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Which Western European/Western Hemisphere Government Structure is the Best?

United States
53
30%
Great Britain
16
9%
France
8
5%
Germany
7
4%
Switzerland
29
16%
Sweden
27
15%
Italy
2
1%
Spain
6
3%
Other
28
16%
 
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Best Western Government?

Postby Robonic » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:57 pm

Which Western (European/Hemisphere) Government structure is the best and/or works the most efficiently in theory and in practice?

EDIT: Because of the extreme outpouring for Switzerland and Sweden I have added them as separate options in the poll to get more accurate results. You may change your vote from "other" if you meant to select Switzerland or Sweden.

IF YOU VOTED IN THE ORIGINAL POLL PLEASE RE-SUBMIT YOUR ANSWERS.
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Postby Tunizcha » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:01 pm

Switzerland or Sweden.
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Postby N3wgr0unds » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:02 pm

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Postby The chrisman union » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:03 pm

No government can be seen as the 'best'. Each has good qualities, though each has bad qualities that cannot make it the best. Though if I had to pick, I'd say France, just because I like france.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:03 pm

Tunizcha wrote:Switzerland or Sweden.

^^This.
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Postby Robonic » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:05 pm

The chrisman union wrote:No government can be seen as the 'best'. Each has good qualities, though each has bad qualities that cannot make it the best. Though if I had to pick, I'd say France, just because I like france.


"Best" is a personal/opinionated qualifier. Each person has a bias, and that bias would in turn label it as "best".

EDIT: Even though I am an American citizen, I would vote Germany. I find their system of federalism very well balanced, and the voting process for admittance to the Bundestag is a benchmark of representative democracy (party voting = proportionate representation in the legislature)
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Postby WhatchaTalkinBout » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:05 pm

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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:07 pm

I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...

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Postby Allrule » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:08 pm

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Postby Robonic » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:09 pm

Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


Do you not find France's government rather tumultuous and prone to restructure too easily? A country cannot run efficiently if the government may be ousted at any time in a vote of "no confidence". Your president is too afraid of being ousted for unpopular agendas to really ever get anything done.

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Postby H N Fiddlebottoms VIII » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:09 pm

Tunizcha wrote:Switzerland or Sweden.

In Sweden the streets are too clean, it is kind of scary. So I can't vote for them. Because they're scary, Swedish robot people.

I vote for Britain. British political dramas tend to be more interesting than their counterparts in other countries, and I kind of wish America had an official royal family so I could bitch and moan about America having an official royal family. Really, I think that it would be a great thing to be perpetually angry and borderline treasonous about.
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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:10 pm

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Postby WhatchaTalkinBout » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:10 pm

Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


But look at all the countries we liberated!

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Zeppy on if the energy crisis is still a problem:
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Jimmy Carter destroy America with boring books and malaise.
Yes, it is.


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Postby Zeppy » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:12 pm

Switzerland or the USA!

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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:14 pm

WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


But look at all the countries we liberated!

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Since when did USA liberate Greece?!

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Postby Robonic » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:15 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


But look at all the countries we liberated!

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Since when did USA liberate Greece?!


Don't you remember? The pass at Thermopylae was held by 300 Spar-...US Marines! 8)

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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:18 pm

Robonic wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


But look at all the countries we liberated!

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Since when did USA liberate Greece?!


Don't you remember? The pass at Thermopylae was held by 300 Spar-...US Marines! 8)

OOoooh, I remember now. But... the US marines suck, because they all died! Ha ha!

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Postby WhatchaTalkinBout » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:19 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
Robonic wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


But look at all the countries we liberated!

Image

Since when did USA liberate Greece?!


Don't you remember? The pass at Thermopylae was held by 300 Spar-...US Marines! 8)

OOoooh, I remember now. But... the US marines suck, because they all died! Ha ha!


OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
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Me? Powerful?

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Goldsaver on my response to a Palin/Beck 2012 campaign:
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Zeppy on if the energy crisis is still a problem:
Zeppy wrote:Jimmy Carter mad at America.
Jimmy Carter destroy America with boring books and malaise.
Yes, it is.


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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:20 pm

WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
Robonic wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I voted France, it seems to be rather efficient, and responds well to crises...US comes close but our intense partisanship tends to drag us down...


But look at all the countries we liberated!

Image

Since when did USA liberate Greece?!


Don't you remember? The pass at Thermopylae was held by 300 Spar-...US Marines! 8)

OOoooh, I remember now. But... the US marines suck, because they all died! Ha ha!


OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

Oh yeah, I did it.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:21 pm

Jamaica.

Why is Jamaica never a poll choice? :(
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Postby The chrisman union » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:21 pm

WhatchaTalkinBout wrote:USA! USA!


No, no, no, no, NO! I'm going to attract a metric ton of flame here, but the US's government isn't the best. If you get sick, and you don't pay insurance companies, they will leave you to die. Sure, private health care is apparently 'better' than universal healthcare, but only if you can afford it. If you're unemployed, you're screwed in America. What sort of country can be seen to have the best government if it leaves people to die over matters of money?
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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:22 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Jamaica.

Why is Jamaica never a poll choice? :(

Because they be taking my stuff an ting...

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Postby Monte Mare » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:25 pm

Switzerland...

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Postby Whiskey Hill » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:25 pm

I voted for Germany because of the structure of their state, since that is the government, but Denmark and Sweden have better policies. The best.

Basic problems with the US:
1. Undemocratic Senate
2. First past the post, single member districts create two party system
3. Electoral college
4. Nobody cares about the constitution, even while we fetishize the founders.
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Postby Robonic » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:27 pm

Whiskey Hill wrote:I voted for Germany because of the structure of their state, since that is the government, but Denmark and Sweden have better policies. The best.

Basic problems with the US:
1. Undemocratic Senate
2. First past the post, single member districts create two party system
3. Electoral college
4. Nobody cares about the constitution, even while we fetishize the founders.


agreed.

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