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Postby New Sapienta » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:49 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Except by that point lots of Italians didn't like him, to the point where the invaders were welcomed as liberators. He fought not for Italy, not for its people, not for its glory, not for its future, but for himself and his reign.

Yes. Someone who truly fought for the glory of his country wouldn't be such a downright coward.

The Americans were not liberators. All they did was destroy Italy.

Italy would have been conquered.

That is not how they were welcomed.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:49 pm

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Because he was allied with Germany and Germany had a border with them.
France and Poland both bordered Germany too.


He was only allied with Germany because of an argument between him, the UK, and France over his invasion of Ethiopia.

Yes I know. He did so to create a new Roman Empire.
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Postby Ruridova » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:50 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Except by that point lots of Italians didn't like him, to the point where the invaders were welcomed as liberators. He fought not for Italy, not for its people, not for its glory, not for its future, but for himself and his reign.

Yes. Someone who truly fought for the glory of his country wouldn't be such a downright coward.

The Americans were not liberators. All they did was destroy Italy.

Italy would have been conquered.

The Americans liberated, with the help of people from all over Europe, liberated the continent from Nazi and Fascist rule. It was Mussolini's actions in screwing over the Italian people and in allying Germany that got Italy ruined, if it was, not any American army.

Italy was a whore to Mussolini, himself a whore to the Germany, itself a whore to Hitler and the Nazis. Italy would not have been conquered; it was liberated.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:51 pm

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Ruridova wrote:France and Poland both bordered Germany too.


He was only allied with Germany because of an argument between him, the UK, and France over his invasion of Ethiopia.

Yes I know. He did so to create a new Roman Empire.

Ha, yeah. Anyway, not the subject of the thread. Whose side would you be on, the government or the rebels?
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:52 pm

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Yes I know. He did so to create a new Roman Empire.

Ha, yeah. Anyway, not the subject of the thread. Whose side would you be on, the government or the rebels?

That is right. This was a threadjack. Back to original topic.
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Postby Ruridova » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:52 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Ruridova wrote:France and Poland both bordered Germany too.


He was only allied with Germany because of an argument between him, the UK, and France over his invasion of Ethiopia.

Yes I know. He did so to create a new Roman Empire.

He was living in the dreams of a past them. His psychotic plans would have brought glory only to him and the government, not the people of Italy or any other nation. We do not remember the average Roman citizen, nor the poor stiff serving in a legion, nor the Gaul fighting for his family and way of life- we remember Nero and Caesar and Octavian and Tiberius and Caligula. Whatever Mussolini did was for his ego, not for Italy. The part about doing it for Italy was just a side effect or justification.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:07 pm

Depends what the rebels stood for. If it was socialism or some other crap like that, I'd be ready to defend the government in a heartbeat. I'd be ready to whoop some rebel ass.

In the outside chance it was for a return to capitalism or some other group that ran to the right of the government, I'd be all in.
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Postby Sidhae » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:48 pm

Join the revolution, obviously. Just for the hell of it.

Sure, the end result would probably be at least as shitty as the current system if not worse, but at least it would be something new for a while, and I suppose joining a revolution for a shitty cause against a shitty system is still better than sitting on my ass doing nothing .
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:00 pm

It depends on what the revolution is. I can't imagine why there would be a revolution in Washington, unless it's a "West coast and Northeast secede! Let Jesusland/Republicanland be their own country!" revolution.
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:00 pm

Geilinor wrote:It depends on what the revolution is. I can't imagine why there would be a revolution in Washington, unless it's a "West and east coast secede! Let Jesusland be their own country!" revolution.


I'd fight for that revolution.
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Postby Ruridova » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:01 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Geilinor wrote:It depends on what the revolution is. I can't imagine why there would be a revolution in Washington, unless it's a "West and east coast secede! Let Jesusland be their own country!" revolution.


I'd fight for that revolution.

Seconded. I'd have to move first.
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:03 pm

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Nua Corda wrote:
I'd fight for that revolution.

Seconded. I'd have to move first.


Well, could we take Minnesota too? I don't want to move, and we've got a pretty decent state. We did defeat both Voter ID and a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, you know.
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Postby Ruridova » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:04 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Seconded. I'd have to move first.


Well, could we take Minnesota too? I don't want to move, and we've got a pretty decent state. We did defeat both Voter ID and a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, you know.

.... I'd have to move. Ain't no way Texas would win up out of Jesusland.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:06 pm

Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?

Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution :lol:


I would use my connections and flee the country. I have no desire at all to become involved in an armed revolution and will walk the "Wilhemina" path of resistance (ie. supporting the resistance from outside). Mostly I'd be involved in bringing back democracy to the Netherlands.

And yes, I assumed that an armed revolution would abolish the democratic system as we know it in the Netherlands.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:11 pm

Czechanada wrote:I'd take the chance to write a book about it, like George Orwell.


This seems like a good idea.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:12 pm

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Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?

Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution :lol:

It would depend on the reason for the revolution.


So does this.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:18 pm

I'd stay put and pretend nothing was out of the ordinary.
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Postby Vurran » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:26 pm

Loyalists.

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Postby TotallyNotEvilLand » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:29 pm

I'd probably hide because I'm not old enough to join any army, and honestly, I don't see the point of Alaska rebelling.
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Postby Vedastia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:38 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:Depends what the rebels stood for. If it was socialism or some other crap like that, I'd be ready to defend the government in a heartbeat. I'd be ready to whoop some rebel ass.

In the outside chance it was for a return to capitalism or some other group that ran to the right of the government, I'd be all in.

Ditto.
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Postby Reggae Magmia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:47 pm

Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?

Get the hell out, since the revolutionaries would most likely be gun-toting Tea Partiers or [insert gun-toting anti-government group here].

If they we socialist, they would have my support but I would not partake in an armed revolution.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:58 pm

Out of boredom and also because I am tired of the current government for it bores me and it is so annoying and stupid a change of pace would be enjoyable. Plus since more than likely the most likely people to engage in armed rebellion are the fascists or the extreme-right I would be OK with them more than likely.
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Postby Libertarian California » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:42 am

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It's based upon ethnic nationalism, which is in and of itself, racist.
I asked for a source. Can you provide a source?



Other than the fact that they call themselves "La Raza", which means "the Race" (seriously, how can anyone not see this shit?)

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Postby Immoren » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:47 am

>armed revolution
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Postby The USOT » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:00 am

As has been said, it would depend on the revolution. For most I think I would probably support the government (against any authoritarian ideology for instance).
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