The Socialist Treaty Organization OOC Discussion Thread

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

This is the discussion thread for the STO. All OOC discussion should be made here.
Since Military Numbers are good so far there is no need to discuss that but instead we will move onto the next topic which is military standardization. Should we standardize our equipment and weapons, or not at all.

I think we should standardize just weapons and go for Russian and Kalashnikov weapons due to their cost,ease of production, durability. Also I think we should standardize to the 7.62x39 round for Rifles and LMGs. Also standardize to the 7.62x54R round for Machine guns and Snipers. The reason is because these rounds perform well in urban environments compared to other shorter rounds and most modern day combat is in cities. Also they are relatively accurate at distances so we would be able to engage targets farther away.

Also should we build up a collective group of forces for the STO? Like each nation donates a certain amount troops to this group and they will be on standby incase of attack on any nation or all of us?

If there is anything you want to voice or bring up for discussion just say it and it will go from there.

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[Librira]

I'd be fine with round standardization, considering i envisioned by nations armed forces being equipped with such ammo, as for weapons though I'd like it to not be "only AK-47s!!!" because that's just weird, I'd say it'd be ok as long as it is a AK derivative. (I.E. uses the same ammo, and has a simalier operating mechanism.)

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

I'd be fine with round standardization, considering i envisioned by nations armed forces being equipped with such ammo, as for weapons though I'd like it to not be "only AK-47s!!!" because that's just weird, I'd say it'd be ok as long as it is a AK derivative. (I.E. uses the same ammo, and has a simalier operating mechanism.)

I agree, I for example use the AK-103 since its more modern. I'd say you could have your own design as long as its centered around the AK system due to interchangeibility between everyone's weapons so parts wont be an issue in the field.

[Kambana]

I think we should each donate a portion of our armed forces for strict usage by the STO. This will give us solid numbers as to what is available and would decrease response time in times of need. I also support the standardization of equipment as most of us use some form of Russian inspired weaponry, it wont be a difficult change. This will simplify logistics and logistics wins wars.

[Anollasia]

I can't help with armed forces but with first aid and financial aid.

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

I can't help with armed forces but with first aid and financial aid.

Thats okay you can help in anyway you can.

[Evanslavia]

I'm in favor of standardizing ammunition, but I'm iffy on standardizing the weapons themselves. I'm in favor of each nation designating a set number of troops to the STO. I think a small percent not greater than 5% would cover it.

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

I'm in favor of standardizing ammunition, but I'm iffy on standardizing the weapons themselves. I'm in favor of each nation designating a set number of troops to the STO. I think a small percent not greater than 5% would cover it.

I also think we should build up an STO force that is ready to go at any time. 5% also seems reasonable as well. The reason I think Weapon standardization would be nessissary is because if one guy needs a part and his isnt working he can just ask his Evanslavia comrade for a spare and it should work. It would just ease things and make things look more unified. As long as their design is AK derived or similar I would say its fine.

[Kanatistan]

I think weapon standardization is a good idea but it is not going far enough, tools, and artillery need standardization. This will help us and then no one will not have a certain thing for their job if they get seep rated and join a different nations battalion lets say.

[Evanslavia]

I'm in favor of standardizing ammunition, but I'm iffy on standardizing the weapons themselves. I'm in favor of each nation designating a set number of troops to the STO. I think a small percent not greater than 5% would cover it.

I also think we should build up an STO force that is ready to go at any time. 5% also seems reasonable as well. The reason I think Weapon standardization would be nessissary is because if one guy needs a part and his isnt working he can just ask his Evanslavia comrade for a spare and it should work. It would just ease things and make things look more unified. As long as their design is AK derived or similar I would say its fine.

I'm in favor of standardizing gear for STO units, it just makes sense. However, if my military outside of the STO units decides to use a different weapon for whatever reason, I don't feel like I should be confined to what everyone else wants.

