Taxes are theft

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.

theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.

Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.

TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP

In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.

Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3

Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.

Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.

[Thafoo]

If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.

theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.

Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.

TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP

In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.

Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3

Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.

Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.

If someone steals your ball, theft.

If someone takes your money and spends it on valuable public service, not theft.

[Divair]

If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.

theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.

Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.

TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP

In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.

Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3

Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.

Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.

If someone steals your ball, theft.

If someone takes your money and spends it on valuable public service, not theft.

If you consent by living here, not theft. Just like paying rent.

End thread.

[Tyrants]

If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.

theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.

Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.

TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP

In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.

Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3

Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.

Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.

Take the government to court. I'll sit here and see how it goes. *grabs popcorn and 3D specs*

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.

theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.

Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.

TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP

In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.

Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3

Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.

Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.

If someone steals your ball, theft.

If someone takes your money and spends it on valuable public service, not theft.

If someone takes my ball against my will, plays soccer with it, and never returns it, then it is theft. Whether or not the game is fun is irrelevant.

[Thafoo]

If someone steals your ball, theft.

If someone takes your money and spends it on valuable public service, not theft.

If someone takes my ball against my will, plays soccer with it, and never returns it, then it is theft. Whether or not the game is fun is irrelevant.

But the government isn't taking your metaphorical ball and just kicking it around. It is spending it on infrastructure, education, public healthcare, etc. . It's not like they spend all your tax on jacuzzis.
Also, as Divair said, you consent to tax by living here.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

If you consent by living here, not theft. Just like paying rent.

End thread.

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

[Tyrants]

For the metaphor to work, you need 5 footballs, and one is taken from you every month, but you get 5 more balls every month.

[Divair]

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

Then leave. If you don't like paying rent, go find another apartment.

[Thafoo]

If you consent by living here, not theft. Just like paying rent.

End thread.

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

Taxes are constitutional.
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

16th amendment.

[Tyrants]

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

Then leave. If you don't like paying rent, go find another apartment.

Or move to Monaco, Liechtenstein, Barbados...

[Falcania]

Theft, noun.
1) The act of stealing property.

Steal, verb.
1) (transitive) To illegally, or without the owner's permission, take possession of something by surreptitiously taking or carrying it away.

So really, the English Language would like to have a word with you.

[Divair]

Then leave. If you don't like paying rent, go find another apartment.

Or move to Monaco, Liechtenstein, Barbados...

Those are the other apartments.

[The Huskar Social Union]

If you consent by living here, not theft. Just like paying rent.

End thread.

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

"Unconstitutional"? Really? Hey dont want to pay your share in your society then leave. See how long you last with out roads, houses, hospitals, schools etc. which are funded with taxes.

[Thafoo]

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

"Unconstitutional"? Really? Hey dont want to pay your share in your society then leave. See how long you last with out roads, houses, hospitals, schools etc. which are funded with taxes.

This is why the Galt structure would fail.

[Hurdegaryp]

Ah, the intellectual depths of the average libertarian... no risk of drowning, that's for sure!

[Ifreann]

Theft is a crime. Taxes are legal. How can crime be legal?

[Thafoo]

Ah, the intellectual depths of the average libertarian... no risk of drowning, that's for sure!

We thought we only had Stradia. Oh well, at least Stradia is culturally left.

[Acroticus]

If you consent by living here, not theft. Just like paying rent.

End thread.

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

You do by accepting citizenship. Don't want to pay taxes? Leave the country. Renounce citizenship. If you would like to stay in your country, then calmly accept the fact that for building your roads, your schools, your hospitals, and keeping you safe, you will have to pay.

[The Huskar Social Union]

"Unconstitutional"? Really? Hey dont want to pay your share in your society then leave. See how long you last with out roads, houses, hospitals, schools etc. which are funded with taxes.

This is why the Galt structure would fail.

The only Galt Structure i know of is a protein one, can you help me out here please?

[Thafoo]

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

You do by accepting citizenship. Don't want to pay taxes? Leave the country. Renounce citizenship. If you would like to stay in your country, then calmly accept the fact that for building your roads, your schools, your hospitals, and keeping you safe, you will have to pay.

This.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

If someone takes my ball against my will, plays soccer with it, and never returns it, then it is theft. Whether or not the game is fun is irrelevant.

But the government isn't taking your metaphorical ball and just kicking it around. It is spending it on infrastructure, education, public healthcare, etc. . It's not like they spend all your tax on jacuzzis.
Also, as Divair said, you consent to tax by living here.

No, it's not. The Government is taking my money and wasting on programs that will never give me any benefit..1 Take medicare for example; this program will be insolvent before I'm old enough to reap the benefits of it. As well, it is a ponzi scheme, and I don't remember giving the Government my due consent to tax me to pay for such insurance out of my income.

[Divair]

Ah, the intellectual depths of the average libertarian... no risk of drowning, that's for sure!

We thought we only had Stradia. Oh well, at least Stradia is culturally left.

We've got plenty of these "omg ebil guverment! taxes are theft!" posters.

[Thafoo]

This is why the Galt structure would fail.

The only Galt Structure i know of is a protein one, can you help me out here please?

I*

And a while ago, Peter Thiel (founder of PayPal) was throwing around the idea of making a rig off the coast of the U.S. that would be independent from tax and no gun laws. What could go fucking wrong?

[Ovisterra]

No, they're payment for a service. If you don't like the service, don't avail of it.