North Korea renders armistice null and void,cuts S.K Hotline

[Grenartia]

I think this could very well result in a war.

I'd be willing to bet that the North thinks that it very well could successfully take over the South. Yes, the North is aware that it would then have to face America, and won't have China to back it up. However, it could very well be the case that the North has itself deluded into thinking that it could take on the entire planet if it controlled the South. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part.

Personally, as somebody who's grandfather served in the Korean War, and as I am myself heavily considering a career in the military, I see a fair bit of poetic justice in that I could very well end up fighting where my grandfather once did.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Y'know, the sooner North Korea lets South Korea win, the sooner they can stop glaring across that immaginary demilitarized-zone and worry about how they're going to get rid of all those American Imperialists.

When it comes to communism, the only way to win is by losing gracefully like a champ.

Even Ghandi knew that.

[The God-Realm]

Slightly relevant.

Propaganda.

[Gallifra]

War is seeming inevitable. Diplomacy must still be the first option, but we must be ready for war. Maybe we can finally put an end to the suffering of 24 million people by a family of mentally ill, fat bastards.

[New Sapienta]

Slightly relevant.

Propaganda.

Yeah, okay

Not that I put much value with Deadliest Warrior, what with matchups like IRA vs. Spetznaz, it's not propganda. Pretty sure that U.S. Rnagers would win.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Propaganda.

Yeah, okay

Not that I put much value with Deadliest Warrior, what with matchups like IRA vs. Spetznaz, it's not propganda. Pretty sure that U.S. Rnagers would win.

Rnagers?

Were those the washout units?

[New Sapienta]

Yeah, okay

Not that I put much value with Deadliest Warrior, what with matchups like IRA vs. Spetznaz, it's not propganda. Pretty sure that U.S. Rnagers would win.

Rnagers?

Were those the washout units?

Yeah, the real badasses went to the Grammar Nazi Battalion.

[The God-Realm]

Propaganda.

Yeah, okay

Not that I put much value with Deadliest Warrior, what with matchups like IRA vs. Spetznaz, it's not propganda. Pretty sure that U.S. Rnagers would win.

Rnagers are shit, Rangers however.

[New Sapienta]

Yeah, okay

Not that I put much value with Deadliest Warrior, what with matchups like IRA vs. Spetznaz, it's not propganda. Pretty sure that U.S. Rnagers would win.

Rnagers are shit, Rangers however.

Yup, you already lost the race.

[Grand Britannia]

Slightly relevant.

Propaganda.

Rangers lead the way.

[The God-Realm]

Propaganda.

Rangers lead the way.

No Dear Pudgy Leader does.

[Grand Britannia]

Rangers lead the way.

No Dear Pudgy Leader does.

Why you call Kimmy fat?

[The Emerald Dawn]

No Dear Pudgy Leader does.

Why you call Kimmy fat?

Because the ass was fat.

[The God-Realm]

No Dear Pudgy Leader does.

Why you call Kimmy fat?

Not fat, pleasingly pudgy.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Not currently. Give it 10 more years and China will execute Kim Jong Un and company.

But by that time NK. will be a US allie. Yes, in politics anything can happen.

Yes but it's highly likely that as China gets more and more capitalistic it would be more interested in technologically advanced nations like South Korea that pose no military threat then a hellhole ruled by a guy who's age is a state secret.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

This might explain the NK server hiccup from a few days ago that got mentioned here:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/14/world/asi ... hpt=hp_bn2

[United States of Raptors]

For anyone who wanted to know what Kim Jong-Un looked like well we have a good guess at what he looks like, click to see. Warning: the picture involved may be ugly as hell and the title of the page is Korean for stupid aggressive lunatic which coincidentally could describe Kim Jong-Un completely.

[New Libertarian States]

For anyone who wanted to know what Kim Jong-Un looked like well we have a good guess at what he looks like, click to see. Warning: the picture involved may be ugly as hell and the title of the page is Korean for stupid aggressive lunatic which coincidentally could describe Kim Jong-Un completely.

Lol

[Divair]

North Korea is telling people on islands in South Korea to run away.

[Arumdaum]

For anyone who wanted to know what Kim Jong-Un looked like well we have a good guess at what he looks like, click to see. Warning: the picture involved may be ugly as hell and the title of the page is Korean for stupid aggressive lunatic which coincidentally could describe Kim Jong-Un completely.

Actually, the title means "he/she/it is bullshitting."

[Fintanland]

I'd be willing to bet that the North thinks that it very well could successfully take over the South. Yes, the North is aware that it would then have to face America, and won't have China to back it up. However, it could very well be the case that the North has itself deluded into thinking that it could take on the entire planet if it controlled the South. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part.