[Kambana]

I also think we should build up an STO force that is ready to go at any time. 5% also seems reasonable as well. The reason I think Weapon standardization would be nessissary is because if one guy needs a part and his isnt working he can just ask his Evanslavia comrade for a spare and it should work. It would just ease things and make things look more unified. As long as their design is AK derived or similar I would say its fine.

I'm in favor of standardizing gear for STO units, it just makes sense. However, if my military outside of the STO units decides to use a different weapon for whatever reason, I don't feel like I should be confined to what everyone else wants.

I think we are just discussing STO units. So yeah, standardization is pretty agreed upon. Now, we need to decide what percentage of each military will form the STO Armed Forces. And what exact equipment they will use.

I say, each nation donate whatever troop numbers they can, and it not be set by percentages, as we seem to have a pacifist nation in our ranks. But equipment needs to be decided.

[Odinburgh]

Odinburgh Galactic Federation since is similarly based from Marvel's Thor from a technological standpoint, my nation is supplied with all weapons from all tech eras in its weapon library but they sure love their axes, maces, swords, hammers, and bows.

[Vanguard of the Communist Revolution]

Well, Vanguard of the Communist Revolution would love the Kalashnikovs, as they think they are the "revolutionary weapon". However, keep in mind that they are more like exaggerated Trotskyists, and think that Stalin and later leaders were traitors when discussing the Soviet Union with the Politburo. They love Cuba though. The Motorcycle Diaries is required reading in the schools!

Standardization would be good for Vanguard, as they see themselves as the leaders of a movement more than nationalists per se.

[Kanatistan]

Will donate 500,000 men for now and more will be coming later.

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

So is standardization of the STO units agreed upon? And I agree with Whatever your nation can supply. My nation could send in about 200,000 or so troops into it. We also need to come up with the equipment they'll be using. Im saying the AK-103 due to cost, durability, power in urban combat, and modern design. Its just as modular as the M16/M4 but cheaper, more reliable, and more powerful. Another design would be the AK-12 but it has slight flaws currently. Also Artillery and such will also be standardized I forgot about that.

[Kambana]

AK-103 is sound. And Kambana can donate about 50,000. With an active force of above 300,000 that is a large portion of our forces.

[Eemeria]

We would be willing to assign units to the STO and we would even be willing to lend an Orion Airship for use by the STO for whatever function they deem fit. We would be willing to standardize our weapons for the STO troops.

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

I should also mention the main enemy of this great alliance is the Republican Treaty Organization. The group is full of money hogging capitalists that wish to do nothing but stop our idea of a free communist world. We will do everything that we can ensure they do not falter us and instead make sure we free the people oppresed by them. But remember diplomacy before military action. If they do provoke us however, we will make sure the full military might of the STO crushes them in every way and destroys their petty alliance. Ura!

[Democratic Union of Cydonia]

The Great Terran Republic may declare war on us so I would step up security in your country and if you haven't listed how many troops you are donating to the STO group forces then do so now Im going to list them together in the OP to see how many there are and if it is correct.

[Versail]

I will donate 80,000 from the army, 20,000 from the air force, and 10,000 from the navy as well as 50 million aureuss annually to fund this.

[Evanslavia]

I am currently assigning 5% of my active military personnel to the STO Forces. This number is approximately 650 men. I will also assign 5% of my reserves to STO Forces as well, making my total contribution 3,650 men or so.

This number will increase in the event of crisis, which will cause more people to join the military.

[Kanatistan]

We need to be more active.

[Vanguard of the Communist Revolution]

We need to be more active.

Yes. I play a country that is very. . .passionate about its ideals. It needs to forcibly redistribute some poor capitalists' property pretty soon, or they'll just start ransacking their own establishments like Nicolás Maduro or something.

[Kanatistan]

I think our first task should be to help fight for communism!
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This link brings you to a communist revolution thing

[Vanguard of the Communist Revolution]

I think our first task should be to help fight for communism!
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This link brings you to a communist revolution thing

We have sent many troops to aid the socialists. The people of Kanatistan are good allies to the revolution.