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The Ethics of Zombie Warfare

Postby Elchland » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:09 pm

When it comes to regular war, there are often ethics and laws that nations are expected to abide by. But what about zombies? They are not sentient, hostile by nature, and a threat to all species, races, and ethnic groups. So should the same laws apply? To what extent should nations be allowed to erode rights in order to combat the zombies? Should chemical and nuclear weapons be tolerated?

President Heissler and the Vanguard Party have stated that they are not above doing away with arbitrary liberties in order to save the nation, as such, we are in a state of martial law. However, we are skeptical of the use of nuclear weapons, as the damage from these weapons will still be felt long after the zombies have been eliminated.

Are nuclear weapons a viable last resort?

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Postby Hungaristan » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:13 pm

Nuclear Weapons will be swatted out of the sky by my NDS if a wayward nation attempts so. We cannot risk any nuclear war.
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Postby Elchland » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:16 pm

Hungaristan wrote:Nuclear Weapons will be swatted out of the sky by my NDS if a wayward nation attempts so. We cannot risk any nuclear war.


What if they are used within one's own territory?

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Postby Dakran » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:17 pm

To what kind of ethics can we apply to something we do not consider sentient? Do we have after thoughts when killing off harmful virus? Or bacteria? Logically, the Zombies are a plague. A virus upon humanity and all it affects.
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Postby Guadalupador » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:19 pm

There are ethics to killing the undead?
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Postby SuperHappySmileyWorld » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:47 pm

We at SuperHappySmileyWorld, those in charge of the military that is, having to deal with the walking dead before and on a fairly regular basis, have decided that any and all Zombie sightings must be treated as a full on code ONIX (invasion level event) and the Zombies there in are treated as no less of a threat as the ones showcased in the landmark documentary/cautionary tale 'Return of the Living Dead', where in the Zombies are not only very intelligent and capable of reasoning and speaking, but are also nearly unkillable, as only a severe dose of electricity (It stunned them for as long as the voltage remained) or burning (Which was not a smart idea if there was any cloud cover) or large doses of very strong acid were at all effective at impeding them

As such, we do not believe in being ethical towards zombies of any type... then again we are not particularly ethical at all so it is all par for the course
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Postby Kistan » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:49 pm

Kistan will use any means short of nuclear weapons to destroy the dead.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:50 pm

We tried using nukes when this happened in April. It went horribly, horribly wrong. We'll be sticking to nanobots that turn organic matter into sludge from now on.
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Postby Lord Murphy » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:59 pm

In the pursuit of survival for the state, no means are too much and no effort goes too far. Nuclear weapons, nano bots, chemical or biological strikes, rail-gun slugs from low orbit, conventional weaponry, civilian militias, down to our own bare hands if necessary; all will be used to maintain and preserve the Holy Empire of Lord Murphy.

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Postby Sucrati » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:59 pm

We have many non-nuclear means to deal with the undead hordes. Fuel air bombs are one of them.
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Postby Zombie Rights Activists » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:06 pm

All warfare is unethical.

Disarm now.

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Postby The Witch Queen » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:35 pm

If you must resort to chemical and nuclear weaponry, then something went seriously wrong with your anti-zombie doctrine and it's application.

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Postby SuperHappySmileyWorld » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:47 pm

The Witch Queen wrote:If you must resort to chemical and nuclear weaponry, then something went seriously wrong with your anti-zombie doctrine and it's application.


I understand not liking the Nuke option, nukes and zombies rarely work the way one intends, indeed one time we tried that it only served to make the infection airborne, which only made matters much much worse

But what ever are you talking about in terms of chemical weapons? Chemical weapons have been incredibly useful in beating the Zeds back in previous incursions
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Postby Kholovia » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:04 am

In war against the undead, our nation uses the philosophy of "Kill or Be Killed", although ultimately searching for a cure.

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Postby Towson » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:56 am

There are none unless there weapons that can easily end up causeing human causties by accident.
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Postby Cornia » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:29 am

We do not follow any code of war. While it may seem harsh or unethical, all that matters is that our people survive. We are researching a cure, but if that does not work we have a plan in place. We shall wall off any cities that remained safe from the infection and begin destroying hordes everywhere else. If all else fails, we will evacuate all survivors and wipe out a small country to start over in.
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Postby Imperium of Tanith » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:56 am

Ethics? In Zombie Warfare?

Surely you jest...

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Postby The blood ravens » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:27 am

We're ready to nuke ourselves if we have to.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:11 am

Ethics in war?! Ha ha ha!
Our only ethic is to win.

Our actions against zombies won't even count as war, though. They're the size of puny humants, but zombies are even more stupid than their living counterparts. We'll just wade into wherever they're congregating, pick them up and implant them with control chips. It'll be nowhere near on the level of war or even a little battle. Instead, it'll be more like dealing with chickens in a coop.
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Postby The Campbell Nation » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:22 am

The official policy of the Campbell Nation Armed Forces is that zombies, because they target the easiest meat around (civilians), and do not make any attempt to distinguish themselves by carrying arms openly or wearing uniforms, are not in adherence with the laws of war, and as such, have voided any pretense of attempting to enforce a standard on our side. It is therefore the policy of the armed forces to take whatever measures are necessary to protect the remaining civilian population, while minimalizing collateral damage.
While we do attempt to minimize the number of deaths in total, as our end goal is to cure the zombies and convert them back to citizens, the military is not above using unconventional weapons to stem the tide and buy our researchers time.
Nuclear and chemical weapons are acceptable to hold back the zombies, but due to their destructive nature, and their ability to cause massive collateral damage, we try to use them only as a last resort.
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Postby Olwe » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:03 am

We approach just like we would a war against Humans... in other words, we tell other nations "Grow a pair. There is no room for morality in war!" and then proceed to slaughter the enemy as completely as possible.
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Postby Caladania (Ancient) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:54 am

Standard rules of engagement don't count when fighting something that has neither pain nor emotions, let alone rights. People found to be in the early stages of infection will be put down as humanely as circumstances permit. The ethicality of methods used in research for a cure cannot be guaranteed, given the urgency of the situation.

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Postby Liberionia » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:09 pm

We don't wanna use nukes. It gives land cancer. The best things for us are high capacity mags and chainsaw bayonets.


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