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Postby YoriZ » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:04 am

[quote]The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING that the region of Anarchy has existed as a community in NationStates for over 10 years,

NOTING the region's historic neutrality in the war between invaders and defenders, its acceptance of nations of all backgrounds, and its laudable mission to encourage political debate and dialogue amongst its members,

LAMENTING that Anarchy was invaded on February 3, 2014 by The Black Riders, a group notorious for region destruction, tag raiding and other nefarious behavior for which it was condemned twice by this Council,

DISMAYED that the invasion has turned to a long-term occupation, during which natives who dared protest against the invasion had been ejected and all dissent had been suppressed,

AWARE that it is a matter of time before The Black Riders' WA Delegate gains sufficient influence to lock-down the region, and painfully aware that they could unleash destruction without interference from defenders, natives, and the world at large,

CONSCIOUS that natives have no hope to reclaim their region once that happens,

NOTING that Security Council intervention is the only course of action that could save Anarchy from The Black Riders' rapacious assault,

Hereby,

Liberates Anarchy.

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Description: The Security Council,

Recognising that the region of Anarchy has been home to a regional community for over 10 years - a community so old, it predated the establishment of Regional Founders. The olderst record of a founder to be found is June 25th of 2009(Illichia). The oldest record of Anarchy to be found is May 28th of 2003. Over that time period, the region has been the home of an average of 97 freedom loving nations.

Recognising the arnarchist tenets of the region and the fact that WA Delegates of Anarchy have never used banning and ejecting as a way of managing the region as this is against the fundamental tenets of anarchism and if non-political griefers want to voluntarily expose themselves to pro-anarchist propaganda, then they were more than welcome in Anarchy.

From Februari 3rd 2014, The Black Riders successfully invaded Anarchy. Since then invader delegate Duck-Boss tagged the region and does what invader delegats do (suppressing messages by natives, bajecting possible threats, banjecting natives). The occupation of the region drew attention from across the NationStates community.

Recognising that natives of Anarchy understand the right of raiders to invade regions.

Recognising that the invasion switched into a long term occupation.

Recoginising that the risk is immanent that The Black Riders will try to password protect the region in order to lock it down and to refound it.

Recognising that Anarchy is by definition a heterarchical and open minded region, where all nations are welcome and free to participate in discussions on the RMB.

Rocognising that if Anarchy would be refounded by The Black Riders, it would become a dormant colony of The Black Riders without a single comment on the Regional Message Board and a static standard The Black Riders World Factbook Entru.

Recognising the fact The World Assembly does not whish to interfere in the internal affairs of regions, World Assembly intervention is the only course of action left that will allow the region of Anarchy to maintain it's heterarchical and open minded character.

Therefore, the World Assembly hereby forbids:
1. Anarchy from being password-protected;
2. Nations to be banned or ejected from Anarchy;
3. Messages to be suppressed on the Regional Message Board of Anarchy.
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Postby Unibot III » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:07 am

It'll need a bit of work, but I support this endeavor.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:09 am

Hi, I'm one of the people that is occupying Anarchy at the moment.

You need to fix 'Recognising', 'Februari', etc. Like Unibot said, it needs a bit of work.

And obviously I'm against this. It's not even necessary to liberate, since we're not looking for a refound. :p
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Postby Communist Eraser » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:18 am

In before "a liberation will make this place be a warzone".

Anarchy's name, status and history means it is always going to be a warzone. That's actually how it has been already. So might as well Lib it.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:22 am

Communist Eraser wrote:In before "a liberation will make this place be a warzone".

Anarchy's name, status and history means it is always going to be a warzone. That's actually how it has been already. So might as well Lib it.


