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What did you think of Season 7 overall?

Five stars: I loved this season and greatly enjoyed everything in it (stannis nod all the way)
1
7%
Four Stars: I really enjoyed this season, but have some issues/didnt like some things/though some stuff did not work that well
9
60%
Three Stars: I have a mixed view on this season, i liked and disliked an equal number of things.
2
13%
Two Stars: I really disliked this season, though i liked some things/thought some stuff worked very well
1
7%
One Star: I hated this season and everything involved in it (the amount of teeth grinding had no equal)
2
13%
 
Total votes : 15

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:31 am

I was surprised we did not have one of these already, and since ive seen the need for one mentioned around some of the other threads i decided to make one myself. So here you go:

This thread is dedicated to the Epic A Song of Ice and Fire Series of Medieval Fantasy Books by American Author George RR Martin, also known as the Destroyer of Dreams and happiness. This thread will also extend to the HBO adaptation of the series, Game of Thrones named so after the first book in the series, which is currently in the run of its forth season, having just wrapped up episode two on Sunday/Monday.

FRIENDLY REMINDER ABOUT SPOILERS: Now not everyone is up to date on the show, so i will ask, nay demand (as it is my right to do so by all the laws of westeros) that you spoiler any talk on the recent season (Season 5) and the current season (Season 6). For us book readers this also applies to anything that happens in the books around the same period in the story and in the future. As is the norm for threads like this. Address the spoiler of what you are talking about in regards to the show or books as such:

[Season 5 spoilers] [Season 6 episode 2 spoilers] [Book Spoilers Feast for Crows] etc etc to let people know whether or not they should read it.

UPDATED SPOILER INFO:
Spoiler stuff relating to Season 7 of the show, everything else is pretty much clear at this stage as we are past the books and its been a year since the last season.


So to start if off, what did you think of last episode?
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Postby Orla » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:39 am

Targaryen house is interesting, the Lannister house is interesting too.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:45 am

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Postby Spoder » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:49 am

I have to say, the Targaryens have the most legitimate claim to the throne.
So my loyalties lie with them, and with Baratheon/Stark after.

The Lannisters are corrupt, and overly ambitious and time and time again it's shown to be a problem. I hate every one of the Lannisters except for Tyrion, who is my favorite character.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:51 am

Orla wrote:Targaryen house is interesting, the Lannister house is interesting too.

Yeah they are all interesting in their own ways, especially some of the smaller houses like House Bolton of the North and house Tarly from the reach.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:56 am

Spoder wrote:I have to say, the Targaryens have the most legitimate claim to the throne.
So my loyalties lie with them, and with Baratheon/Stark after.

The Lannisters are corrupt, and overly ambitious and time and time again it's shown to be a problem. I hate every one of the Lannisters except for Tyrion, who is my favorite character.


The dragon is coming.

Yeah i despise the lannisters, except for Tyrion. And Jaime, he gets... better, as time goes on, though he is still a dickhead.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:58 am

Spoder wrote:I have to say, the Targaryens have the most legitimate claim to the throne.
So my loyalties lie with them, and with Baratheon/Stark after.

The Lannisters are corrupt, and overly ambitious and time and time again it's shown to be a problem. I hate every one of the Lannisters except for Tyrion, who is my favorite character.


The dragon is coming.

For the Iron Throne I prefer Daenaerys, Stannis and
Aegon
in that order.
Otherwise though, I consider, due to having been there first the Starks(or other LP's) have a right to independence before the Targaryen right to the Iron Throne.

Additionally, I'd say I'm an Irredentist for the North. I'd create a Greater Kingdom of the North, spanning the North, the Riverlands, the Vale, and the lands of the Night's Watch.

Also, what your opinions about
Jon Snow's Actions as Lord Commander of the Night's Watch
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:00 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Spoder wrote:I have to say, the Targaryens have the most legitimate claim to the throne.
So my loyalties lie with them, and with Baratheon/Stark after.

The Lannisters are corrupt, and overly ambitious and time and time again it's shown to be a problem. I hate every one of the Lannisters except for Tyrion, who is my favorite character.


The dragon is coming.

For the Iron Throne I prefer Daenaerys, Stannis and
Aegon
in that order.
Otherwise though, I consider, due to having been there first the Starks(or other LP's) have a right to independence before the Targaryen right to the Iron Throne.

Additionally, I'd say I'm an Irredentist for the North. I'd create a Greater Kingdom of the North, spanning the North, the Riverlands, the Vale, and the lands of the Night's Watch.

Also, what your opinions about
Jon Snow's Actions as Lord Commander of the Night's Watch
?

From what i can remember of them from the book, i thought was doing alright, he could lead, he had the right ideas, the only real problem was getting the watch to work with the wildlings in his plans. Because no offense to the watch, they need them if they wish to survive, and vice versa
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Postby Estormo » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:04 am

The best house is Lannister, particularly Cersei.
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Postby Spoder » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:06 am

Estormo wrote:The best house is Lannister, particularly Cersei.

So, we meet again, you twisted SoaB.

The worst house is Lannister.
In order of horridness:
1. Joffrey
2. Ceresi
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Postby Estormo » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:12 am

Spoder wrote:
Estormo wrote:The best house is Lannister, particularly Cersei.

