European Election Debate. (Includes Poll!)

[Socialist Tibet]

The upcoming European Elections are expected to be the most hotly contested ever. Some questions commonly being asked are:
When a new country joins why don't they just make the European Parliament Bigger?
Is the Party of European Socialists now Right Wing?
Is this election pointless?
Those this effect the average joe?

[Mike the Progressive]

Where's the poll?

[European Socialist Republic]

What's your opinion, OP?

[Dejanic]

I'm Pretty sure the party of European "Socialists" has always been pretty right wing. It's essentially full of Social Democratic third way parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_European_Left Is the Leftist party.

As for the election results? I expect big gains for the far right across the board.

[Socialist Tibet]

The poll's now up!

[Mike the Progressive]

The poll's now up!

Yeah, it better be.I freaking love polls.

Anyway, EPP!

[Socialist Tibet]

What's your opinion, OP?

I'd go for the EUL-NGL or the Greens-EFA. (I hate the Irish Green Party though, they are right wing!)

[Dejanic]

EUL-NGL.

[Socialist Tibet]

What's your opinion, OP?

I'd go for the EUL-NGL or the Greens-EFA. (I hate the Irish Green Party though, they are right wing!)

I voted for the EUL-NGL in the poll.

[Angleter]

The upcoming European Elections are expected to be the most hotly contested ever. Some questions commonly being asked are:
When a new country joins why don't they just make the European Parliament Bigger?

Dear God, please don't tell me somebody's actually proposing making the damn thing bigger.

Is the Party of European Socialists now Right Wing?

Depends where you are. If, for whatever reason, your national PES affiliate is right-wing, then I suppose it is, because 99% of people will be voting/not voting for Labour/the SPD/the PD/etc. rather than for the PES.

Is this election pointless?

It's a sham and a charade more than anything else. Not that we shouldn't vote, though.

Those this effect the average joe?

Unfortunately, yes.

[Britanno]

I'll be voting for UKIP in the European elections simply because of my eurosceptic beliefs, not because, I agree with them.

[Greater-London]

I'll be voting for UKIP in the European elections simply because of my eurosceptic beliefs, not because, I agree with them.

Well then you do agree with them .... at least on the European issue which is sort of what their parties all about.

If your looking for a non UKIP anti EU party vote for WDAR who are a Eurosceptic party without the baggage of UKIP. Or if your of the political left try out NO 2 EU

[Divair2]

I'll be voting for PES.

[European Socialist Republic]

Probably the PEL/GUE-NGL (whatever they call themselves, I'm always confusing EP political groups with European political parties).

There's a small chance I might vote for PES, but I don't think so.

[Socialist Tibet]

Seems to be a great diverse political opinions here.

[Socialist Tibet]

GO EU-NGL!

[The Scientific States]

I'm Pretty sure the party of European "Socialists" has always been pretty right wing. It's essentially full of Social Democratic third way parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_European_Left Is the Leftist party.

As for the election results? I expect big gains for the far right across the board.

Third Way=/=Right Wing.

Third way is mostly centrist, with some left leanings, while social democracy is centre left. Why you would consider social democrats and third way adherents to be right wing, I have no clue.

Anyways, I support the ALDE.

[The Scientific States]

GO EU-NGL!

Why?

[Silent Majority]

EUL-NGL seem to be the closet to me politically.

[Britannic Realms]

I still can't bring myself to vote Labour, so I'll go for the Tories and hope they don't do something stupid.

[Dejanic]

I'm Pretty sure the party of European "Socialists" has always been pretty right wing. It's essentially full of Social Democratic third way parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_European_Left Is the Leftist party.

As for the election results? I expect big gains for the far right across the board.

Third Way=/=Right Wing.

Third way is mostly centrist, with some left leanings, while social democracy is centre left. Why you would consider social democrats and third way adherents to be right wing, I have no clue.

Anyways, I support the ALDE.

There is nothing inherently left wing about supporting a few social programs and raising taxes on the rich, though the funny thing is, Social Democrats can't even do that correctly these days, they are neo-Liberals through and through. I class Social Democrats as right wing because that's what they are. Social Democrats are often third way as they try to reconcile many aspects of the left and the right, I just feel that now a days the right wing aspects outnumber the left wing aspects. Whilst there are certain Social Democrats who lean slightly to the left (the late Tony Benn a good example), the vast majority are centre-right/third way.

[Divair2]

Third Way=/=Right Wing.

Third way is mostly centrist, with some left leanings, while social democracy is centre left. Why you would consider social democrats and third way adherents to be right wing, I have no clue.

Anyways, I support the ALDE.

There is nothing inherently left wing about supporting a few social programs and raising taxes on the rich, though the funny thing is, Social Democrats can't even do that correctly these days, they are neo-Liberals through and through. I class Social Democrats as right wing because that's what they are. Social Democrats are often third way as they try to reconcile many aspects of the left and the right, I just feel that now a days the right wing aspects outnumber the left wing aspects. Whilst there are certain Social Democrats who lean slightly to the left (the late Tony Benn a good example), the vast majority are centre-right/third way.

>Tony Benn
>slightly left

wat

[The Scientific States]

I still can't bring myself to vote Labour, so I'll go for the Tories and hope they don't do something stupid.

This is for the European election, not the UK election.

Although, if you can't vote labour in the UK election, vote Lib Dem.

[The Scientific States]

Third Way=/=Right Wing.

Third way is mostly centrist, with some left leanings, while social democracy is centre left. Why you would consider social democrats and third way adherents to be right wing, I have no clue.

Anyways, I support the ALDE.

There is nothing inherently left wing about supporting a few social programs and raising taxes on the rich, though the funny thing is, Social Democrats can't even do that correctly these days, they are neo-Liberals through and through. I class Social Democrats as right wing because that's what they are. Social Democrats are often third way as they try to reconcile many aspects of the left and the right, I just feel that now a days the right wing aspects outnumber the left wing aspects. Whilst there are certain Social Democrats who lean slightly to the left (the late Tony Benn a good example), the vast majority are centre-right/third way.

You seem to lack understanding of both the left right spectrum, and social democratic poltiicans.

Social democracy supports more than a few social programs, and more than a few regulations, even the third way.

Tony Benn, slightly left? Read about him, please. He was a socialist.

[Dejanic]

There is nothing inherently left wing about supporting a few social programs and raising taxes on the rich, though the funny thing is, Social Democrats can't even do that correctly these days, they are neo-Liberals through and through. I class Social Democrats as right wing because that's what they are. Social Democrats are often third way as they try to reconcile many aspects of the left and the right, I just feel that now a days the right wing aspects outnumber the left wing aspects. Whilst there are certain Social Democrats who lean slightly to the left (the late Tony Benn a good example), the vast majority are centre-right/third way.

>Tony Benn
>slightly left

wat

The policies he proposed and his actions in general were of a typical old school Centre-Left Social Democrat. I think the view of him as some kind of ultra-Leftist show how far the political spectrum has swung to the right