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Kansas GOP to legalize quarantine of HIV patients

Postby Hong Kong and Macau » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:49 am

http://americablog.com/2013/03/aids-quarantine-kansas-hiv.html

The Kansas legislature is about to empower the state to quarantine people with HIV and AIDS. The local Fox affiliate says the legislation is expected to become law in the next few weeks.


Yes, I am aware that the blog which this article is from is biased. However as an HIV+ American I guess I too am biased.

How would such a measure be constitutional? Why don't more law-makers understand that this is a clear violation of people's civil rights? HIV is not a communicable illness. The virus is only spread by certain bodily fluids, almost none of which are shared in the public.

Why then would a quarantine be necessary? If the nature of HIV was different, ie spread by saliva, tears, toilet seats, or mucus then perhaps I could understand.

There's also an issue which nations in the game routinely receive on what's called "VODAIS"... So I see a discussion about this topic as pertinent.

DO you support the efforts by Kansas law makers to ensure a quarantine on HIV+ individuals or those afflicted by AIDS? Should there be a nationwide imposed ban?

It seems to me that yes, quarantines on communicable illnesses during outbreak pandemics or possible biological terrorist attacks may make sense or would be sound public health policy. I fail to see how this concern for public safety could be within the realm of possibility in the thinking behind this piece of legislation...
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Postby Divair » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:50 am

What in the name of fuck is this? Are we going back to the Middle Ages? (or just South Africa, where if you shag a virgin HIV will disappear?) Seriously, what in the living fuck is this nonsense. This is about as ridiculous as jailing everyone who has a cold for a month because fuck freedom and common sense, they're going to infect us all!

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Postby Choronzon » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:50 am

*snort*

Yeah, good luck defending that one before a court.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:50 am

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Postby Gandoor » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:51 am

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Postby Individuality-ness » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:51 am

I'm going to go for the shark and say maybe it's their way to make LGBT second class citizens.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:52 am

Divair wrote:What in the name of fuck is this? Are we going back to the Middle Ages?

Worse than the middle ages This is Kansas. Super man is from there and he was considered the most scandalous person from the state.
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Postby Divair » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:54 am

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:For once a good idea from those corrupt arses.

Might sound like a good idea if you're a hermit from the 600's who thinks making people bleed will cure them of their sins or some other fucking nonsense along those lines. This is the type of authoritarian bullshit that the Constitution is meant to protect against, but apparently the GOP doesn't give a flying fuck about common sense and logic.

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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:54 am

What the fuck
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:55 am

This can't possibly hold up longer than a week.
Any sane Judge will overturn it immediately, or at the very least kick it upstairs to a higher court.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:55 am

Divair wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:For once a good idea from those corrupt arses.

Might sound like a good idea if you're a hermit from the 600's who thinks making people bleed will cure them of their sins or some other fucking nonsense along those lines. This is the type of authoritarian bullshit that the Constitution is meant to protect against, but apparently the GOP doesn't give a flying fuck about common sense and logic.

It's much easier to cure HIV if they are all put in the same place, and it would also reduce spread of the disease. I don't know what the GOP's idea of quarantine is, but to me it would be a great way of purifying the state.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:55 am

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:For once a good idea from those corrupt arses.


Oh, really? Really?

Because quarantining people who cannot spread the illness they carry through ordinary contact is such a sensible solution, you [redacted].
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Postby New Chalcedon » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:57 am

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Divair wrote:Might sound like a good idea if you're a hermit from the 600's who thinks making people bleed will cure them of their sins or some other fucking nonsense along those lines. This is the type of authoritarian bullshit that the Constitution is meant to protect against, but apparently the GOP doesn't give a flying fuck about common sense and logic.

It's much easier to cure HIV if they are all put in the same place, and it would also reduce spread of the disease. I don't know what the GOP's idea of quarantine is, but to me it would be a great way of purifying the state.


Now it's about "purification", huh?

You're talking like someone from "Stormfront".
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Northern Skatchbrod wrote:For once a good idea from those corrupt arses.

That fact that people like you exist is disgusting.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:58 am

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Divair wrote:Might sound like a good idea if you're a hermit from the 600's who thinks making people bleed will cure them of their sins or some other fucking nonsense along those lines. This is the type of authoritarian bullshit that the Constitution is meant to protect against, but apparently the GOP doesn't give a flying fuck about common sense and logic.

It's much easier to cure HIV if they are all put in the same place, and it would also reduce spread of the disease. I don't know what the GOP's idea of quarantine is, but to me it would be a great way of purifying the state.


In the event of a universal cure, physically transporting people and quarantining them someplace is much, much harder than delivering the cure to them.
It wouldn't be easier.

Also, HIV doesn't spread just from letting HIV patients wander around. The vast, VAST majority of cases are undiagnosed spreads.
Someone diagnosed with HIV isn't likely to spread it at all, since they take precautions. And if they do spread it, that's reckless endangerment and we quarantine them in a place called prison (some times.)
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New Chalcedon wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:It's much easier to cure HIV if they are all put in the same place, and it would also reduce spread of the disease. I don't know what the GOP's idea of quarantine is, but to me it would be a great way of purifying the state.


Now it's about "purification", huh?

You're talking like someone from "Stormfront".

It is.
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Postby Hong Kong and Macau » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:58 am

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ahf-kansas-law-allowing-quarantine-232700513.html

A little more objective source.

Seriously though, this type of legislation isn't about protecting people from contracting HIV, it's an attempt to demonize people who don't match up with the Neo-conservative religious Juedo-christian worldview.

Believe me, if I could make it so that not another person contracts HIV like me, then I wouldn't think twice at enacting such a policy...this isn't it though!

Guess what stops the spread of HIV?

Condoms, education, testing, anti-retroviral post exposure meds... Not quarantines and not abstinence indoctrination!
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Postby Divair » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:59 am

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Divair wrote:Might sound like a good idea if you're a hermit from the 600's who thinks making people bleed will cure them of their sins or some other fucking nonsense along those lines. This is the type of authoritarian bullshit that the Constitution is meant to protect against, but apparently the GOP doesn't give a flying fuck about common sense and logic.

It's much easier to cure HIV if they are all put in the same place, and it would also reduce spread of the disease. I don't know what the GOP's idea of quarantine is, but to me it would be a great way of purifying the state.

Your 1940's-esque idea of "purification" can go suck a cock. I don't care about "purification" nor about herding up people as if we're going to commit the 2nd Holocaust, only on HIV victims instead of mentally retarded folk. You can go suggest it in some fucked up cesspool like North Korea, perhaps, but not in any 1st world country where we give a fuck about rights and freedom, something that you've clearly taken for granted.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:59 am

New Chalcedon wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:It's much easier to cure HIV if they are all put in the same place, and it would also reduce spread of the disease. I don't know what the GOP's idea of quarantine is, but to me it would be a great way of purifying the state.


Now it's about "purification", huh?

You're talking like someone from "Stormfront".

Is HIV the latest persucuted class by white supremicists?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:59 am

I'm betting these people think HIV = The Gay
and think they are quarantining gay people.
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New Chalcedon wrote:I...I....I....

Fuck "conservatives". Really. It seems that US conservatism is incapable of seeing any little thing that might drag America kicking and screaming out of the 19th century without fighting it tooth and nail. Goddamned soulless hypocritical monsters.


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I shall put it plain and simple. These type of people must be stopped. And they will be. I just hope for the sake of all of us that they begin to see a little more reason sooner rather than later.
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