So, we meet again, you twisted SoaB.

The worst house is Lannister.
In order of horridness:
1. Joffrey
2. Ceresi
3. Tywin
4. Jaime
5. Tyrion

Not quite, I bet it burns you inside knowing how Jaime offed Aerys. House Lannister rises above.
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Postby Estormo » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:14 am

Viserys was pretty badass but we know what happened to him, Daenerys is chaotic.
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Postby Spoder » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:15 am

Estormo wrote:Viserys was pretty badass but we know what happened to him, Daenerys is chaotic.

Daenarys is intelligent, but her agents are seriously misinformed.
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Postby Spoder » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:15 am

Estormo wrote:
Spoder wrote:So, we meet again, you twisted SoaB.

The worst house is Lannister.
In order of horridness:
1. Joffrey
2. Ceresi
3. Tywin
4. Jaime
5. Tyrion

Not quite, I bet it burns you inside knowing how Jaime offed Aerys. House Lannister rises above.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:17 am

Spoder wrote:
Estormo wrote:Not quite, I bet it burns you inside knowing how Jaime offed Aerys. House Lannister rises above.

Jaime never deserved a white cloak.

Aerys game him the white cloak to piss off his father, because everyone said that Tywin ruled the kingdoms and he did not whilst he was the hand, and Aerys being the paranoid freak that he was...
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Postby Estormo » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:19 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Spoder wrote:Jaime never deserved a white cloak.

Aerys game him the white cloak to piss off his father, because everyone said that Tywin ruled the kingdoms and he did not whilst he was the hand, and Aerys being the paranoid freak that he was...

And those fingernails, God forbid those wretched fingernails !
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Postby Spoder » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:19 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Spoder wrote:Jaime never deserved a white cloak.

Aerys game him the white cloak to piss off his father, because everyone said that Tywin ruled the kingdoms and he did not whilst he was the hand, and Aerys being the paranoid freak that he was...

Aerys went mad.
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Postby Estormo » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:25 am

Joffrey is dead, good night sweet prince.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:26 am

Spoder wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Aerys game him the white cloak to piss off his father, because everyone said that Tywin ruled the kingdoms and he did not whilst he was the hand, and Aerys being the paranoid freak that he was...

Aerys went mad.
But he made for a better king than Joffrey.

Eh.. i think they were of the same side of the coin. Joffrey was just as mad, and might end up being worse if he ruled for a long reign.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:27 am

Estormo wrote:
Joffrey is dead.
Good night sweet prince.

Man spoilers! FFS read the op.

Spoiler it now.
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Postby Spoder » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:29 am

Estormo wrote:
Joffrey is dead, good night sweet prince.

I know.
But that doesn't change the fact that Joffrey was worse than Aerys.
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Postby Chestaan » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:39 am

How deluded is Cersei? Her character drives me insane! She is such a poor ruler and she is no where near what her father was despite what she might think. I think we see her as she truly is when she is imprisoned by the High Septon, a weak fool who was no more fight to lead than Aerys.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:48 am

Chestaan wrote:
How deluded is Cersei? Her character drives me insane! She is such a poor ruler and she is no where near what her father was despite what she might think. I think we see her as she truly is when she is imprisoned by the High Septon, a weak fool who was no more fight to lead than Aerys.

Agreed, the only twos she can use to try and keep order (which are failing horribly) are fear and murder which do nothing but make people more hostile to her house and alienate many possible allies. She has no idea what she is doing.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:38 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was surprised we did not have one of these already, and since ive seen the need for one mentioned around some of the other threads i decided to make one myself. So here you go:

This thread is dedicated to the Epic A Song of Ice and Fire Series of Medieval Fantasy Books by American Author George RR Martin, also known as the Destroyer of Dreams and happiness. This thread will also extend to the HBO adaptation of the series, Game of Thrones named so after the first book in the series, which is currently in the run of its forth season, having just wrapped up episode two on Sunday/Monday.

FRIENDLY REMINDER ABOUT SPOILERS: Now not everyone is up to date on the show, so i will ask, nay demand (as it is my right to do so by all the laws of westeros and NS) that you spoiler any talk on the recent and future episodes of season 4, as well as season 3 as some people may not have finished it yet. For us book readers this also applies to anything that happens in the books around the same period in the story and in the future. As is the norm for threads like this. Address the spoiler of what you are talking about in regards to the show or books as such:

[Season 3 spoilers] [Season 4 episode 2 spoilers] [Book Spoilers Feast for Crows] etc etc to let people know whether or not they should read it.

Side Spoiler note: Now, i know some people may not have watched all of seasons 1 and 2, but since they have been out for a few years now, i will allow spoiler talk about events there. However, if enough people believe differently and ask me to, i will also ask for any talk on events in those seasons to be spoiler-ed as well.

So to start if off, what did you think of last episode?


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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:41 am

the two characters i dislike the most are Cersei Lannister and Margery Tyrell. Cersei is like a Margaret Thatcher on super steroids in terms of level of ruthlessness (the only character who is worse that I have ever seen is Claire Underwood from House of Cards)...

Margery is too manipulative and too much of a slut. I know people say she does what she does to survive or for a greater good etc but I don't like women who use their sexuality to get ahead, i just can't stand such characters...
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