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How do you feel about the teen suicides?

I sympathize with them. They are put under enormous stress and shown little compassion and see a mean world in front of them. There needs to be much more awareness of this issue and more prevention.
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I say we ignore it, they are isolated events and not common.
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Teens are uncable of understanding their actions and think of of suicide in a glamorous way and think that it will make everyting okay. It is casused by immaturity. These kids are complaining about nothing.
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Other opinion
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Postby Nercer - » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:26 am

I am 16 and have recently taken great interest in youth rights and awareness. I had largely forgotten about it for a week until I saw a news article about a town in California having a number of adolescent suicides.

Here is the article: http://news.aol.com/article/teen-suicid ... lto/745774

I kinda got to thinking that I understand why they feel it is the only option. I mean this is America: the economy is crumbling; their parents are losing their homes, job, cars, they're being to try harder than is possible to succeed and go onto collage, their parents are divorcing in ever larger numbers, there are wars going on everywhere, the poverty rate is increasing, they see no future in a world like this, the state governments keep making the education system even harder and their problems are largely ignored in favor of "real-world" adult problems. So I created this poll to get the average person's opinion on this matter.

Thanks!

BTW, I AM ANTI-SUICIDE.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:28 am

No sympathy.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:28 am

People do it for different reasons at various ages, trying to find out an all encompassing reason, or for some even a reason at all, is an exercise in futility...

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Postby Soratsin » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:30 am

99% of the people I went to high school with couldn't name the governor of our state, and thought that Iraq was a part of Australia. I don't think the actions of the government are to blame for teen suicide, because most teens don't seem to care much about politics...in my experience. Teen suicides occur primarily because people are dicks, especially during adolescence.
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Postby Brutland and Norden » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:31 am

If ever I'm going to commit suicide, I'd ensure I'd die so I won't become a burden to other people.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:31 am

Well, it is true that for lots of younger people (<20) this is the first real economical crisis they see. The struggling 70s and 80s they obviously never witnessed, combine this with the usual troubles of young people and a slight raise in suicides is almost only logical.
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Postby Nercer - » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:32 am

Soratsin wrote:99% of the people I went to high school with couldn't name the governor of our state, and thought that Iraq was a part of Australia. I don't think the actions of the government are to blame for teen suicide, because most teens don't seem to care much about politics...in my experience. Teen suicides occur primarily because people are dicks, especially during adolescence.


I said it was one reason, not the only one.
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Postby The Movie of the Book » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:33 am

From what I read on the subject when I was feeling suicidal, people tend to kill themselves for lot of reasons. The one that resonated with me the most was the feeling that death solves your problems.

And it does. Once you're dead, you don't have any problems.

You also don't have anything else, but that's almost trivial. Once you make the decision to kill yourself there's an intense sense of relief, where you don't have to worry anymore, because it'll all be over soon.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:33 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:Well, it is true that for lots of younger people (<20) this is the first real economical crisis they see. The struggling 70s and 80s they obviously never witnessed, combine this with the usual troubles of young people and a slight raise in suicides is almost only logical.

Meh, the 70s and 80s were no different in Mississippi than normal...same as now..I dont think the poverty level has changed around here since about 1870, :lol:

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Postby Brutland and Norden » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:38 am

The Movie of the Book wrote:From what I read on the subject when I was feeling suicidal, people tend to kill themselves for lot of reasons. The one that resonated with me the most was the feeling that death solves your problems.

And it does. Once you're dead, you don't have any problems.

You also don't have anything else, but that's almost trivial. Once you make the decision to kill yourself there's an intense sense of relief, where you don't have to worry anymore, because it'll all be over soon.

Unless, of course, the attempt botched and you cannot eat or drink because you drank too little bleach, or that you're blinded because the bullet missed your brain and instead passed through your orbits.
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Postby Northern Delmarva » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:40 am

Brutland and Norden wrote:
The Movie of the Book wrote:From what I read on the subject when I was feeling suicidal, people tend to kill themselves for lot of reasons. The one that resonated with me the most was the feeling that death solves your problems.

And it does. Once you're dead, you don't have any problems.

You also don't have anything else, but that's almost trivial. Once you make the decision to kill yourself there's an intense sense of relief, where you don't have to worry anymore, because it'll all be over soon.

Unless, of course, the attempt botched and you cannot eat or drink because you drank too little bleach, or that you're blinded because the bullet missed your brain and instead passed through your orbits.


And there's always mourning family and friends.

But who cares about their feelings? You're the one that is up to their neck in "problems", right?

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Postby The Movie of the Book » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:41 am

Brutland and Norden wrote:
The Movie of the Book wrote:From what I read on the subject when I was feeling suicidal, people tend to kill themselves for lot of reasons. The one that resonated with me the most was the feeling that death solves your problems.

And it does. Once you're dead, you don't have any problems.

You also don't have anything else, but that's almost trivial. Once you make the decision to kill yourself there's an intense sense of relief, where you don't have to worry anymore, because it'll all be over soon.

Unless, of course, the attempt botched and you cannot eat or drink because you drank too little bleach, or that you're blinded because the bullet missed your brain and instead passed through your orbits.


