That'd be fairly decent, yes. Though I want some kind of solution for the rail companies. They're in a shit state right now.

Precisely, if there were one thing to be renationalised, make it the railways. It's painful seeing them being run so ineptly by private companies.

There is no point in nationalization schemes. They cost too much, and the conservatives will inevitably sell them off to their buddies for pennies later on. Our best bet is to fund projects and raise the income of the poor through them.

[Westerheim]

Why not NI21?

I don't believe the Basil McCrea fan club is anything but style over substance and what little substance I see looks like nothing more than a more 'subtle' continuation of the current decline and attacks.

I'm judging a lot here sorry, but if you're voting for the DUP, I assume you're a unionist, and looking at your nation, you're a fairly progressive chap. To my mind NI21 are the only vaguely progressive-ish unionist party.

[Britanno]

I firmly support the Conservatives on almost everything, but the European elections are the ones where I'm tempted to vote UKIP. I'm eurosceptic, and I think that the EU is moving at an alarming rate to federalism, thus causing me to consider supporting UKIP in an attempt to halt this undemocratic advancement.

[Westerheim]

Is there no parties further left than Labour in Britain? I thought the CWI had a branch but I could be mistaken?

There's RESPECT and the Greens, but they've only got 1 MP apiece.