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Postby Abacathea » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:40 pm

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Category: Commendation | Nominee: Hobbesistan | Proposed By: Abacathea



The Security Council;

Reminding the assembled members of this esteemed council of the purpose of a commendation resolution, namely "to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.";

Futher reminding this council, that it is our collective purposes as assembled members to recognize nations based on their contributions to our respective environments regardless of their alignments and creeds ie: raiderism, defenderism and so forth;

Believing the nation of Hobbesistan despite their relatively short existence, has made considerable contributions to the NationStates universe, spanning culture, governance and military aspects of the universe;

Highlighting the military organizations led by Hobbesistan, which, through their leadership, have seen a tremendous boost in activity, the modernization of tactics and strategies, and the creation of new technology, the military organizations that Hobbesistan has lead are: the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army (EPSA) and the Lazarene Liberation Army (LLA);

Applauding the numerous defensive operations that Hobbesistan has either participated in or lead, including: Union Soviet Socialist Republic, Darwin Allied Republics, RORMS and Christmas – a region that is currently under the protection of this council;

Further Applauding Hobbesistan's role in stopping the purge of Khora – a region that once boasted over 100 nations – and aware that through this act, the region of Khora was saved;

Acknowledging Hobbesistan's contributions to The East Pacific, where they have been a tireless member for several months, contributing to the region's legislature as a Magister, interpreting laws as an Arbiter, and improving the region's forum as an Administrator;

Applauding Hobbesistan's contributions to Lazarus, where they contributed to the revitalization of that region through their creation of Lazarus' forums, the revitalization and creation of the LLA, and assisting in the creation of the region's guiding documents;

Further Noting Hobbesistan's creation of both RadioNS and the Lazarene Stock Exchange, both of which providing a unique, enjoyable and unifying experience to nations and are arguably two significant and sizeable feats not likely to be repeated with ease, both of which have been done with the sole intention of furthering the experiences of nations across Lazarus and the NationStates universe as a whole;

Lastly highlighting the “approx” script, which was developed by the nation of Hobbesistan to aid military operations across the NationStates universe, and distributed widely and freely, further serving to enhance the experience of nations;

Believing, without a doubt, that the multitude of contributions made by Hobbesistan to culture both on a regional and international scale, military ops, the respective governments to which they serve and ultimately, to the regions and nations which have the pleasure of encountering this nation are worthy of being given as much consideration in the annals of this esteemed council as any other member currently enshrined within;

Hereby Commends Hobbesistan.

Co-authored by Ramaeus.



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Category: Commendation | Nominee: Hobbesistan | Proposed By: Abacathea



The Security Council;

Reminding the assembled members of this esteemed council of the purpose of a commendation resolution, namely "to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.";

Believing the nation of Hobbesistan has fulfilled the essential criteria of "outstanding contribution" long before now and dejected that such accomplishment has gone unnoticed by this body;

Highlighting the military organizations led by Hobbesistan, which, through their leadership, have seen a tremendous boost in activity, the modernization of tactics and strategies, and the creation of new technology, the military organizations that Hobbesistan has lead are: the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army (EPSA) and the Lazarene Liberation Army (LLA);

Applauding the numerous defensive operations that Hobbesistan has either participated in or lead, including: Union Soviet Socialist Republic, Darwin Allied Republics, RORMS and Christmas – a region that is currently under the protection of this council;

Observing that the scientists of Hobbesistan have created an approximation program – a program used by military organizations to optimize the proper time to enter a region – and aware that this “approximation program” is active within the intelligence unit known as “Aiden”, a program used to assist in defender operations;

Noting that Hobbesistan has achievements beyond their role as a defender;

Acknowledging Hobbesistan's contributions to The East Pacific, where they have been a tireless member for several months, contributing to the region's legislature as a Magister, interpreting laws as an Arbiter, and improving the region's forum as an Administrator;

Applauding Hobbesistan's contributions to Lazarus, where they contributed to the revitalization of that region through their creation of Lazarus' forums, the revitalization and creation of the LLA, and assisting in the creation of the region's guiding documents;

Further Noting Hobbesistan's creation of RadioNS and the Lazarene Stock Exchange, both designed to enhance and contribute to the unique culture of the NationStates realm and those active within it;

Further Applauding Hobbesistan's role in stopping the purge of Khora – a region that once boasted over 100 nations – and aware that through this act, the region of Khora was saved;

Believing without question that Hobbesistan surpasses that of the typical "NationStates defender" through their activity, their commitment and dedication, their provisions of tools to benefit the cause, and coupled with their contributions to the NationStates community taken as whole, should be acknowledged accordingly;

Hereby Commends Hobbesistan.

Co-authored by Ramaeus.