True, but slightly beside the point, because you aren't thinking about how it might fail. You're almost not thinking at all, you're just... serene gives the wrong connotations, but it's the word that fits.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:42 am

Maurepas wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Well, it is true that for lots of younger people (<20) this is the first real economical crisis they see. The struggling 70s and 80s they obviously never witnessed, combine this with the usual troubles of young people and a slight raise in suicides is almost only logical.

Meh, the 70s and 80s were no different in Mississippi than normal...same as now..I dont think the poverty level has changed around here since about 1870, :lol:


I think they have on average more TVs now than in 1870 ;) It is more that the 90s were quite good and the 2000s didn't really hurt either until 2008 really, at least, that's the case over here :)
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Postby Takaram » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:47 am

Soratsin wrote:99% of the people I went to high school with couldn't name the governor of our state, and thought that Iraq was a part of Australia. I don't think the actions of the government are to blame for teen suicide, because most teens don't seem to care much about politics...in my experience. Teen suicides occur primarily because people are dicks, especially during adolescence.


^ This. I know only a couple of people who are truly worldly in my school, and they seem to be the happy ones.

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Postby Valtamia » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:51 am

as a 13 year old it doesn't surprise me. kids at school swear at each other and treat each other like dirt. In the videos they show us, just tell, but not when you will be bullied for being a snitch. Its because of the parents of bullies, they are usually elitest, ignorant, entitled jerk offs.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:05 am

Nercer - wrote:I kinda got to thinking that I understand why they feel it is the only option. I mean this is America: the economy is crumbling; their parents are losing their homes, job, cars, they're being to try harder than is possible to succeed and go onto collage, their parents are divorcing in ever larger numbers, there are wars going on everywhere, the poverty rate is increasing, they see no future in a world like this, the state governments keep making the education system even harder and their problems are largely ignored in favor of "real-world" adult problems. So I created this poll to get the average person's opinion on this matter.


It seems to me that you would have to be pretty silly to kill yourself over your parent's problems. I realize that they do affect you, but when my parents were going through tough times, I always wanted to help them out, not take myself out (and this coming from someone predisposed to depression and suicide). I'd also like to note that a large segment of the population doesn't have to worry about those things, because they don't even have them to begin with- yet those people seem to be the least likely to commit suicide.

I think, its generally a social issue for teens at that age, they feel worthless because much is expected of them (or, thats how they see it), yet the things they must accomplish may be a long ways off, meanwhile they don't have a life, no friends, etc.
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Postby Nercer - » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:06 am

Well, 46% percent of you care about other peoples' problems, so . . . you 46% are good people.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:07 am

It's something a lot of people think about and end up doing.

Under great mental stress, I can see reasons as to why they would--I've thought of it myself while I was under such stress.
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Postby Yootopia » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:07 am

Valtamia wrote:as a 13 year old it doesn't surprise me. kids at school swear at each other and treat each other like dirt.

And so do adults. Have to break the young in in terms of how Other People Can Be Arseholes If They're Having A Terrible Day at some point, you know.

Anyway, can't say I particularly sympathise with most people who top themselves, and I have even less sympathy for those who repeatedly do minor damage to themselves by cutting across the street rather than up the stairs and the like, largely because they are often just whiny attention whores who grow out of it when they get into a decent relationship.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:07 am

Valtamia wrote:as a 13 year old it doesn't surprise me. kids at school swear at each other and treat each other like dirt. In the videos they show us, just tell, but not when you will be bullied for being a snitch. Its because of the parents of bullies, they are usually elitest, ignorant, entitled jerk offs.

The trick is to not give a damn, and smartass back, ;)

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Postby Takaram » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:08 am

Nercer - wrote:Well, 46% percent of you care about other peoples' problems, so . . . you 46% are good people.


No, 46% of us think that society should be blamed for teenage angst. I think that teenagers don't care enough about the real world, and should start realizing that life doesn't suck.

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Postby Yootopia » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:12 am

Nercer - wrote:Well, 46% percent of you care about other peoples' problems, so . . . you 46% are good people.

wtf are you talking about -_-

Just because I think that a lot of people who cut their wrists or whatever are to be ignored so they grow out of it doesn't mean I don't care about their problems, all it means is that there are much better solutions to whatever's going on than kill yourself, which is a bit much, or 'trying' and just making everyone disappointed in you for being so vain.
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Postby Nercer - » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:16 am

I disagree with suicide too, I'm just saying that I understand what they think. Btw, some of them have it worse than you could imagine and it's selfish to think otherwise.

I have known attention seeking whinners who complain about nothing, but some do have serious issues. :p
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Postby Nercer - » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:17 am

Takaram wrote:
Nercer - wrote:Well, 46% percent of you care about other peoples' problems, so . . . you 46% are good people.


No, 46% of us think that society should be blamed for teenage angst. I think that teenagers don't care enough about the real world, and should start realizing that life doesn't suck.


Btw, life does suck. These people are taking it to the extreme, but yeah, life sucks ass.
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Postby Yootopia » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:20 am

Nercer - wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Nercer - wrote:Well, 46% percent of you care about other peoples' problems, so . . . you 46% are good people.


No, 46% of us think that society should be blamed for teenage angst. I think that teenagers don't care enough about the real world, and should start realizing that life doesn't suck.


Btw, life does suck. These people are taking it to the extreme, but yeah, life sucks ass.

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