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Is the psycho-social system of NSG forming its own mind?

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Is the psycho-social system of NSG forming its own mind?

Postby Skrewalkers » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:41 pm

Here on nationstates general, there is a dynamic and ceaseless interaction between people and ideas, both creche and habitat for intellects young and old. In this environment, the synaptic threads are formed and sundered, sending both meaningful signal and flaming friction until knowledge is gained and/or the mods pop a Midol of red text and put our threads to bed.

Some is regurgitation, some is pseudo-intellectual posturing, some is the vigor of youth stretching its legs into the forest philosophy, history, politics...but some is contemplative, even cogitative, sometimes someone even says something new. Like an accelerator circling the same subjects over and over again, seeking that critical collision of consideration that reveals something. Even the grinding of the same repeated arguments, the same weary fallacies (and wearier naming of fallacy) much surely leave some callous on these many minds, shaping, smoothing, even polishing those few who might shine in thought or deed.

So what comes from this engine, from its 24/7 surging, the fuel of frustration and friendships, the torque of our time and talents...is it merely play?

Might there be some psycho-social intelligence slowly forming, the glial cells of the gamers giving a structure to house the dendrites forming across continents, neural paths leading to General like roads to Rome...

...and what would it say?

If NSG became somehow self-aware, and sifted through the summation of debates, nourished by salty spam and even the tender masses of our tumorous trolls, what might it be thinking?

I think it might ask, "who am I? Why am I here? What should I do? What is important to me? From where did I come? If I haven't read 'Lexicon' yet, why not?"

And those are questions that, to me, bespeak of life.

Like a brilliant lunatic, torn asunder by cognitive dissonance and unsilented voices, NSG is a thousand-lobed beast.

Topic of discussion: If it could speak and not but howl, what would it say?

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Postby Bendira » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:43 pm

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Postby Aravea » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:43 pm

Oh no NSG has become self aware and is going to conquer the world :lol2:
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Postby Forsakia » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:44 pm

Dear God I hope not.
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Postby Surfistan » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:45 pm

Pretty sure it's just the Liberal Hivemind becoming more sentient every day.

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Postby Skrewalkers » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:46 pm

Aravea wrote:Oh no NSG has become self aware and is going to conquer the world :lol2:


I can imagine the terminator talking now.

"August 29th, 2:14 am, NSG becomes self-aware. Every world leader suddenly gets a telegram explaining that a fetus is a parasite, assault rifles are undefinable, and they would do well to familiarize themselves with the work of noted 20th century philosopher Ayn Rand. Global collapse ensues."

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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:46 pm

I suggest we attempt to learn from it, see its patterns, and coexist with this new being.
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Postby Skrewalkers » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:47 pm

Forsakia wrote:Dear God I hope not.


Why not? What would be the risk?

Or worse, the disaster?

Or do you just fear an enormous throbbing digital mass on the internet screaming "STRAWMAN!!!!!!!!" into space for all time?

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Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:48 pm

NSG would become too self-aware to turn into Godzilla.

It'd move to Washington state, start smoking dope, and become a communist.
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Postby Hydronium » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:48 pm

NSG is self aware?

Shi- *Runs away like a bat outta hell*

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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:48 pm

Skrewalkers wrote:
Forsakia wrote:Dear God I hope not.


Why not? What would be the risk?

Or worse, the disaster?

Or do you just fear an enormous throbbing digital mass on the internet screaming "STRAWMAN!!!!!!!!" into space for all time?


The system will learn to adapt and change as it matures toward a higher stage of artificial intelligence.
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Postby The Iosis Republic » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:48 pm

Benuty wrote:I suggest we attempt to learn from it, see its patterns, and coexist with this new being.


As it now houses our collective intellect and personalities, I very much doubt many people would want it to be active let alone attempt to co-exist with it.

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Postby Skrewalkers » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:49 pm

Surfistan wrote:Pretty sure it's just the Liberal Hivemind becoming more sentient every day.


What particular themes prevalent on NSG would you say contribute to the "Liberal" premise of the hivemind?

Maybe they'll send Ann Coulter here to kill us with politics-in-religion threads, like tossing a 55 gallon barrel of napalm into HAL-9000's main core.

"Ann? What are you doing Ann-AAAAAGHGHGH SHITFUCKITBUURNNNNSSS!!!!!----bewp"

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Postby Aravea » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:49 pm

The Iosis Republic wrote:
Benuty wrote:I suggest we attempt to learn from it, see its patterns, and coexist with this new being.


As it now houses our collective intellect and personalities, I very much doubt many people would want it to be active let alone attempt to co-exist with it.


So wouldn't that make part of us immortal?
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Postby Skrewalkers » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:50 pm

The Republic of Mattlandia wrote:NSG would become too self-aware to turn into Godzilla.

It'd move to Washington state, start smoking dope, and become a communist.


Except ten percent of the time, it hangs out at a local gun store and talks about how Obama is mulatto-satan.

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Postby Hydronium » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:51 pm

Aravea wrote:
The Iosis Republic wrote:
As it now houses our collective intellect and personalities, I very much doubt many people would want it to be active let alone attempt to co-exist with it.


So wouldn't that make part of us immortal?


Great, this means that my pseudoinsane Jesus-freak Alter ego will live forever...

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Postby Las Palmeras » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:51 pm

So many conflicting ideals...it must have dissociative identity disorder.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:51 pm

The Iosis Republic wrote:
Benuty wrote:I suggest we attempt to learn from it, see its patterns, and coexist with this new being.


As it now houses our collective intellect and personalities, I very much doubt many people would want it to be active let alone attempt to co-exist with it.

Eventually all of the collective intellect and personalities will merge into one identity.
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Postby Skrewalkers » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
The system will learn to adapt and change as it matures toward a higher stage of artificial intelligence.


But have we solved the problem of coherent extrapolative volition?

What stressors will it adapt to, how will it change, and what will identify this higher stage?

I think you propose a very interesting scenario.

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Postby Esternial » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:51 pm

Guess we're suffering from quite the split personality disorder.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:52 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:So many conflicting ideals...it must have dissociative identity disorder.


Only until the split personalities merge into one being.
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Postby Gallopfrey and the Pony Republic Therof » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:52 pm

I do like the comparison of the connections and speculations of players to synapses and mental arguments. I somehow find it hard to think it would become self aware, but the interactions of players could definitely be studied as a massive network, each player having it's own opinion, making connection with those it agrees with, forming cases to weigh against those it disagrees with, and the like. The connections could be very interesting.

Or we could just end up with a massive pile of randomness. But it would be a hivemind generated pile of randomness.
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Postby Hydronium » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:52 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:So many conflicting ideals...it must have dissociative identity disorder.

That, PTSD from all the good war RP's, insanity from being around magic too long, multiple personality disorder from all the different nations, and a whole ton of other stuff...

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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:53 pm

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Postby Gallopfrey and the Pony Republic Therof » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:54 pm

Hydronium wrote:
Las Palmeras wrote:So many conflicting ideals...it must have dissociative identity disorder.

That, PTSD from all the good war RP's, insanity from being around magic too long, multiple personality disorder from all the different nations, and a whole ton of other stuff...

Some first-class abandonment issues from all the roleplays that die randomly.
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