You made up an argument out of thin air, argued against it, and then used that to support liberation.
Absolutely amazing. Well done. :bow:

Not even sarcasm. I'm impressed.
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Postby Port blood » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:35 am

R3 violation(no proper clause)

Therefore, the World Assembly hereby forbids:
1. Anarchy from being password-protected;


And stepping outside the WAs powers

2. Nations to be banned or ejected from Anarchy;
3. Messages to be suppressed on the Regional Message Board of Anarchy.


also (possible) R4

Recognising that the region of Anarchy has been home to a regional community for over 10 years - a community so old, it predated the establishment of Regional Founders. The olderst record of a founder to be found is June 25th of 2009(Illichia). The oldest record of Anarchy to be found is May 28th of 2003. Over that time period, the region has been the home of an average of 97 freedom loving nations.


small typo: oldest

Recoginising that the risk is immanent that The Black Riders will try to password protect the region in order to lock it down and to refound it.


Not 100% sure,but re-found might be a illegal term
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Postby Goddess Relief Office » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:26 am

Supported in principle but this piece needs major rewriting...
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YoriZ wrote:Recognising that the region of Anarchy has been home to a regional community for over 10 years -a community so old, it predated the establishment of Regional Founders. The olderst record of a founder to be found is June 25th of 2009(Illichia).The oldest record of Anarchy to be found is May 28th of 2003. Over that time period, the region has been the home of an average of 97 freedom loving nations.

There's no need to mention how Anarchy's original founding pre-dates regional founders in the proposal. Yes, some of us are aware that Anarchy was one of the original founderless regions. But the fact is Anarchy have been re-founded. At the point of refounding, it ceased to have special status on NationStates. It can no longer claim to be rare, even though it can claim to be old. Your clause needs major re-writing to make it factually correct:

    RECOGNIZING that the of region Anarchy had existed as a community in NationStates for over 10 years,


YoriZ wrote:Recognising the arnarchist tenets of the region and the fact that WA Delegates of Anarchy have never used banning and ejecting as a way of managing the region as this is against the fundamental tenets of anarchism and if non-political griefers want to voluntarily expose themselves to pro-anarchist propaganda, then they were more than welcome in Anarchy.

Anarchy's political tenets and beliefs has no bearing on the proposal. How does being "anarchic" make the region any more deserving to be saved? Who cares if you like anarchy? This needs to be rephrased to say something more relevant...like:

    NOTING the region's historic neutrality in the war between invaders and defenders, its acceptance of nations of all stripes and backgrounds, and its laudable mission to encourage political dialogue and debate amongst its members,


YoriZ wrote:From Februari 3rd 2014, The Black Riders successfully invaded Anarchy. Since then invader delegate Duck-Boss tagged the region and does what invader delegats do (suppressing messages by natives, bajecting possible threats, banjecting natives). The occupation of the region drew attention from across the NationStates community.

This is not even a clause. It looks like a blog post. I urge you to use this instead:

    LAMENTING that Anarchy was invaded on February 3, 2014 by The Black Riders, a group notorious for region destruction, tag raiding and other dastardly behavior for which it was condemned twice by this Security Council,


YoriZ wrote:Recognising that natives of Anarchy understand the right of raiders to invade regions.

Believe me, you don't want this in. Saying they have a right to invade you indirectly contradicts the fact that you are asking for help now.


YoriZ wrote:Recognising that the invasion switched into a long term occupation.

Better to re-write that as:
    DISMAYED that the invasion has turned to a long-term occupation, during which natives who dared protest against the invasion had been ejected and all logical dissent had been suppressed,


YoriZ wrote:Recoginising that the risk is immanent that The Black Riders [u]will [/u]try to password protect the region in order to lock it down and to refound it.

While I understand what you are trying to say, this sentence is just "what you think will happen" and cannot be substantiated. You don't know that TBR will try to password protect the region or that they will try to refound it. You need to rewrite the clause to cover that possibility without saying outright that it "will" happen:

    AWARE that it is a matter of time before The Black Riders gains sufficient influence to lock-down the region, when upon it could unleash destruction without interference from defenders, natives, and the world at large,


YoriZ wrote:Recognising that Anarchy is by definition a heterarchical and open minded region, where all nations are welcome and free to participate in discussions on the RMB.

I've already added this to one of the clauses I've suggested above.


