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Postby Athylon Prime » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:28 pm

In this thread, I want you to explain what drew you towards, or drove you from religion. Why you hold the beliefs you hold, how you deal with criticism, and what you specifically believe in a religious sense. If you don't have any religious beliefs, explain why. I'll start off.

I was born into a very Fundamentalist Christian household. To be specific, Assemblies of God. The driving force behind my whole family, specifically my Paternal Grandmother and my mom, was their faith in Jesus. As far back as I can remember, my mother, and to a lesser extent my father, instilled in me the idea that God was calling me to be a minister. Of course I believed them. This went on for about 14 years. Then, for reasons I won't go into, it stopped. One of the main problems was drugs, though. Not on my part, but my parents. They soon decided to get a divorce. This started a downward spiral that drove my mother, brother and I into some dark places. Very dark. It was during this dark time my brother and I started going to a Southern Baptist church. The youth group was amazing to say the least, and was a deciding factor on me continuing down the road to ministry. I went on mission trips near and far, attended church regularly, and began to study the Bible religiously (pun intended). Thus arose the problem.

While studying the Bible, I also started to read philosophical books. While searching the Philosophy section of the library, I happened upon a book titled " Why I Am Not a Christian" by the infamous Bertrand Russell. I almost put it back on the shelf, but curiosity got the better of me. This book literally changed the way I looked at life. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I began to fervently study the Bible with a new zeal, but it was to no avail. I had noticed some non-sequiturs and morally questionable acts before, but now it seemed there were many more. I began to read other secular books, "How Science Disproves God" and "Letter to a Christian Nation" just to name a few. I couldn't hide it any longer, I had lost my faith. This was a problem, for I had set out to become a minister. I was used to breaking down any problems I had logically, and the worst thing I could do in my mind was to announce to everybody I had ceased to believe. I continued and am continuing my ministerial classes, mostly because they are paid for and I still have a legitimate interest in the Bible and religions in general. But, to wrap this all up, I lost my faith in god due to their being no demonstrable, empirical scientific evidence to point to the existence to a deity or deities. I have a very logical, rational mind. My sanity AND my faith could not reside together. I chose to keep my sanity. I really do want to believe, I just see no point in lying to myself in the face of so much evidence.


EDIT: Let me delve a little deeper. I am a very loose Deist. I follow the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, I most definitely believe in Karma, and I see the universe as a giant clock. If one gear ceases to function properly, the whole clock becomes unstable, and the problem finds its way back to the faulty gear. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:30 pm

I'm an atheist because there is no rational evidence for the existence for a deity.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:30 pm

Athylon Prime wrote:In this thread, I want you to explain what drew you towards, or drove you from religion. Why you hold the beliefs you hold, how you deal with criticism, and what you specifically believe in a religious sense. If you don't have any religious beliefs, explain why. I'll start off.

I was born into a very Fundamentalist Christian household. To be specific, Assemblies of God. The driving force behind my whole family, specifically my Paternal Grandmother and my mom, was their faith in Jesus. As far back as I can remember, my mother, and to a lesser extent my father, instilled in me the idea that God was calling me to be a minister. Of course I believed them. This went on for about 14 years. Then, for reasons I won't go into, it stopped. One of the main problems was drugs, though. Not on my part, but my parents. They soon decided to get a divorce. This started a downward spiral that drove my mother, brother and I into some dark places. Very dark. It was during this dark time my brother and I started going to a Southern Baptist church. The youth group was amazing to say the least, and was a deciding factor on me continuing down the road to ministry. I went on mission trips near and far, attended church regularly, and began to study the Bible religiously (pun intended). Thus arose the problem.

While studying the Bible, I also started to read philosophical books. While searching the Philosophy section of the library, I happened upon a book titled " Why I Am Not a Christian" by the infamous Bertrand Russell. I almost put it back on the shelf, but curiosity got the better of me. This book literally changed the way I looked at life. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I began to fervently study the Bible with a new zeal, but it was to no avail. I had noticed some non-sequiturs and morally questionable acts before, but now it seemed there were many more. I began to read other secular books, "How Science Disproves God" and "Letter to a Christian Nation" just to name a few. I couldn't hide it any longer, I had lost my faith. This was a problem, for I had set out to become a minister. I was used to breaking down any problems I had logically, and the worst thing I could do in my mind was to announce to everybody I had ceased to believe. I continued and am continuing my ministerial classes, mostly because they are paid for and I still have a legitimate interest in the Bible and religions in general. But, to wrap this all up, I lost my faith in god due to their being no demonstrable, empirical scientific evidence to point to the existence to a deity or deities. I have a very logical, rational mind. My sanity AND my faith could not reside together. I chose to keep my sanity. I really do want to believe, I just see no point in lying to myself in the face of so much evidence.

