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The Eternal Knights: A New Power Rising

Postby Nephmir » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:05 pm

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The Eternal Knights
Independent, Large, National Sovereigntist, Imperialist, Neutral, Monarchist, and Serious.


+Engage in 10 different mission types in one of 16 military divisions
+Easy, quick, and simple one-on-one training from an experienced commander
+Rise up the ranks to a Marshall or a Knight
+Feel the thrill of striking some of the most powerful organizations in the world
+Earn Military Awards for performance on the battlefield or breaking regional records
+Respect and fear from the regions of the world

Unlock your potential, and become a true warrior, an Eternal Knight, the masters of Eternity.

We are a relatively new region, celebrating 2 successful months of military victories!
We are known as the new Defenders. We are Raiders that fight Raiders; let the downfall of The Black Riders begin!
Our military is designed to fight both Raiders and Defenders; it's not easy being enemies of both sides! Our goal is to cleanse the world of Raiders and Defenders. But before there can be peace, there must be war, and we will be the ones to get our hands dirty and start that war.
We are on the dawn of a new era. Don't let the old organizations deceive you; they have gone corrupt and imperialistic, vying for power. They are the ones who have caused all this destruction, and they will pay for it.


Military Divisions
The 16 regional military divisions, each with its own purpose and functions.
Military Structure
Behind the scenes: how it all works.
Military Awards
Regional Military Awards.


Foreign Policy
How we approach other regions.
Diplomacy
Friends and Foes of The Eternal Knights.
Embassy/Alliance Policy
Forging an alliance between our regions.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:58 pm

Nice to see this getting a reboot, I personally thought it was a pretty decent idea. ;)
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Postby Justish » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:33 pm

Small new military-regions should not subdivide themselves into elaborate divisions. Save that for when you have size.

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Postby Port blood » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:15 am

Justish wrote:Small new military-regions should not subdivide themselves into elaborate divisions. Save that for when you have size.


It's about some weird thing with cleansing or something
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=277341
Some history


Basically, these are defenders who are not self-aware
At least UDL is aware that it's just a game
No,I don't speak for TBR,TBH,your mom,moderation or any other person/organization,just saying before anyone thinks that
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Postby Nephmir » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:06 am

Justish wrote:Small new military-regions should not subdivide themselves into elaborate divisions. Save that for when you have size.

I must admit, I am a week behind schedule, but if all goes to plan, I will have a small population surge within the next 10 days. This will be the first of many.
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Postby Port blood » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:27 am

Nephmir wrote:
Justish wrote:Small new military-regions should not subdivide themselves into elaborate divisions. Save that for when you have size.

I must admit, I am a week behind schedule, but if all goes to plan, I will have a small population surge within the next 10 days. This will be the first of many.


I seriously doubt that,no offense,I highly doubt much actual WA nations will join as they are already in other organizations like UDL or FRA,and new players are either puppets or people being jumped on by 10s of telegrams
No,I don't speak for TBR,TBH,your mom,moderation or any other person/organization,just saying before anyone thinks that
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Postby Nephmir » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:19 am

A fair point, but I assure you I have this under control (at least, once I get back on schedule). More on this will be revealed in February.

Also, anyone can become a Pawn (the nations that fight under a Commanding Knight) now, for the most part. It's a very simple process, all anyone must do is move a nation there and answer the 4 questions located in the welcome telegram. They are then placed in the division that best suits their needs, and will receive one-on-one training with that division's Commanding Knight, and a detailed guide to carrying out successful raids and Defense missions, which I will publicly display after I get a division up and running with all 8 Pawns, so that it can be edited if needed.
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Postby Port blood » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:22 am

Wait,raiding? I thought you were a defender purist
No,I don't speak for TBR,TBH,your mom,moderation or any other person/organization,just saying before anyone thinks that
Sedgistan wrote:Discussion of UDL shirts belongs in the UDL thread.



Kelvaros Prime wrote:*Introduces head to wall repeatedly*
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Postby Tano » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:23 am

Ah crap, not this bullshit again. :palm:
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Postby King Nephmir » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:40 am

We are neither Invaders nor Defenders, we both Invade and Defend.