The Security Council;

Reminding the assembled members of this esteemed council of the purpose of a commendation resolution, namely "to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.";

Believing the nation of Hobbesistan has fulfilled the essential criteria of "outstanding contribution" long before now and dejected that such accomplishment has gone unnoticed by this body;

Highlighting the defensive works undertaken by Hobbesistan, surpassing that normally attributed to the typical defenderite nations, including membership in the UDL, the East Pacific Sovereign Army, and Lazarene Liberation Army;

Further highlighting that across the lifetime of their defensive work, Hobbesistan has participated in countless defensive and liberation operations including the regions of Union Soviet Socialist Republic, Darwin Allied Republics, RORMS and the region of Christmas, a region currently under the scope and protection of this very council due to the extensive damage done to it by raiding forces;

Observing Hobbesistan's hand in the creation of the "Approximation" program of which has been openly distributed for use by Hobbes and is currently active in the intelligence unit known as "Aiden" also created by Hobbes and provided to assist defensive operations on request;

Considering the defensive achievements of Hobbes to be impressive considering it's relatively short existence, yet, acknowledging these feats to be that of many an unsung defender hero;

Notes for the assembled members Hobbesistan's creation of both RadioNS and as of recent the Lazarene Stock Exchange, both designed to enhance and/or contribute to the unique culture of the NationStates realm and those active within it;

Believing without question that Hobbesistan surpasses that of the typical "NationStates defender" through their activity, their commitment and dedication, their provisions of tools to benefit the cause, and coupled with their contributions to the NationStates community taken as whole, should be acknowledged accordingly;

Hereby
Commends Hobbesistan


I believe Hobbes does deserve a Commendation, so I'm putting this forward, although I know it needs some tightening up in places. I've focused on what's common knowledge to me and many others as I believe that at it's core is what should be the focus. I've read over the debate from the last effort and truly one of the main things that seemed to have sank it was the way it was pushed through, so hopefully this wont be a problem here.



Update: 30/4/14

Changes made -
  • Tightened up the draft from draft 2
  • Removed some of the defender-centric language
  • Reorganized and structured, military, governance, culture
  • Removed the final line which appeared to be causing an issue for some :P
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G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby At Sea » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:45 pm

For how long has he been playing?

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Postby Ramaeus » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:49 pm

The Security Council;

Reminding the assembled members of this esteemed council of the purpose of a commendation resolution, namely "to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.";

Believing the nation of Hobbesistan has fulfilled the essential criteria of "outstanding contribution" long before now and dejected that such accomplishment has gone unnoticed by this body;


Highlighting the defensive works undertaken by Hobbesistan, surpassing that normally attributed to the typical defenderite nations, including membership in the UDL, the East Pacific Sovereign Army, and Lazarene Liberation Army;

Further highlighting that across the lifetime of their defensive work, Hobbesistan has participated in countless defensive and liberation operations including the region of Christmas, a region currently under the scope and protection of this very council due to the extensive damage done to it by raiding forces;
Okay, so he was a member of UDL, EPSA, and LLA and participated in one noteworthy military operation, and that is somehow commendable?

Observing Hobbesistan's hand in the creation of the "Approximation" program, which is currently active in the intelligence unit known as "Aiden" also created by Hobbes and provided to assist defensive operations on request;
Not bad.

Considering the defensive achievements of Hobbes to be impressive, yet, acknowledging these feats to be that of many an unsung defender hero;
Based solely on what you listed, I have a hard time believing this.

Notes for the assembled members Hobbesistan's creation of both RadioNS and as of recent the Lazarene Stock Exchange, both designed to enhance and/or contribute to the unique culture of the NationStates realm and those active within it;
Wouldn't Lazarus rather than Nationstates be a more accurate term here?

Believing without question that Hobbesistan surpasses that of the typical "NationStates defender" through their activity, their commitment and dedication, their provisions of tools to benefit the cause, and coupled with their contributions to the NationStates community taken as whole, should be acknowledged accordingly;

Hereby
Commends Hobbesistan
Nah, not yet at least. Have you actually talked with anyone in TEP or Laz? I'd start there.
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Postby Ramaeus » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:50 pm

At Sea wrote:For how long has he been playing?

He started in July 2013, and has accomplished quite a lot in that short span of time.
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:52 pm

Aye I reckon so, nah I need to touch base with a few people to strengthen this up. I just wanted to get the first draft out so I could start building on to the skeleton, this is far from the final product and I acknowledge that, but my writing process involves these "drafting" phases. :)
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Ramaeus » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:53 pm

Abacathea wrote:Aye I reckon so, nah I need to touch base with a few people to strengthen this up. I just wanted to get the first draft out so I could start building on to the skeleton, this is far from the final product and I acknowledge that, but my writing process involves these "drafting" phases. :)

Ah, I see. I understand completely. My writing process is similar.

