NATION

PASSWORD

[PASSED] Commend NewTexas

A carefully preserved record of the most notable World Assembly debates.
User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

[PASSED] Commend NewTexas

Postby Emad » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:02 pm

Below is the draft of a resolution I eventually wish to submit in the Security Council. Just comment on your suggestions, positive or negative.
Note: This resolution has[u] been submitted!

The Security Council;

[u]Applauding
the objective of this council to recognize outstanding contribution by individual nations and regions to the international community;

Determined to ensure that NewTexas is recognized among those the council has seen fit to befit this honor before now;

Briefly noting this council has already seen fit to recognize the region of Texas, which achieved the great feats noted by this council as a direct result of the work undertaken by it's founder NewTexas, who essentially forged a community which has lasted almost ten years with Texas sitting at its helm;

Cognizant that Texas, was one of the earliest defender nations to emerge in the first days of raiding, and in partnership with The Bruce one of the first known defender treaty organizations was formed as a result, which successfully defended against the early raiding group known as "The Farkers" and has continued as a diplomatic treaty ever since now known as the Triumvirate and including The Heartland;

Noting that in the early years, Texas was heavily active on the field of furthering international relations, responsible for having hosted "The Texas Rodeo" and the "Texas Golf League" as but two examples of events arranged, organized and hosted by the Founder Delegate all for the purposes of promoting interaction and joviality within the international community it had begun to develop relations with;

Aware that the region of Texas has been appluaded for its creation of the NSSuite which includes the NSDossier, a tool for collating the statistics of the NationStates world on the behalf of- member nations, but considering it an affront not to recognize now the participation of NewTexas in it's development purely because it has been recognized on a regional scale;

Believing that the level of commitment NewTexas provides to the region it governs in respect of both promoting participation in the international community, actively and diligently representing the region of Texas within the World Assembly body, the commitment it provides to its own regional government itself, and the consistency it has provided in these respects for going on ten years, is indeed worthy of being noted as exceptional;

Further believing that for this esteemed Council to continue to overlook the nation of NewTexas as a deserving candidate would only serve to diminish the good work done until now;

Hereby,
Commends NewTexas
Last edited by Sedgistan on Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:54 am, edited 11 times in total.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Jamie Anumia
Senator
 
Posts: 3797
Founded: Feb 15, 2012
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Jamie Anumia » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:21 pm

You should fix the rules violations before even thinking of submitting this.

ACKNOWLEDGING the fact that NewTexas has been residing in one of NationStates' oldest regions shortly after the creation of the game, which only few nations have done;

Illegal under Rule 4 as you are referring to NS as a game, and proposals have to be written as in-character.

NOTING that NewTexas is the Regional WA Delegate of Texas and has been for more than 3800 consecutive days; making him one of the longest serving and most influential Delegates in NationStates;

Again, illegal under Rule 4, you cannot use pronouns such as 'him/her/his/her' to refer to a nation.

APPLAUDING the nations' contribution of creating NSDossier, a tool for collecting demographic statistics through gigabites of data and acting as a indispensable resource for players wanting to find obscure data;

Again. Illegal under Rule 4 as you are referring to players of the game itself.

FURTHER NOTING that NewTexas himself has created an exceptional off-site forum for Texas, holding more than 1,000 members and boasting a wide range of topics for its members to benefit from;

You may want to just remove this clause completely, as it most likely breaks Rule 4 since you are referring to a forum in a plainly electronic form. Also the term 'himself' is illegal under Rule 4, as you're referring to the player and not the nation, as I mentioned in regards to the second clause.

You may want to read over some of the stickied threads in order to assist in fixing the rule violations, and while I could be wrong, this proposal is, at least from my eyes, illegal.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:35 pm

Wow. I didn't realize there were so many mistakes. By the way, it's my first proposal, so there ought to be some mistakes. Anyways, I've edited it, so just check the edited copy for any other mistakes.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Jamie Anumia
Senator
 
Posts: 3797
Founded: Feb 15, 2012
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Jamie Anumia » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:41 pm

Emad wrote:Wow. I didn't realize there were so many mistakes. By the way, it's my first proposal, so there ought to be some mistakes. Anyways, I've edited it, so just check the edited copy for any other mistakes.

Regarding the forum clause, mentioning a forum in and itself isn't illegal but if you are using terms like 'topics', 'off-site forum' - then it becomes to be seen in an electronic form, which makes the mention illegal.

Anyway, I do not see any illegalities, now. Though one of the other Security Council regulars may see something I may have missed and may be able to offer more critique. Make sure not to rush your proposal, and take your time in perfecting it in order to prepare it best for any future potential submission.
Last edited by Jamie Anumia on Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:47 pm

Jamie Anumia wrote:
Emad wrote:Wow. I didn't realize there were so many mistakes. By the way, it's my first proposal, so there ought to be some mistakes. Anyways, I've edited it, so just check the edited copy for any other mistakes.

Regarding the forum clause, mentioning a forum in and itself isn't illegal but if you are using terms like 'topics', 'off-site forum' - then it becomes to be seen in an electronic form, which makes the mention illegal.

Anyway, I do not see any illegalities, now. Though one of the other Security Council regulars may see something I may have missed and may be able to offer more critique. Make sure not to rush your proposal, and take your time in perfecting it in order to prepare it best for any future potential submission.


Thanks for the advice. I just hope this thing goes through.

If it does, when should I submit it as a proposal?
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Mahaj
Senator
 
Posts: 4110
Founded: Dec 08, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Mahaj » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:34 pm

NewTexas has definitely done way more historical great stuff than is listed in this resolution.

