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Are Africans entitled to live in Europe?

Postby Obnoxious Teenagers » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:16 am

Think about it!!! Europe mercilessly exploited Africa for thousands of years!! Their the sole reason poverty exists in that country!!! Africans come to Europe in search of a better of life because they can't find that in Africa, and it's all Europe's fault!!! I think they ARE entitled to live in Europe because it's our fault they can't have a decent living in Africa!!! What do you think??? :)
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Postby Shnercropolis » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:17 am

Your name says it all.
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Postby Trezchoix » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:19 am

Obnoxious Teenagers wrote:Think about it!!! Europe mercilessly exploited Africa for thousands of years!! Their the sole reason poverty exists in that country!!! Africans come to Europe in search of a better of life because they can't find that in Africa, and it's all Europe's fault!!! I think they ARE entitled to live in Europe because it's our fault they can't have a decent living in Africa!!! What do you think??? :)



No no one is entitled to anywhere that was hundreds of years ago to be successful in a society you must learn to work to achieve better thing not stuff given to you
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Postby Gallup » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:19 am

Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:20 am

Everyone is entitled to live in any nation as far as i'm concerned.
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:20 am

In before the OP's other troll account: Right-wing Teenagers.
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Postby Margno » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:20 am

Africa's a continent, for one thing.
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Postby Trezchoix » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:20 am

Gallup wrote:Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.


RIght to freedom of speech because you disagree with the post doesn't mean they should ban them. even though it is kinda of a useless subject...
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Postby Need a Name » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:21 am

First things first, I can't take you seriously... at all. Too many exclamation points and question marks per sentence. And perhaps use a different nation to start discussions...
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Postby Greater-London » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:22 am

Quick history lesson. The colonization and exploitation of Africa by European people a period of about 350 years not thosunds. Also colonization of Africa was not a pan European policy. Regardless poverty in Africa is for a multitude of different reasons, colonialism is only one of them and I don't even think its the main issue. Should people from African and indeed all over the world be allowed to come and settle in Europe? Of course they should but their should be no preferential treatment AND its at the discretion of European states individually.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:22 am

Gallup wrote:Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.


Frisbeeteria wrote:Bottom line: we do have a tendency to bend over backwards regarding banning trolls, because Max has told us that he wants to keep the site lively. That means accommodating people with abhorrent or unpopular ideas from time to time. In almost every one of your 12 cited cases, the Hivemind was largely in agreement with the players about the likelihood of those players ever being actual contributors to the site. We could have banned them on day 1, but instead, we let them run through the same gamut of warnings, short term, and long term bans that we hand out to every other rulebreaker. We get slammed for being inconsistent in our rulings no matter how we rule, so I'd rather we go with "too lenient" than "too overbearing".
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Postby Gallup » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:24 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Gallup wrote:Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.


Frisbeeteria wrote:Bottom line: we do have a tendency to bend over backwards regarding banning trolls, because Max has told us that he wants to keep the site lively. That means accommodating people with abhorrent or unpopular ideas from time to time. In almost every one of your 12 cited cases, the Hivemind was largely in agreement with the players about the likelihood of those players ever being actual contributors to the site. We could have banned them on day 1, but instead, we let them run through the same gamut of warnings, short term, and long term bans that we hand out to every other rulebreaker. We get slammed for being inconsistent in our rulings no matter how we rule, so I'd rather we go with "too lenient" than "too overbearing".

Makes sense.
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:24 am

Not entitled, no, but generally should be allowed to come. Anyway, OP is obviously designed to enrage all right wingers and anti-immigration people.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:24 am

Africans are entitled to live on any continent they want, same as everyone else.
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Gallup wrote:Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.


RIght to freedom of speech because you disagree with the post doesn't mean they should ban them. even though it is kinda of a useless subject...

You don't have a right to free speech on this website.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:25 am

Yes, they are, if they can afford it. Just as Europeans are entitled to live in Africa and become citizens in an African country.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:25 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Gallup wrote:Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.


Frisbeeteria wrote:Bottom line: we do have a tendency to bend over backwards regarding banning trolls, because Max has told us that he wants to keep the site lively. That means accommodating people with abhorrent or unpopular ideas from time to time. In almost every one of your 12 cited cases, the Hivemind was largely in agreement with the players about the likelihood of those players ever being actual contributors to the site. We could have banned them on day 1, but instead, we let them run through the same gamut of warnings, short term, and long term bans that we hand out to every other rulebreaker. We get slammed for being inconsistent in our rulings no matter how we rule, so I'd rather we go with "too lenient" than "too overbearing".


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Though I am watching to make sure the OP intends a discussion and not just a provocation.
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Postby Gallup » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:27 am

Ifreann wrote:Africans are entitled to live on any continent they want, same as everyone else.
Trezchoix wrote:
RIght to freedom of speech because you disagree with the post doesn't mean they should ban them. even though it is kinda of a useless subject...

You don't have a right to free speech on this website.

But muh constitutions.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:28 am

Priory Academy USSR wrote:Not entitled, no, but generally should be allowed to come. Anyway, OP is obviously designed to enrage all right wingers and anti-immigration people.

A nation called "Obnoxious Teenagers" is obviously designed to irritate everyone.
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Postby Alimprad » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:31 am

yeah, of course it's all Europe's fualt, not like they have droughts or desertification or anything like that over there. Even if it was Europe's fault, it was ages ago, why punish europeans now for something people did hundreds of years ago? at least get a basic understand of history before bother to clog up the forum :palm:
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:31 am

Baltenstein wrote:In before the OP's other troll account: Right-wing Teenagers.

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Postby Hellandi » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:31 am

Europe for Europeans. Africa for Africans. Asia for Asians.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:31 am

Africa is poor because colonial authorities are no longer present to prevent ethnic conflicts between groups that existed relatively peacefully prior to their arrival, and upon attempting colonization, were exploited until they were at each other's throats. Also, drawing up borders to put up very different and very antagonistic groups in the same nation, Africa not having a population density high enough to support natural industrialization, among other reasons. Africans aren't exactly "entitled" to live in Europe, but they should be able to do so, if they can afford it.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:33 am

If they can afford to; sure, they can emigrate. Thing is not many Africans can afford the airfare/boat ticket.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:34 am

Hellandi wrote:Europe for Europeans. Africa for Africans. Asia for Asians.


Sounds boring.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:34 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Gallup wrote:Entitled? I mean, if they want to, and can afford to, sure.

Also, why aren't people like OP banned? They hardly contribute anything productive.


Frisbeeteria wrote:Bottom line: we do have a tendency to bend over backwards regarding banning trolls, because Max has told us that he wants to keep the site lively. That means accommodating people with abhorrent or unpopular ideas from time to time. In almost every one of your 12 cited cases, the Hivemind was largely in agreement with the players about the likelihood of those players ever being actual contributors to the site. We could have banned them on day 1, but instead, we let them run through the same gamut of warnings, short term, and long term bans that we hand out to every other rulebreaker. We get slammed for being inconsistent in our rulings no matter how we rule, so I'd rather we go with "too lenient" than "too overbearing".

Shakespeare put it best when he had King Henry the Fift say, "... when lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler gamester is the soonest winner."
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