Well my faith Is somewhere in between Christian and Jewish.....
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:31 pm

Atheist in the sense of deities. Because no evidence.
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Postby The Kingdom of Nea Hellas » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:31 pm

My suggestion for you: Read C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity"

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:31 pm

I don't think there is much explanation about the hundreds of Biblical contradictions which make me doubt that there is a God that is omnipotent or even omniscient. Once those powers are taken away, then the god doesn't sound particularly interesting and thus I lost interest seeping into atheism.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:31 pm

I think there is something out there, but it isn't to be worshiped. It's just there. A state of mind more than an actual visible thing.
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Postby Albul » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:32 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:I don't think there is much explanation about the hundreds of Biblical contradictions which make me doubt that there is a God that is omnipotent or even omniscient. Once those powers are taken away, then the god doesn't sound particularly interesting and thus I lost interest seeping into atheism.


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Postby Bentrada » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:33 pm

Just gonna put it plainly, I'm an Anti-theist Atheist. I was driving from the Christian religion while watching astronomy-related videos, and videos trying to dis-prove deities.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:33 pm

I am a Protestant Christian. I was mainly raised into it, but I accepted the beliefs for myself also.
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Postby The Carlisle » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:33 pm

I'm atheist mostly because there is no evidence for a deity to exist.
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Postby Albul » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:34 pm

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:34 pm

Bentrada wrote:Just gonna put it plainly, I'm an Anti-theist Atheist. I was driving from the Christian religion while watching astronomy-related videos, and videos trying to dis-prove deities.

Do you think religion should be banned?
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Postby Pacifornia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:34 pm

Atheist, I just don't see any evidence of a god or gods
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Postby Technopolis » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:35 pm

Both of my parents are atheist, so bought up with that. Went to a Christian youth club in my school for a while, but stopped going after the guy running it told me that the only possible explanation for wind was that there was a god controlling it when I couldn't tell him where wind came from. In my next science lesson, we learnt about convection currents.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:36 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Bentrada wrote:Just gonna put it plainly, I'm an Anti-theist Atheist. I was driving from the Christian religion while watching astronomy-related videos, and videos trying to dis-prove deities.

Do you think religion should be banned?


I think everyone is free to believe whatever they wish. Just don't drill your religion in my head.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:36 pm

I don't believe in God in the traditional sense. That concept is just so inherently flawed, the Bible is full of endless logical fallacies and the God in the Bible is actually quite a mean, spiteful being.

I have my own god. Rather then it being a conscious creature, it is simply the personification of all of my values, ethics and beliefs about the world. So when I speak about my god to someone else, I'm speaking about everything I consider right and just rolled into one, if that makes sense.

When it comes to the question of whether there is life after death, I'm open to all sorts of possibilities.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:36 pm

Athylon Prime wrote:In this thread, I want you to explain what drew you towards, or drove you from religion. Why you hold the beliefs you hold, how you deal with criticism, and what you specifically believe in a religious sense. If you don't have any religious beliefs, explain why.

I'm an atheist because I wasn't indoctrinated in any religion when I was young and still haven't seen any compelling evidence for the existence of any deity or deities let alone any specific one...
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Postby The Kingdom of Nea Hellas » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:37 pm

I have struggled with my faith throughout my life but after hardship and suffering I have embraced it. To the day I die, I will live a Greek Orthodox Christian.

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Postby Albul » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:37 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Do you think religion should be banned?


I think everyone is free to believe whatever they wish. Just don't drill your religion in my head.

The opposite of what you're doing. You're forcing atheism onto Christians.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:37 pm

Albul wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I don't think there is much explanation about the hundreds of Biblical contradictions which make me doubt that there is a God that is omnipotent or even omniscient. Once those powers are taken away, then the god doesn't sound particularly interesting and thus I lost interest seeping into atheism.


Try Deism

Deism is pretty damn pointless.
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Postby Bentrada » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:37 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Bentrada wrote:Just gonna put it plainly, I'm an Anti-theist Atheist. I was driving from the Christian religion while watching astronomy-related videos, and videos trying to dis-prove deities.

Do you think religion should be banned?


In a sense, yes.

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Postby Uelvan » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:37 pm

I don't try to talk about my religious beliefs too much here, but I am a Muslim. I believe, not because of any evidence, but because I want to.

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