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Postby South East Europe » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:39 pm

I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. What was the reason? Believing god to be a loving creator and having a different opinion as to what scripture meant. True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:41 pm

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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:08 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. What was the reason? Believing god to be a loving creator and having a different opinion as to what scripture meant. True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?

wow thats a lot of religions to have belonged to and have gotten excommunicated from

maybe you should be more careful in the future.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:16 pm

The intolerance and ignorance of fundamentalists is exactly why I became Atheist.

It's rather hypocritical of them when they forget the bible teaches us to treat others they way we wish to be treated and not to judge.
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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:29 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. What was the reason? Believing god to be a loving creator and having a different opinion as to what scripture meant. True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


If I may ask, what was your scriptural schism with the Church of Christian Science? If its too personal, my apologies.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:31 pm

Scotus Anonymous wrote:
If I may ask, what was your scriptural schism with the Church of Christian Science? If its too personal, my apologies.


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Postby The Deus Corporation » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:32 pm

Actually they're being good christians. Now don't get me wrong, I agree with you completely. But you're refering to being chrstlike not christian. Now I used to be a JW, I wasn't dfed because I didn't break any of their rules but I did leave the organization, and now I'm proud to say that I am an atheist.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:34 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. . . . And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Oh why don't those stupid idiots let me in their crappy club for jerks?
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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:36 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Scotus Anonymous wrote:
If I may ask, what was your scriptural schism with the Church of Christian Science? If its too personal, my apologies.


They don't like it when their followers run over people in wheelchairs and break their shins.


I thought it was the Mennonites that had a prophecy against Murderball.

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Postby Robonic » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:36 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. What was the reason? Believing god to be a loving creator and having a different opinion as to what scripture meant. True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


None of the above mentioned are actually "Christian" in any way. They're separate and unrelated sects that take either a perversion or general derivation of the accepted canon.

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Postby Firaqis » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:36 pm

Well, I don't know what happened in any of those cases so I can't say.

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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:37 pm

Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. . . . And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Oh why don't those stupid idiots let me in their crappy club for jerks?


We can't all get into Skull & Bones.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:37 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. What was the reason? Believing god to be a loving creator and having a different opinion as to what scripture meant. True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


I thought you said you were an atheist?
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Postby Muravyets » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:37 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. <snip>

Wow, that's quite a record. :) :clap: What churches are you going to do next? ;)
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:38 pm

Scotus Anonymous wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. . . . And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Oh why don't those stupid idiots let me in their crappy club for jerks?


We can't all get into Skull & Bones.


You know, we have Geronimo's skull.
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Postby Muravyets » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:38 pm

Scotus Anonymous wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. . . . And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Oh why don't those stupid idiots let me in their crappy club for jerks?


We can't all get into Skull & Bones.

Oh, burn! You know that's the wrong school, you vicious so-and-so. (S&B is Yale, isn't it?)
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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:38 pm

Muravyets wrote:
South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. <snip>

Wow, that's quite a record. :) :clap: What churches are you going to do next? ;)


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Postby Jingoist Hippostan » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:39 pm

Why do you keep joining religions whose viewpoints are obviously in conflict with your own?
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Postby KaIashnikov » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:39 pm

I don't give a damn. Stay off my lawn.

I will not hesitate to meet and greet Jehovah witnesses with a loaded M14... (Again)
So your an Anti-war and terrorist organization. Sorta like 'Green Al-Qaeda'?
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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:40 pm

Muravyets wrote:
Scotus Anonymous wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. . . . And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Oh why don't those stupid idiots let me in their crappy club for jerks?


We can't all get into Skull & Bones.

Oh, burn! You know that's the wrong school, you vicious so-and-so.


Nuh-uh. Check his undergrad transcripts, they're tattooed on the other side of his wang.

You have to talk dirty to him if you want to be able read senior year.

Okay, I'll stop spamming.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:41 pm

Muravyets wrote:Oh, burn! You know that's the wrong school, you vicious so-and-so. (S&B is Yale, isn't it?)


I, um, I did go to Yale dear :p
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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:42 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Scotus Anonymous wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. . . . And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Oh why don't those stupid idiots let me in their crappy club for jerks?


We can't all get into Skull & Bones.


You know, we have Geronimo's skull.


They have the Kinderhook Plates.

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Postby Scotus Anonymous » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:44 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Muravyets wrote:Oh, burn! You know that's the wrong school, you vicious so-and-so. (S&B is Yale, isn't it?)


I, um, I did go to Yale dear :p


Yeah, but you were only admitted from the waist up, because below that, you're Jewish. Your legs had to go to Harvard.

And your dick, of course, had to go to Tuskegee...on an athletic scholarship...

Sorry, new revelation.

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Postby Kashindahar » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:57 pm

South East Europe wrote:I have been excommunicated from the Church of Latter Day Saints, I have been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah World Order aka Jehovah World Organization, and I have been excommunicated from the Church of Christian Science. What was the reason? Believing god to be a loving creator and having a different opinion as to what scripture meant. True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


Why do you believe that God fucked up when he made you?

Why do you expect people who believe that God doesn't fuck up to believe that it's God who fucked up in making you and not you who are the fuckup for not accepting God's work?
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Postby Buxtahatche » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:59 pm

South East Europe wrote:True Christians, as you claim to be, are not so intolerant and ignorant. So, I have several questions to all of you Religious Fundamentalists out there. Why am I, a mixed-race, gender-variant, bisexual, disabled girl, a worse sinner then all of you who condemn and ridicule innocent people? Why do you believe that you know exactly what God is thinking? And, the final question, Why do you believe that Jesus will let you into his kingdom for being such intolerant and ignorant individuals?


LOL... well, lemmie see...
I've killed (well, in self defense, but let's just list this for completeness).
Committed adultery (fornication).
Stolen, been disrespectful to my parents, taken the Lord's name in vein and have been less than diligent in my seeking fellowship of other Christians.

The thing is, I am genuinely sorry for what I've done, and I endeavor not to repeat my mistakes.
I don't have sex with anyone but my wife. I try to be respectful to my father and mother (though I don't always succeed) and I've begun going back to church. I've still got a dirty mouth, but I'm getting a bit better. I'm not a model Christian by any means... but God still loves me.

If you are genuinely sorry for what you do that is sinful making efforts to end your sinful practices, then you are doing what it takes. God even tells you that you'll never be perfect- just forgiven.
If you don't try to correct the defects with real regret and sorrow in your heart, then you're not getting anywhere. Of all you mentioned, only 'bisexual' sets off alarms in my head. A Christian can't accept being 'bisexual'; homosexuality is inherently sinful.

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