If you want, I can help you with writing it.
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:55 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
Abacathea wrote:Aye I reckon so, nah I need to touch base with a few people to strengthen this up. I just wanted to get the first draft out so I could start building on to the skeleton, this is far from the final product and I acknowledge that, but my writing process involves these "drafting" phases. :)

Ah, I see. I understand completely. My writing process is similar.

If you want, I can help you with writing it.


I'll have draft two ready come the end of the week, if i'm struggling at that point, I'd be delighted to work with you once again Ram.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Ramaeus » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:56 pm

Abacathea wrote:
I'll have draft two ready come the end of the week, if i'm struggling at that point, I'd be delighted to work with you once again Ram.

Sounds good.
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:47 pm

I'm actually in full support of this proposal. Let's go commend Hobbes!!!

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Postby SkyDip » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:04 pm

Hobbes has always seemed like a nice character in my limited interactions with him/her. Don't think I would support this as of yet, primarily because:

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Postby At Sea » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:17 pm

SkyDip wrote:big scary picture


My sentiment as well.

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SkyDip wrote:big scary picture


My sentiment as well.

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Postby At Sea » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:22 pm

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Thank you for this. Maybe if the nominee works harder to battle that state of decay Defenders seems to be affected by, I'll reconsider :) It's been a while since we had any liberation attempt.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:40 pm

This commendation does seem a little very weak. Being a member of an array of organizations isn't commendable in itself and we all know that there are dozens of defenders that have far lengthier records. Creating a region update time approximation script also does not set him apart from other gameplayers (I know of at least 2 others on the defender side and I imagine at least that many exist on the invading side). Radio shows nor creating regional economies are new as well. I'm not saying that you have to be the first to do something in order to be commended for it, but its just not that special anymore. The last attempt to commend Hobbes was far better and it did not fare that well. I'm sure Hobbes is a good chap and he has the potential to be one of the greats, but he's just not there yet. We've only just gotten around to commending AD for Christ's sake and he's been a solidly committed player for like 8 years now.
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Benevolent Thomas wrote:-snip-

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:04 pm

Opposed. He's done a couple of things and made a neat tool for fendas to use by the sound of it. That by itself is not noteworthy.
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Postby Ramaeus » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:08 pm

The proposal is still only about his defender work. You're missing his exploits in Khora, his governmental work in TEP, his participation in the revival of Laz, and his admin work.
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Postby Abacathea » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:24 pm

Ramaeus wrote:The proposal is still only about his defender work. You're missing his exploits in Khora, his governmental work in TEP, his participation in the revival of Laz, and his admin work.


Havent actually updated it yet. RL's in the way. Will move to a second draft come the weekend.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Ramaeus » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:08 pm

Abacathea wrote:Havent actually updated it yet. RL's in the way. Will move to a second draft come the weekend.

You've added a little bit in. :P
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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:14 pm

Abacathea wrote:Highlighting the defensive works undertaken by Hobbesistan, surpassing that normally attributed to the typical defenderite nations, including membership in the UDL, the East Pacific Sovereign Army, and Lazarene Liberation Army;


EPSA and LLA have barely done anything noteworthy, outside a few mob up operations and detags. Why would we reward someone with a Commendation simply for being a member of such lackluster groups?
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Postby Tano » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:57 am

Evil Wolf wrote:
Abacathea wrote:Highlighting the defensive works undertaken by Hobbesistan, surpassing that normally attributed to the typical defenderite nations, including membership in the UDL, the East Pacific Sovereign Army, and Lazarene Liberation Army;


EPSA and LLA have barely done anything noteworthy, outside a few mob up operations and detags. Why would we reward someone with a Commendation simply for being a member of such lackluster groups?

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Postby Ramaeus » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:33 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:EPSA and LLA have barely done anything noteworthy, outside a few mob up operations and detags. Why would we reward someone with a Commendation simply for being a member of such lackluster groups?

It is unreasonable to expect those regional militaries to be exemplary given that the regions in question don't have the resources needed to become powerhouses. TEP, and in turn EPSA, is also not a dedicated military region, and thus doesn't view the use of military force as a prime arm of their foreign policy. And, if Aba finishes his next draft in a timely manner, we should see Hobbes' military record as only one example of his exemplary service in the regions he chooses to reside in.
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Postby Abacathea » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:45 pm

Second draft up, thank you to Ram for adding a lot more information and fleshing out some of the points for me.

Realistically, I aim to finish this project that I started so i'll put this to vote soon, but if anyone has anything significant they want to add prior to that point please do let me know.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
(Co-Author)
G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Venico » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:12 pm

Still against, still not enough done. Hope to see Hobbes do more in the future to earn his badge.
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:48 pm

At Sea wrote:For how long has he been playing?

Does it matter? One person can do a lot in a short span of time.

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