Some people call us "neo-defenders". The Defenders either hate us or don't care about us enough to hate us...yet.

Mid-February is when it all begins. (Assuming I can get back on schedule, which I will).

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 am

*waits for February to pass without much incident*
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Postby Vangerden » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:22 am

Indeed, just take a look at the complete ad..no way this is going to happen!

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I have layed out the plan, as follows:

I. This disease affecting all the regions has a known origin, as previously stated. It also has a known carrier. It likes to cling onto black horses; namely, those of The Black Riders. They will be the first domino. They will most certaintly not be the first or last region to fall.
II. Feeders and Sinkers are completely filled with the disease; they must be united and then cleansed. The Rejected Realms will collect them all, and then they will be cleansed.
III. The UDL and 10000 Islands must be eliminated. They produce the disease rapidly. The FRA will be spared, but cleansed.
IV. Finally, the clean up and repairs. Any remaining founderless regions below a population of 50 will be destroyed permanently, all remaining Raiders will be neutralized, and the Defenders will be cleansed and set free to do their jobs, and help the remaining regions and fight back any Raiders that try to emerge. The Eternal Knights will then withdraw into the home region, to begin cleansing the World Assembly.

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Postby SkyDip » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:24 am

King Nephmir wrote:We are neither Invaders nor Defenders, we both Invade and Defend.

So you have no clear purpose and want to ride the fence. I can't believe no one has come up with and tried to carry out this idea before! How unique! Good luck with that. :roll:
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Postby Kyuji » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:26 am

Ok , so how long till the black raiders purge you?
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Postby Nephmir » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:50 am

Please do not try and start another argument in this thread. I assure you that this time, it won't work out in your favor.

SkyDip wrote:
King Nephmir wrote:We are neither Invaders nor Defenders, we both Invade and Defend.

So you have no clear purpose and want to ride the fence. I can't believe no one has come up with and tried to carry out this idea before! How unique! Good luck with that. :roll:

Of course we have a purpose. Only The Eternal Knights know of the purpose, and the full plan. That first one was to get people interested in the basic premises of it.

Also, I did not say that we are unique, and it's never been tried before, so I'm not sure where you got that from...
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:13 am

If its been tried before, what are you going to do that will make you succeed where better people than you have failed?
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Postby Nephmir » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:46 am

I have 2 answers to that, one simple and one a little bit more involved.

I. I will simply show progress. That will, in itself, solve a few minor problems (such as population, regional influence, morale, etc.), allowing me to focus on the greater issues, like structure and foreign affairs.

To sum it up: efficiency. This is what the region is designed for, and will be played on as much as possible.

II. A realistic plan. Most of the regions that arise like this say "we're going to destroy The Black Riders!" and have no idea how to do it. They are then, as I imagine, heart broken, when they discover that TBR cannot be destroyed (in the sense that they wish it to be). That is merely an example, of course

The reason none of you have any faith in me and my region is because of previous claims and failures. You are judging my capability based on previous failed plans, except for the 30% of you that just think I'm insane.

...those 30% are correct. Only the insane attempt to change the world; the rest live under their rulings.
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Postby Feuer Ritter » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:02 pm

Kyuji wrote:Ok , so how long till the black raiders purge you?


Not long, I'll make sure that happens even if I'm retired, if he continues to mess with TBR tags.

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Postby Alyekra » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:09 pm

King Nephmir wrote:We are neither Invaders nor Defenders, we both Invade and Defend.

Some people call us "neo-defenders". The Defenders either hate us or don't care about us enough to hate us...yet.

Mid-February is when it all begins. (Assuming I can get back on schedule, which I will).


I don't think anyone calls you that. And if they do, they're wrong.
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Postby Kyuji » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:38 pm

Feuer Ritter wrote:
Kyuji wrote:Ok , so how long till the black raiders purge you?


Not long, I'll make sure that happens even if I'm retired, if he continues to mess with TBR tags.

I'd rather have one big raider region then fifteen small raider regions,
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:55 pm

Nephmir wrote:I have 2 answers to that, one simple and one a little bit more involved.

I. I will simply show progress. That will, in itself, solve a few minor problems (such as population, regional influence, morale, etc.), allowing me to focus on the greater issues, like structure and foreign affairs.

To sum it up: efficiency. This is what the region is designed for, and will be played on as much as possible.

II. A realistic plan. Most of the regions that arise like this say "we're going to destroy The Black Riders!" and have no idea how to do it. They are then, as I imagine, heart broken, when they discover that TBR cannot be destroyed (in the sense that they wish it to be). That is merely an example, of course

The reason none of you have any faith in me and my region is because of previous claims and failures. You are judging my capability based on previous failed plans, except for the 30% of you that just think I'm insane.

...those 30% are correct. Only the insane attempt to change the world; the rest live under their rulings.


I. You seem to be underrating the difficulty of the "showing progress" part.

II. If you have to convince other people your plan is realistic then it's probably not very realistic.

Also, admitting you're insane and taking it in stride is cute, but probably not the best way to address people that are doubting your region.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:25 pm

Justish wrote:Small new military-regions should not subdivide themselves into elaborate divisions. Save that for when you have size.


Why not start organizing from the start? Set up a clear chain of command. And this way, even if each division only has a pawn or two, we can carry out more of the simple training raids we're doing at the moment. In effect, we're starting smaller. Closer to one-on-one.

SkyDip wrote:
King Nephmir wrote:We are neither Invaders nor Defenders, we both Invade and Defend.

So you have no clear purpose and want to ride the fence. I can't believe no one has come up with and tried to carry out this idea before! How unique! Good luck with that. :roll:


Haha Iwaku's one of my favorites! But in all seriousness, most of the regions like that are just out for fun. They want to play at both sides as it suits their fancy. We have higher goals. And while they may lean quite raider, especially at the moment, hopefully we can also drive reform in the defenders, among other thing. Also, not being constricted in our tactics opens many more doors for us. We're not afraid to attack raiders, to fight back rather than just defend. Without fighting back, one can only drive off attackers by making it so much of a pain to attack that the give up, and today's defenders certainly are not doing *that.*

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Kyuji wrote:Ok , so how long till the black raiders purge you?


Not long, I'll make sure that happens even if I'm retired, if he continues to mess with TBR tags.


Oh, believe me, we will. Your embassy list is like a shopping cart full of easy-to-take delegate-less regions for training! And while the few we take currently might not be much more than a nuisance, perhaps once every division is up and running we can rival the number of ones you add....

Ridersyl wrote:I. You seem to be underrating the difficulty of the "showing progress" part.

II. If you have to convince other people your plan is realistic then it's probably not very realistic.

Also, admitting you're insane and taking it in stride is cute, but probably not the best way to address people that are doubting your region.


Minor progress is not that hard to make. Eventually we'll hit diminishing returns, but until then even a little is a lot. And we're not expecting a lot yet.

And frankly, we will convince some people with results or a lack of. Hopefully the former. It'll start out slow, but once the few who believe get the train moving, more and more will jump on.


I'm glad everyone is taking interest at least. I'm happy to discuss points, at least as far as I can without sharing secrets, with anyone.
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Postby Charax » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:05 pm

Kyuji wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:
Not long, I'll make sure that happens even if I'm retired, if he continues to mess with TBR tags.

I'd rather have one big raider region then fifteen small raider regions,

Not if the smaller ones were as bumbling and inane as this one you wouldn't.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:08 pm

Charax wrote:
Kyuji wrote:I'd rather have one big raider region than fifteen small raider regions,

Not if the smaller ones were as bumbling and inane as this one you wouldn't.

Well that's not very nice, mate.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Consular » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:55 pm

Not entirely sure how you intend to cleanse us, or whatever the word you used was, but good luck bringing down regions and organisations that are significantly more powerful than your own. I'm surprised TBR even bothered to threaten you, given how irrelevant your forces are to gameplay.

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