YoriZ wrote:Rocognising that if Anarchy would be refounded by The Black Riders, it would become a dormant colony of The Black Riders without a single comment on the Regional Message Board and a static standard The Black Riders World Factbook Entru.

Recognising the fact The World Assembly does not whish to interfere in the internal affairs of regions, World Assembly intervention is the only course of action left that will allow the region of Anarchy to maintain it's heterarchical and open minded character.


CONSCIOUS that natives have no hope to reclaim their region once that happens, and

NOTING that Security Council intervention is the only course of action that could save Anarchy from The Black Riders' ongoing aggression,



YoriZ wrote:Therefore, the World Assembly hereby forbids:
1. Anarchy from being password-protected;
2. Nations to be banned or ejected from Anarchy;
3. Messages to be suppressed on the Regional Message Board of Anarchy.

As someone already pointed out in one of the posts above, 2 and 3 are illegal for meta-gaming. The only thing you can keep is 1.

    Hereby,

    Liberates Anarchy and resolves to stand in solidarity with natives in the name of freedom.



    The Security Council,

    RECOGNIZING that the region of Anarchy had existed as a community in NationStates for over 10 years,

    NOTING the region's historic neutrality in the war between invaders and defenders, its acceptance of nations of all stripes and backgrounds, and its laudable mission to encourage political debate and dialogue amongst its members,

    LAMENTING that Anarchy was invaded on February 3, 2014 by The Black Riders, a group notorious for region destruction, tag raiding and other dastardly behavior for which it was condemned twice by this Council,

    DISMAYED that the invasion has turned to a long-term occupation, during which natives who dared protest against the invasion had been ejected and all logical dissent had been suppressed,

    AWARE that it is a matter of time before The Black Riders gains sufficient influence to lock-down the region, upon which it could unleash destruction without interference from defenders, natives, and the world at large,

    CONSCIOUS that natives have no hope to reclaim their region once that happens, and

    NOTING that Security Council intervention is the only course of action that could save Anarchy from The Black Riders' ongoing aggression,

    Hereby,

    Liberates Anarchy and resolves to stand in solidarity with natives in the name of freedom.

Ugh.....

There might still be errors since it's late and I'm sleepy, but I think it looks better now.
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Postby SkyDip » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:29 am

FTR: metagaming isn't an SC rule. GRO's edit also reads as an R2 violation to me insofar as the last line goes beyond the operative clause.
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Postby YoriZ » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:54 pm

So I think we have a qualitative and legal proposal for the liberation of Anarchy at the moment.
Following the guidelines, a liberation resolution is appropriate.
Shall I go on with it?
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Postby Port blood » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:57 pm

...Did you even proofread his adjustments?
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Postby YoriZ » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:02 pm

Did you?
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Postby Port blood » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:11 pm

Yes,and i already noticed a small mistake in the second "NOTING" with a misplaced ` in the black riders´

You should take time to respond to the red ink
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Postby Ramaeus » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:24 pm

RECOGNIZING that the region of Anarchy had has existed as a community in NationStates for over 10 years,
Has, not had. It's still there, no?

NOTING the region's historic neutrality in the war between invaders and defenders, its acceptance of nations of all stripes andbackgrounds, and its laudable mission to encourage political debate and dialogue amongst its members,
Stripes is an odd phrase to use, especially when the word "backgrounds" more than suffices.

LAMENTING that Anarchy was invaded on February 3, 2014 by The Black Riders, a group notorious for region destruction, tag raiding and other dastardly behavior for which it was condemned twice by this Council,
Dastardly (even though it doesn't mean this) calls to mind rogue-like behavior, rather than horrible activities. Perhaps nefarious would work better.

DISMAYED that the invasion has turned to a long-term occupation, during which natives who dared protest against the invasion had been ejected and all logical dissent had been suppressed,
Logical doesn't seem necessary there.

AWARE that it is a matter of time before The Black Riders gains sufficient influence to lock-down the region, upon which and painfully aware that it they could unleash destruction without interference from defenders, natives, and the world at large,
Added "and painfully aware that" I think that it makes your argument a little better.

