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Do you believe Afro americans deserve reparations

Yes they have been wronged over the years and they deserve more than an apology
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8%
No cause it will serve no purpose or do no right
177
83%
Other(Plz explain)
19
9%
 
Total votes : 214

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Jello Biafra
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Postby Jello Biafra » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:59 am

Free Soviets wrote:
Zandan wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:If this was the case then blacks would be proportionately represented in the middle class, upper middle class, and upper class.


Could you please provide a reference that says they aren't?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_ ... tates#Race

Thank you, FS.

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Carlitonia
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Postby Carlitonia » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:00 am

ITT:

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Surote
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Postby Surote » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:12 pm

-bump-

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F1-Insanity
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Postby F1-Insanity » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:19 pm

Surote wrote:-bump-


:rofl:
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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:25 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:Affirmative action (aka the 'new' racism) and welfare have more than compensated for the 'wrongs'.

If this was the case then blacks would be proportionately represented in the middle class, upper middle class, and upper class.

No they wouldn't, if anything those programs keep them from reaching the top, if you can get a job just because you are black why should you work harder?

Jello Biafra wrote:
Not our fault many African-Americans cannot be bothered to work hard in school and get into university.

Given the poor state of schools for many blacks, is this really surprising? How could they get into university when their schools are underfunded and underresourced?

Still there are many minorities from terrible schools who are successful, look at Thomas Sowell, and Sonya Sotamayor, they went to crappy "ghetto" schools yet they are wealthy, well known people.

Jello Biafra wrote:
This 'racism' doesn't seem to have stopped Asian-Americans who are significantly overrepresented in universities.

Right. Because if you don't hate Asians, you can't be racist.

His point is that if they were going to succeed, than they would have overcome racial adversity without the government's help just like the Asian Americans, Italian Americans, and Irish Americans.
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Milks Empire
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Postby Milks Empire » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:27 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:His point is that if they were going to succeed, than they would have overcome racial adversity without the government's help just like the Asian Americans, Italian Americans, and Irish Americans.

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Tokos
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Postby Tokos » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:30 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:His point is that if they were going to succeed, than they would have overcome racial adversity without the government's help just like the Asian Americans, Italian Americans, and Irish Americans.

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None of them were ever regarded as property.
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Irish indentured workers were less valuable than negro slaves. Slaves cost money. Wouldn't send them on dangerous swamp-clearing jobs.
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