I do not think the North Korean leadership is as crazy as it appears to be. Much of it is deliberate propaganda, a sort of NK take on that old asshole Kissinger's good old "Madman Strategy". They have more access to accurate information than their people, and profit from a constant state of war. Better to keep your people in a 1984-style perma-war than to risk everything on a big gamble.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

I think this could very well result in a war.

I'd be willing to bet that the North thinks that it very well could successfully take over the South. Yes, the North is aware that it would then have to face America, and won't have China to back it up. However, it could very well be the case that the North has itself deluded into thinking that it could take on the entire planet if it controlled the South. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part.

Personally, as somebody who's grandfather served in the Korean War, and as I am myself heavily considering a career in the military, I see a fair bit of poetic justice in that I could very well end up fighting where my grandfather once did.

I seriously doubt it. Here's my evidence, if you're interested.

[Grenartia]

I'd be willing to bet that the North thinks that it very well could successfully take over the South. Yes, the North is aware that it would then have to face America, and won't have China to back it up. However, it could very well be the case that the North has itself deluded into thinking that it could take on the entire planet if it controlled the South. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part.

I do not think the North Korean leadership is as crazy as it appears to be. Much of it is deliberate propaganda, a sort of NK take on that old asshole Kissinger's good old "Madman Strategy". They have more access to accurate information than their people, and profit from a constant state of war. Better to keep your people in a 1984-style perma-war than to risk everything on a big gamble.

I never read 1984. But I do have a passing familiarity with the Madman Strategy.

However, at some point in NK's chain of command, it is very possible that somebody in the chain of command will order a unilateral attack.

I think this could very well result in a war.

I'd be willing to bet that the North thinks that it very well could successfully take over the South. Yes, the North is aware that it would then have to face America, and won't have China to back it up. However, it could very well be the case that the North has itself deluded into thinking that it could take on the entire planet if it controlled the South. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part.

Personally, as somebody who's grandfather served in the Korean War, and as I am myself heavily considering a career in the military, I see a fair bit of poetic justice in that I could very well end up fighting where my grandfather once did.

I seriously doubt it. Here's my evidence, if you're interested.

I can see where you're coming from. I really can. However, I think NK thinks it has a lot to gain from a swift takeover of the South. After all, too many people are STILL starving in NK, much like they were in the 90's, when you said the threat of war was greatest. And with NK's recent nuclear test, and a demonstrated ability to at least hit Japan, one EMP could conceivably knock out much of the capable resistance to NK forces.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

I can see where you're coming from. I really can. However, I think NK thinks it has a lot to gain from a swift takeover of the South. After all, too many people are STILL starving in NK, much like they were in the 90's, when you said the threat of war was greatest. And with NK's recent nuclear test, and a demonstrated ability to at least hit Japan, one EMP could conceivably knock out much of the capable resistance to NK forces.

For one, I think the extent and consistency of North Korean starvation is well over-stated. As I argued here, poverty in North Korea has improved significantly since the nineties, and is more-or-less consistent with levels seen in other developing countries. Furthermore, the increasing influx of Chinese investors, bringing with them infrastructural and economic development, is another change in the landscape from the nineties, and not something that North Korea is keen to lose.

As I noted in the other post, the regime has often been a calculating, well-informed and risk-averse actor. At the moment, although it is pushing the bounds of what it thinks it can get away with (in order, I think, to force the international community's hand on its nuclear programme), and is maybe over-stepping them, I do not see any indications of a real desire for conflict.

What do you think North Korea would gain from it?

[Grenartia]

I can see where you're coming from. I really can. However, I think NK thinks it has a lot to gain from a swift takeover of the South. After all, too many people are STILL starving in NK, much like they were in the 90's, when you said the threat of war was greatest. And with NK's recent nuclear test, and a demonstrated ability to at least hit Japan, one EMP could conceivably knock out much of the capable resistance to NK forces.

For one, I think the extent and consistency of North Korean starvation is well over-stated. As I argued here, poverty in North Korea has improved significantly since the nineties, and is more-or-less consistent with levels seen in other developing countries. Furthermore, the increasing influx of Chinese investors, bringing with them infrastructural and economic development, is another change in the landscape from the nineties, and not something that North Korea is keen to lose.

As I noted in the other post, the regime has often been a calculating, well-informed and risk-averse actor. At the moment, although it is pushing the bounds of what it thinks it can get away with (in order, I think, to force the international community's hand on its nuclear programme), and is maybe over-stepping them, I do not see any indications of a real desire for conflict.

What do you think North Korea would gain from it?

Ultimately, unification of Korea.