CONSCIOUS that natives have no hope to reclaim their region once that happens, and


NOTING that Security Council intervention is the only course of action that could save Anarchy from The Black Riders' ongoing aggression rapacious assault,


Hereby,

Liberates Anarchy and resolves to stand in solidarity with natives in the name of freedom.

My thoughts, suggestions, and corrections on your current draft.
EDIT: Formatting is a bit weird, but that's easily fixable.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:29 pm

YoriZ wrote:NOTING the region's historic neutrality in the war between invaders and defenders, its acceptance of nations of all stripes and backgrounds, and its laudable mission to encourage political debate and dialogue amongst its members,

This isn't a war between invaders and defenders. This is an extermination of natives (while defenders sometimes get in the way) across all of nationstates. You don't get to be neutral if we can get into your region.

YoriZ wrote:NOTING that Security Council intervention is the only course of action that could save Anarchy from The Black Riders' ongoing aggression,

Had the natives taken appropriate security precautions they would have been fine. They didn't, they don't deserve the Liberation.
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Postby Ake » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:23 pm

I left Anarchy right before the invasion, I support this.

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Ake wrote:I left Anarchy right before the invasion, I support this.


Same here, I had to get a new nation since TBR kept banjecting my puppets.
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Mallorea and Riva wrote:
YoriZ wrote:NOTING the region's historic neutrality in the war between invaders and defenders, its acceptance of nations of all stripes and backgrounds, and its laudable mission to encourage political debate and dialogue amongst its members,

This isn't a war between invaders and defenders. This is an extermination of natives (while defenders sometimes get in the way) across all of nationstates. You don't get to be neutral if we can get into your region.

YoriZ wrote:NOTING that Security Council intervention is the only course of action that could save Anarchy from The Black Riders' ongoing aggression,

Had the natives taken appropriate security precautions they would have been fine. They didn't, they don't deserve the Liberation.


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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:00 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:This isn't a war between invaders and defenders. This is an extermination of natives (while defenders sometimes get in the way) across all of nationstates. You don't get to be neutral if we can get into your region.


Had the natives taken appropriate security precautions they would have been fine. They didn't, they don't deserve the Liberation.


Says the raider.

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Postby SkyDip » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:20 pm

Since GRO sent me a TG, I'll clarify my earlier post:
Hereby,

Liberates Anarchy and resolves to stand in solidarity with natives in the name of freedom.

The above goes beyond the operative, IMO, and would be a violation of R3, not R2. That was my mistake.
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Postby Port blood » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:25 am

Lavan Tiri wrote:Says the raider.


Says the biased defender who doesn't know Mall is a respected and experienced raider,which makes him a expert on the subject
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Postby Punk Daddy » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:26 am

How will this Liberation help anarchy? I don't see a password on the region. Is there a fear that the region will be passworded at some point?
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Postby Goose Poo » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:24 am

Punk Daddy wrote:How will this Liberation help anarchy? I don't see a password on the region. Is there a fear that the region will be passworded at some point?

I've seen rumblings on the RMB about refounding. It seems to me that a pre-emptive Liberation is a good idea.

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Postby Charax » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:22 am

Opposed. If this passes, the poor natives of Anarchy will be forced to live in a de facto warzone.

Think of the natives! :(
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Postby Vuuhn » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:28 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Lavan Tiri wrote:
Says the raider.

Nothing I said above is made incorrect simply because I am a raider.


It's not incorrect, but Lavan hates all raiders. Don't take it personally.
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Postby YoriZ » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:21 am

Charax wrote:Opposed. If this passes, the poor natives of Anarchy will be forced to live in a de facto warzone.

Think of the natives! :(


As part of the occupying force (you are known in Anarchy as Peonarmetiileyno) your point of view as concerned with the natives is not credible.
De facto we already live in a warzone, liberation will just make our region less of a target by malicious organisations as the twice condemned TBR, so it will end up safer. Most of the natives in Anarchy don't mind to be occupied, the only thing we rightfully fear is a lock-down by TBR.
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