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Would you kill a man to save a thousand?

Postby The Valencian Blade » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:46 pm

Alright, so its an age-old question. Let me propose this hypothetical situation.
You have a lunatic dictator, let's call him X. X has killed millions of people in his country, and will kill more. You are given the opportunity to kill him, and thus save millions, but in so doing, you must kill an innocent guy, Bob. Bob's a completely average man. Married, has two kids, works hard, reads the sports before business section of the paper. Do you do it?

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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:47 pm

Depends on the consequences for me.
If I will end up in jail then No.

If society recognizes my sacrifice and flings millions of dollars in currency toward me, then yes.
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Postby Celestial Divinities » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:48 pm

Why do I have to kill Bob?
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:48 pm

depending on the situation, and various other things, probably...

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Postby The New Everlasting » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:49 pm

Only if he looked at me wrong.
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Postby Tybra » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:50 pm

It depends, is X really such a bad guy? Evil is as they say subjective, for all i know he's been prosecuting all the bad guys and ending crime.

Would we assume X is really such a bad or evil guy then yes i would kill Bob. Then again i would kill humanity to save humanity and have no problem with killing millions or even billions of people to save humanity.
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Postby Peripheral Visionaries » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:52 pm

The Valencian Blade wrote:Alright, so its an age-old question. Let me propose this hypothetical situation.
You have a lunatic dictator, let's call him X. X has killed millions of people in his country, and will kill more. You are given the opportunity to kill him, and thus save millions, but in so doing, you must kill an innocent guy, Bob. Bob's a completely average man. Married, has two kids, works hard, reads the sports before business section of the paper. Do you do it?


Reads the sports before the business section?

Sure. That bitch is going down. Crucifixion's too good for 'em.

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Postby Republica Espanola » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:53 pm

If I could sacrifice myself, rather than Bob, I would.
If I couldn't, I'd kill Bob.

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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:54 pm

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Postby United Marktoria » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:54 pm

The Valencian Blade wrote:Alright, so its an age-old question. Let me propose this hypothetical situation.
You have a lunatic dictator, let's call him X. X has killed millions of people in his country, and will kill more. You are given the opportunity to kill him, and thus save millions, but in so doing, you must kill an innocent guy, Bob. Bob's a completely average man. Married, has two kids, works hard, reads the sports before business section of the paper. Do you do it?

I will try to save both. Because if I do kill Bob, people will say the ends will justify the means. Which they rarely do.
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Postby Lord-General Drache » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:57 pm

The Valencian Blade wrote:Alright, so its an age-old question. Let me propose this hypothetical situation.
You have a lunatic dictator, let's call him X. X has killed millions of people in his country, and will kill more. You are given the opportunity to kill him, and thus save millions, but in so doing, you must kill an innocent guy, Bob. Bob's a completely average man. Married, has two kids, works hard, reads the sports before business section of the paper. Do you do it?


Sure. I'll toss in the rest of his family, too, if it'll get me some sort of bonus.
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Postby Fson » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:57 pm

The Valencian Blade wrote:Alright, so its an age-old question. Let me propose this hypothetical situation.
You have a lunatic dictator, let's call him X. X has killed millions of people in his country, and will kill more. You are given the opportunity to kill him, and thus save millions, but in so doing, you must kill an innocent guy, Bob. Bob's a completely average man. Married, has two kids, works hard, reads the sports before business section of the paper. Do you do it?



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by Wilgrove » Wed May 26, 2010 7:51 am

OMG, It's so obvious! Of course!! Science has lied to us!!!

It's time to abandon scientific progress and only look towards the Lord Jesus Christ (who is white of course) for guidance in all matters!

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Postby Fnordgasm 5 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:59 pm

I've always hated Bob...
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Postby Kamsaki » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:59 pm

I'd ask Bob for his thoughts on the matter. If he doesn't mind dying for the sake of all, I'll do it and make sure he goes down in history as the real hero. If he's a bit non-plussed, I'll do what I can to do the job without killing him, and probably fail and get killed myself, but heck, maybe that'll show Bob that it's sometimes worth putting your life on the line, and he'll inspire someone else to try again in the future.

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Postby Flameswroth » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:00 pm

Could one of the people the dictator killed in the future be me, or my family? If so, I'd off Bob for sure. But if it's just like, a dictator in Africa or something, I see no reason why Bob and I should get involved. So I wouldn't do it in that case.
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Postby Fson » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:00 pm

United Marktoria wrote:
The Valencian Blade wrote:Alright, so its an age-old question. Let me propose this hypothetical situation.
You have a lunatic dictator, let's call him X. X has killed millions of people in his country, and will kill more. You are given the opportunity to kill him, and thus save millions, but in so doing, you must kill an innocent guy, Bob. Bob's a completely average man. Married, has two kids, works hard, reads the sports before business section of the paper. Do you do it?

I will try to save both. Because if I do kill Bob, people will say the ends will justify the means. Which they rarely do.


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by Wilgrove » Wed May 26, 2010 7:51 am

OMG, It's so obvious! Of course!! Science has lied to us!!!

It's time to abandon scientific progress and only look towards the Lord Jesus Christ (who is white of course) for guidance in all matters!

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Postby The Araucania » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:00 pm

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Postby Goldsaver » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:01 pm

Yes. Sacrifice One Innocent to save millions? Hell yeah.
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Postby Khithali » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:02 pm

Well I'd know I should do it. Being a utilitarian means that I think that killing one person to save a thousand is by far the better thing to do. Whether I could bring myself to kill someone else, though, I don't know, and I'm not exactly eager to put that to the test.

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Postby LOL ANARCHY NUBZ » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:02 pm

Duh. Fuck Bob. It's all relative anyway.

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Postby Kirrix » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:04 pm

Bob gets it. I'll try to make it as quick and painless as possible, but asshats need stopping.

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Postby Groko » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:04 pm

Yeah, I'd prefer that I died instead, though. (No kids)

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Postby Novograd IV » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:05 pm

i'd make it quick.

the kind of 3 month planning, get him in a coffee shop, killed without trace of the murderer job, no fingerprints, no suspicion, LOTS of connections to perform recon.

unless i was ALOWED TO KILL HIM.
THEN i'd get him in a dark alley, explain WHY i was killing him, then a 50. cal to the brain.
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Postby Republica Espanola » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:06 pm

Fnordgasm 5 wrote:I've always hated Bob...

And now they'll probably offer me Bob's old job.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:06 pm

Yes.
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