I'll have to talk to a few people and get back.
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:18 pm

It's okay. I think it's good enough. I have a puppet nation in Texas and I already went over everything with its nations and NewTexas himself.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:29 pm

I'm going on vacation, so I'm going to submit this soon. Just give me any more tips quickly.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Studly Penguins
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 152
Founded: Jul 14, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Studly Penguins » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:33 am

Emad wrote:I'm going on vacation, so I'm going to submit this soon. Just give me any more tips quickly.



It is of our Delegation's great concern that you NOT rush this proposal. As I have read through this thread please allow sufficient time for others such as Mahaj to get back and give some input.

We support your work but we hope that you show some restraint and not submit your proposal too hastily.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:40 am

Studly Penguins wrote:
Emad wrote:I'm going on vacation, so I'm going to submit this soon. Just give me any more tips quickly.



It is of our Delegation's great concern that you NOT rush this proposal. As I have read through this thread please allow sufficient time for others such as Mahaj to get back and give some input.

We support your work but we hope that you show some restraint and not submit your proposal too hastily.


No problem. i just need some ideas from everybody.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Studly Penguins
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 152
Founded: Jul 14, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Studly Penguins » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:47 am

They will come in time my Friend

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:48 am

Studly Penguins wrote:They will come in time my Friend


Thanks for the support
:hug:
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
SkyDip
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1693
Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby SkyDip » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:43 am

Looks very good. This is certainly a worthy target.
Elias Thaddeus Greyjoy, WA Ambassador of SkyDip
Read my Guide to the Security Council, a comprehensive collection of history, tactics, and tips for the Security Council!


Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:55 am

SkyDip wrote:Looks very good. This is certainly a worthy target.


Why, thank you! No wonder you were commended.
8)
Last edited by Emad on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Chillax
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Jun 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Chillax » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:10 am

I'm not a WA nation, but this draft looks pretty good to me.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:11 am

Thank you very much!
:bow:
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Cerian Quilor
Senator
 
Posts: 3841
Founded: Mar 30, 2012
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Cerian Quilor » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:54 am

Does the TDF ever actually still...defend? Never heard of it actually doing any such thing in recent years.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:02 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:Does the TDF ever actually still...defend? Never heard of it actually doing any such thing in recent years.


Yes, it does. The TDF works hard to defend mainly Texas itself as well contributing to the protection of other regions. The creator and it's nations are still very active to this day.

If you have any questions about anything concerning Texas, just telegram NewTexas himself. After all, he is the founder.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Eist
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1194
Founded: May 10, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Eist » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:34 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:Does the TDF ever actually still...defend? Never heard of it actually doing any such thing in recent years.


Yes, they have at least regularly helped TITO on several occasions recently.
Unibot III wrote:Frankly, the lows that people sink to in this game is perhaps the most disturbing thing about NationStates Gameplay.

User avatar
United Federation of Canada
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1417
Founded: Oct 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Federation of Canada » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:03 am

Support wholeheartedly.

I can't believe this has not come up sooner, and I can't imagine a finer candidate.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:24 am

United Federation of Canada wrote:Support wholeheartedly.

I can't believe this has not come up sooner, and I can't imagine a finer candidate.


Thank you so much for supporting this.
:hug:
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Querria
Diplomat
 
Posts: 818
Founded: Mar 15, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Querria » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:01 pm

You could add me helps roleplayers too! As a personal example, he allows me to use the RP stats of his nation to help with my roleplaying. It's a big help for a newer NS roleplayer such as me since my nation's stats is augmented by his( for instance, this allows me to get into battles where other roleplayers are throwing millions of soldiers into a war). I think he is a selfless person even without mentioning what I just said though, and he definitely deserves a commendation!

User avatar
Nivian
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 23
Founded: Nov 21, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Nivian » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:16 pm

Eist wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:Does the TDF ever actually still...defend? Never heard of it actually doing any such thing in recent years.


Yes, they have at least regularly helped TITO on several occasions recently.

Okay. I stand corrected.

@Emad: If all you do is defend your home region, you're not 'defenders' (this is a general statement, rather than directed at the TDF specifically) and indeed, you're not really an army in true NS GP sense.

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:22 pm

Nivian wrote:
Eist wrote:
Yes, they have at least regularly helped TITO on several occasions recently.

Okay. I stand corrected.

@Emad: If all you do is defend your home region, you're not 'defenders' (this is a general statement, rather than directed at the TDF specifically) and indeed, you're not really an army in true NS GP sense.


We defend our region AND contribute to the defense of other regions too. As the quote says: "Yes, they have at least regularly helped TITO on several occasions". That, my friend, is referring to the Defense Forces of the 10000 Islands, an ally of Texas. That is solid and valid proof that we do take our time to defend regions, as said in the commendation.

I went through this proposal in other off-site forums, with NewTexas himself giving me legal advice on how to shape this proposal.
Come and visit the United Alliances

User avatar
Emad
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 118
Founded: Apr 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Emad » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:24 pm

Querria wrote:You could add me helps roleplayers too! As a personal example, he allows me to use the RP stats of his nation to help with my roleplaying. It's a big help for a newer NS roleplayer such as me since my nation's stats is augmented by his( for instance, this allows me to get into battles where other roleplayers are throwing millions of soldiers into a war). I think he is a selfless person even without mentioning what I just said though, and he definitely deserves a commendation!


Yes, NewTexas definitely deserved a commendation, so that's what I did.

Sorry, but I don't really understand your first sentence. Can you please verify that for me?
Come and visit the United Alliances

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to WA Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads