Religion: Is it on the way out?

[Normandywe]

Darwin believed that religion is an ancient tribal survival strategy; Freud believed it to be a mental illness; Hugo felt it was a trend that shall pass.
In the late 1800's, Max Weber noted that the world was being 'disenchanted' by rationalism and intellectualism--religion is an outdated opium that shall be extinguished by rational thought. One statistic I saw, formulated just recently, predicts that Christianity shall lose its position as the power of belief in the world, falling below atheism, sometime during the middle of this century. It can only be hoped that I live long enough to see the collapse of religion.

[Conserative Morality]

Darwin believed that religion is an ancient tribal survival strategy; Freud believed it to be a mental illness; Hugo felt it was a trend that shall pass.
In the late 1800's, Max Weber noted that the world was being 'disenchanted' by rationalism and intellectualism--religion is an outdated opium that shall be extinguished by rational thought. One statistic I saw, formulated just recently, predicts that Christianity shall lose its position as the power of belief in the world, falling below atheism, sometime during the middle of this century. It can only be hoped that I live long enough to see the collapse of religion.

Where would the fun be if religion collapsed?

[The USOT]

Darwin believed that religion is an ancient tribal survival strategy; Freud believed it to be a mental illness; Hugo felt it was a trend that shall pass.
In the late 1800's, Max Weber noted that the world was being 'disenchanted' by rationalism and intellectualism--religion is an outdated opium that shall be extinguished by rational thought. One statistic I saw, formulated just recently, predicts that Christianity shall lose its position as the power of belief in the world, falling below atheism, sometime during the middle of this century. It can only be hoped that I live long enough to see the collapse of religion.

Where would the fun be if religion collapsed?

Spaaaaaaaaaace!

[Conserative Morality]

Spaaaaaaaaaace!

The Great Lord Xenu is no fun to debate; he has no sense of humor.

[The USOT]

Spaaaaaaaaaace!

The Great Lord Xenu is no fun to debate; he has no sense of humor.

I dont know. He had a fair showing in South Park

[Sulamalik]

Darwin believed that religion is an ancient tribal survival strategy; Freud believed it to be a mental illness; Hugo felt it was a trend that shall pass.
In the late 1800's, Max Weber noted that the world was being 'disenchanted' by rationalism and intellectualism--religion is an outdated opium that shall be extinguished by rational thought. One statistic I saw, formulated just recently, predicts that Christianity shall lose its position as the power of belief in the world, falling below atheism, sometime during the middle of this century. It can only be hoped that I live long enough to see the collapse of religion.

Insha'Allah, insha'Allah.

Edit: Because the Western intellectual narrative is the only one worth paying attention to.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Darwin believed that religion is an ancient tribal survival strategy; Freud believed it to be a mental illness; Hugo felt it was a trend that shall pass.
In the late 1800's, Max Weber noted that the world was being 'disenchanted' by rationalism and intellectualism--religion is an outdated opium that shall be extinguished by rational thought. One statistic I saw, formulated just recently, predicts that Christianity shall lose its position as the power of belief in the world, falling below atheism, sometime during the middle of this century. It can only be hoped that I live long enough to see the collapse of religion.

Insha'Allah, insha'Allah.

Edit: Because the Western intellectual narrative is the only one worth paying attention to.

Hah! Good point.

Seriously, considering the fact that atheists and agnostics are such a minority compared to those who at least give token recognition to some sort of concept of deity (often in the face of massive evidence contradicting whatever their beliefs may be), I can only assume for now that the need to believe is a near-constant for humanity, whatever the reasons may be.

[Normandywe]

Darwin believed that religion is an ancient tribal survival strategy; Freud believed it to be a mental illness; Hugo felt it was a trend that shall pass.
In the late 1800's, Max Weber noted that the world was being 'disenchanted' by rationalism and intellectualism--religion is an outdated opium that shall be extinguished by rational thought. One statistic I saw, formulated just recently, predicts that Christianity shall lose its position as the power of belief in the world, falling below atheism, sometime during the middle of this century. It can only be hoped that I live long enough to see the collapse of religion.

Insha'Allah, insha'Allah.

Edit: Because the Western intellectual narrative is the only one worth paying attention to.

I see, then, that you have no actual point to be made here.

[Sulamalik]

Insha'Allah, insha'Allah.

Edit: Because the Western intellectual narrative is the only one worth paying attention to.

I see, then, that you have no actual point to be made here.

I'm critiquing your approach, not your conclusion.

[Normandywe]

I see, then, that you have no actual point to be made here.

I'm critiquing your approach, not your conclusion.

I see. Although I am content with both, I appreciate your input.

[Czechanada]

I see, then, that you have no actual point to be made here.

I'm critiquing your approach, not your conclusion.

Then what approach would you offer?

[Sulamalik]

I'm critiquing your approach, not your conclusion.

Then what approach would you offer?

One that acknowledges that non-Europeans can think.

[Normandywe]

Then what approach would you offer?

One that acknowledges that non-Europeans can think.

Non-Europeans are capable of thinking, that is not being denied--it just happens that Europeans developed modern biology, sociology, neurology, and various other disciplines related to understanding humans, and it is most easy and effective to reference them.

[Sulamalik]

One that acknowledges that non-Europeans can think.

Non-Europeans can think, it just happens that Europeans developed modern biology, sociology, neurology, and various other disciplines related to understanding humans, and it is most comfortable and effective to reference them.

Yes, all societies develop in a vacuum.

Moving away from my petty sarcasm, I'd be nice when your talking about religion on a global scale to, y'know, actually talk about it on a global scale.

Also, euro-centric thinking has never been a particular virtue in anthropology IIRC.

[Normandywe]

Non-Europeans can think, it just happens that Europeans developed modern biology, sociology, neurology, and various other disciplines related to understanding humans, and it is most comfortable and effective to reference them.

Yes, all societies develop in a vacuum.

Moving away from my petty sarcasm, I'd be nice when your talking about religion on a global scale to, y'know, actually talk about it on a global scale.

Also, euro-centric thinking has never been a particular virtue in anthropology IIRC.

If I knew of significant developments in such fields by non-Europeans, I would be just as keen to speak of them, and your sarcasm was unnecessary for it holds no value.
It is stunning that this somehow evades you even now, as I never deliberately intended to reference only Europeans.

Interestingly enough, the field of anthropology itself has been most well developed by Europeans.
>Franz Boas

[Xathranaar]

Where would the fun be if religion collapsed?

Spaaaaaaaaaace!

[Sulamalik]

Yes, all societies develop in a vacuum.

Moving away from my petty sarcasm, I'd be nice when your talking about religion on a global scale to, y'know, actually talk about it on a global scale.

If I knew of significant developments in such fields by non-Europeans, I would be just as keen to speak of them, and your sarcasm was unnecessary for it holds no value.

Just looking at religions, their growth and decline, beyond the artificial boundaries of Europe would be super awesome.

[Normandywe]

If I knew of significant developments in such fields by non-Europeans, I would be just as keen to speak of them, and your sarcasm was unnecessary for it holds no value.

Just looking at religion beyond the artificial boundaries of Europe would be super awesome.

That was never my point to begin with, and it's odd that you should think that way.

[The USOT]

If I knew of significant developments in such fields by non-Europeans, I would be just as keen to speak of them, and your sarcasm was unnecessary for it holds no value.

Just looking at religions, their growth and decline, beyond the artificial boundaries of Europe would be super awesome.

Ok. Religions from the rest of the world also suck! Equality everyone!

[Sulamalik]

Just looking at religions, their growth and decline, beyond the artificial boundaries of Europe would be super awesome.

Ok. Religions from the rest of the world also suck! Equality everyone!

Thank you, we like to get shout outs every now and again

[The USOT]

Ok. Religions from the rest of the world also suck! Equality everyone!

Thank you, we like to get shout outs every now and again

Back on topic, I was under the impression that atheism is becoming more common globaly (whilst of course more so in the west, there are significant yet supressed atheist movements in the middle east).

[Genivaria]

Thank you, we like to get shout outs every now and again

Back on topic, I was under the impression that atheism is becoming more common globaly (whilst of course more so in the west, there are significant yet supressed atheist movements in the middle east).

The Atheist European Union should build a wall on the eastern Turkish border to keep the evil Mus..........and WOW now I feel like one of the Religious Right pundits.

[Sulamalik]

Just looking at religion beyond the artificial boundaries of Europe would be super awesome.

That was never my point to begin with, and it's odd that you should think that way.

I'm pretty sure you're point was saying how religion( I assume not just Christianity) was on the decline.

All I was trying to get across was that some evidence for that goes beyond Europe would be cool.

[Normandywe]

Thank you, we like to get shout outs every now and again

Back on topic, I was under the impression that atheism is becoming more common globaly (whilst of course more so in the west, there are significant yet supressed atheist movements in the middle east).

Naturally, of course, disbelief in a deity is very popular in East Asian countries (China, Mongolia, Japan, Korea, Vietnam).

[Sulamalik]

Back on topic, I was under the impression that atheism is becoming more common globaly (whilst of course more so in the west, there are significant yet supressed atheist movements in the middle east).

Naturally, of course, disbelief in a deity is very popular in East Asian countries (China, Mongolia, Japan, Korea, Vietnam).

Thank you, I appreciate the inclusivity.

Now let's all ignore me and go back to the actual topic!