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Postby The Red Star Union » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:10 am

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/18/politics/ ... index.html
So apparently, because of the Obamacare standoff, the US government might shutdown. What do you think NSers? Im blaming the Republicans, but please do not turn this into a flaming debate.

Discuss.

[Modedit: I've altered the thread title, because the question mark is no longer exactly apropos government managed to pass the thing meaning it gets to do things. Let's hope it won't need altering again soon! ;P]
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:25 am

A little over dramatic. They just want to be in the news and all anti-Obama care
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Postby Greto » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:28 am

I wouldn't necessarily lay the sole finger of blame upon the Republicans when the Democrats are of equal responsibility for this schoolyard showdown that keeps happening.
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Postby Mewtinigrad » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:28 am

Sigh...anyone else getting that feeling of Deja vu?
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Postby Zeganas » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:29 am

I didn't become a libertarian for nothing. But I think that the democrats are more responsible than the republics, but the republicans aren't fully in the clear.
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Postby Marquette of Pacific » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:35 am

Shut it the heck down! Democrats are frigging good for nothing and their regime is ruining our lovely nation!
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:35 am

Shutting it down would end very, very badly for everyone.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:36 am

Greto wrote:I wouldn't necessarily lay the sole finger of blame upon the Republicans when the Democrats are of equal responsibility for this schoolyard showdown that keeps happening.

Are the democrats the one holding Congress and the nation hostage to repeal a law that would never get repealed through honest means?
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Postby Belmaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:36 am

Obama must really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:37 am

Good.

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Divair wrote:Good.


How so?
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Postby Greto » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 am

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Greto wrote:I wouldn't necessarily lay the sole finger of blame upon the Republicans when the Democrats are of equal responsibility for this schoolyard showdown that keeps happening.

Are the democrats the one holding Congress and the nation hostage to repeal a law that would never get repealed through honest means?


No they hold Congress hostage to pass their retarded legislation instead and refuse to compromise, like the Republicans.
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Postby Unicario » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 am

The Republicans are being brats about Obamacare. DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE, YOU DINOSAURS.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 am

Belmaria wrote:Obama must really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.

Wait, you think this is Obama doing that? Oh no. Obama has no reason to do so, when he knows full well that Congress will never and can never repeal his healthcare law. He has America's mandate, right now. America as a country does not want healthcare do be repealed.

What's happening is that Boehner has yielded to extremist pressure in the House, and now they refuse to pass any law keeping the government running unless it also defunds the ACA.

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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Divair wrote:Good.


How so?

Crushes any chances of the GOP gaining seats in 2014.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:40 am

Belmaria wrote:Obama must really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.


Someone didn't read the link. :rofl:
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Postby Belmaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:40 am

Unicario wrote:The Republicans are being brats about Obamacare. DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE, YOU DINOSAURS.

My mother works as a home health nurse and has been told that she might lose her job because of Obamacare so I agree with the GOP on this one.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:42 am

Belmaria wrote:
Unicario wrote:The Republicans are being brats about Obamacare. DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE, YOU DINOSAURS.

My mother works as a home health nurse and has been told that she might lose her job because of Obamacare so I agree with the GOP on this one.


BY crippling a frail economy even more?


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How so?

Crushes any chances of the GOP gaining seats in 2014.


That is a very good point
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Postby Belmaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:42 am

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Obama must really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.

Wait, you think this is Obama doing that? Oh no. Obama has no reason to do so, when he knows full well that Congress will never and can never repeal his healthcare law. He has America's mandate, right now. America as a country does not want healthcare do be repealed.

What's happening is that Boehner has yielded to extremist pressure in the House, and now they refuse to pass any law keeping the government running unless it also defunds the ACA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24178690

O RLY?
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Postby HumanSanity » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:42 am

Here in Texas junior Senator Ted Cruz has threatened a filibuster while senior Senator John Cornyn has said he is willing to compromise and doesn't support the filibuster. One will not be in office come 4/6 years.
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Postby Xeng He » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:43 am

You know what would be nice?

A constitutional amendment requiring at least four years for a "trial run" of new laws passed. I don't care how good or bad they are, they'd at least be doing something.

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Belmaria wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:Wait, you think this is Obama doing that? Oh no. Obama has no reason to do so, when he knows full well that Congress will never and can never repeal his healthcare law. He has America's mandate, right now. America as a country does not want healthcare do be repealed.

What's happening is that Boehner has yielded to extremist pressure in the House, and now they refuse to pass any law keeping the government running unless it also defunds the ACA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24178690

O RLY?

lol Rasmussen. One of the only polling sites to claim Romney would win.

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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:43 am

Greto wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:Are the democrats the one holding Congress and the nation hostage to repeal a law that would never get repealed through honest means?


No they hold Congress hostage to pass their retarded legislation instead and refuse to compromise, like the Republicans.

How so?

Let me make one point clear. America voted for the Democrats. Not the Republicans. For Obama. Not for Romney. If we had proportional representation, then Democrats would have more seats than the Republicans.

So, Obama has America's mandate to do what he wants. He pushed the ACA through Congress, like it should. He pushed the rest of his laws through Congress, like they should be. Give me one example where he held Congress hostage to push through a law that otherwise would have been struck down by Congress?
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Postby Belmaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:44 am

Divair wrote:
Belmaria wrote:O RLY?

lol Rasmussen. One of the only polling sites to claim Romney would win.

*Cough Cough*
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