Should the UK leave the EU?

[Harold I]

What do you think on the UK’s position in the EU? Should the UK leave, I think we should because we have too much pressure on changing the currency from the pound to the euro and a lot of people don’t like the fact how they “interfere” with the laws.

Your views?

Please, this is just to see different views, don’t attack each other otherwise I will get a Game Moderator to check it out

And isn’t there a thread on this already?

[Divair]

And isn’t there a thread on this already?

Yes, so why the hell did you make another one?

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

We should not only leave the EU, we should leave planet Earth and set up shop on the Moon and then the rest of the solar system and let Earth's barbarians and uncouth types with one eyebrow sort themselves out.

Of course this is dependent upon being able to cultivate tea out there. Also drop scones might take on a different meaning in zero gravity.

Blast! Foiled!

[Abatael]

They should.

[Densaner]

This again? Yes we should leave.

[Towson]

No there the last large economicy stable nation left there.

[Divair]

No there the last large economicy stable nation left there.

Germany? France?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

This again? Yes we should leave.

Why?

[Malgrave]

Nope. I'd rather not have the UK economy implode, although the current Conservative government seems to be doing a fairly decent job at wrecking the economy with the continued austerity measures. Stay in the EU, kick aside the austerity measures and get rid of the crappy coalition government.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Nope. I'd rather not have the UK economy implode, although the current Conservative government seems to be doing a fairly decent job at wrecking the economy with the continued austerity measures. Stay in the EU, kick aside the austerity measures and get rid of the crappy coalition government.

I'd add "have socialist revolution" to the end of this, but otherwise it makes sense.

[Malgrave]

No there the last large economicy stable nation left there.

Germany? France?

We're in a stable decline *nods*.

[Densaner]

This again? Yes we should leave.

Why?

It's a matter of democracy. It's for people who support the EU to both explain and defend the democratic deficit that currently exists. And the fact that most of our laws are actually EU Commission directives. Directives made by people we never voted for and can't get rid of.

[Malgrave]

Nope. I'd rather not have the UK economy implode, although the current Conservative government seems to be doing a fairly decent job at wrecking the economy with the continued austerity measures. Stay in the EU, kick aside the austerity measures and get rid of the crappy coalition government.

I'd add "have socialist revolution" to the end of this, but otherwise it makes sense.

Do we get to keep the monarchy? They serve a purpose in attracting gullible American tourists and photo taking obsessed Asians. I'm prepared for pretty much anything if it gets rid of the current bunch of torries.

[Ritulus Terra]

We should not only leave the EU, we should leave planet Earth and set up shop on the Moon and then the rest of the solar system and let Earth's barbarians and uncouth types with one eyebrow sort themselves out.

Of course this is dependent upon being able to cultivate tea out there. Also drop scones might take on a different meaning in zero gravity.

Blast! Foiled!

But the moon DOES have gravity! There's just less of it!

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Why?

It's a matter of democracy. It's for people who support the EU to both explain and defend the democratic deficit that currently exists.

Burden of proof is currently on you as the one who's implied that EU membership is disadvantageous.

And the fact that most of our laws are actually EU Commission directives.

Source.

Directives made by people we never voted for and can't get rid of.

Commissioners are given a vote of approval by the European Parliament, some of which is composed of British MEPs. Commissioners are also supposed to not act in the national interest but in the European interest, so I don't see how electing them would change anything.

[Swordishaw]

Yes, the United Kingdom should not be dictated to by un-elected officials from Brussels, Belgium. Also the U.K and Germany are the only ones who care about their economy in the European Union, every other country in the E.U, just much'es of the EURO because their currency is to weak therefore decreasing every good economic countries currency value.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Yes, the United Kingdom should not be dictated to by un-elected officials from Brussels, Belgium.

You've been reading the UKIP pamphlets again, haven't you?

European Commissioners are given a vote of approval by the elected European Parliament, which also elects the Commission President.

Also the U.K and Germany are the only ones who care about their economy in the European Union,

France? Benelux?

every other country in the E.U, just mooches off the EURO because their currency is to weak

That makes literally no sense.

therefore decreasing every good economic countries currency value.

A slightly devalued currency is good for trading purposes. That's what my extremely basic knowledge of economics has taught me thus far.

[Malgrave]

Yes, the United Kingdom should not be dictated to by un-elected officials from Brussels, Belgium. Also the U.K and Germany are the only ones who care about their economy in the European Union, every other country in the E.U, just much'es of the EURO because their currency is to weak therefore decreasing every good economic countries currency value.

My locally elected MEP begs to differ and I suppose you have no informational source about the UK and Germany being the only countries to matter about their economy, something which is blown out of the water simply by looking at the measures these economies are enforcing (although unpopular) in order to put their national economy back on track. So really every single country in the EU is focused on economic development and recovery at the moment.

[United Kingdom of Muffins]

Yes, the United Kingdom should not be dictated to by un-elected officials from Brussels, Belgium.

A slightly devalued currency is good for trading purposes. That's what my extremely basic knowledge of economics has taught me thus far.

It depends on your economic policies, the German centric views of the main economic powers in the EU, that simply the more our currency is worth the better and we should do everything possible to make it more valuable.

[Vultasia]

To be honest, I don't even care what the UK do anymore. Keep having that guy scream and curse at Germany for 'exploiting EU countries in debt' all you want, I personally do not care anymore. The whole "UK wants to leave EU, they are bureaucratic and stuff" attitude only bores me now. As someone from Finland (Low debt to GDP ratio, hoorah!), the EU is either going to be poorer countries milking money from the bigger nations (this case, UK and Greece cursing at Germany when it's your own fault for not knowing how to manage your economy) or bigger countries exploiting other nations. It's the first one, so if the UK wants to leave, then please leave. Finland was thinking about leaving too after seeing how much trouble Germany is in for being successful, you don't see us making a big fuss about it.

[Nadkor]

And isn’t there a thread on this already?

There are many, many, threads on this. Quite why you thought it a good idea to create a new one is lost on me.

The answer to your main question is no, and anyone who says "yes" is probably an ideologue who is perfectly happy to ruin the country to see their own unfounded and ill thought out fantasies come true and frankly anything they say on the matter should be disregarded by any rational person.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

We should not only leave the EU, we should leave planet Earth and set up shop on the Moon and then the rest of the solar system and let Earth's barbarians and uncouth types with one eyebrow sort themselves out.

Of course this is dependent upon being able to cultivate tea out there. Also drop scones might take on a different meaning in zero gravity.

Blast! Foiled!

But the moon DOES have gravity! There's just less of it!

Minor technicality!

[Union of Confederate Socialist Republics]

I thought it only had observer status.

[The Blaatschapen]

What do you think on the UK’s position in the EU? Should the UK leave, I think we should because we have too much pressure on changing the currency from the pound to the euro and a lot of people don’t like the fact how they “interfere” with the laws.

Your views?

Please, this is just to see different views, don’t attack each other otherwise I will get a Game Moderator to check it out

And isn’t there a thread on this already?

No, the UK should not leave the EU. For one, it would mean we, the dutch, have one thrustworthy partner less in this endeavour. For another, it would really wreck your economy.

And what is this pressure to change from the pound to the Euro that you are talking about?

[Socialist States Owen]

Why?

It's a matter of democracy. It's for people who support the EU to both explain and defend the democratic deficit that currently exists. And the fact that most of our laws are actually EU Commission directives. Directives made by people we never voted for and can't get rid of.

Sauce please?

For the record, I don't believe we should leave the EU. It worries me how little information on the EU of a reliable nature has been communicated to the general population and while it has its problems (France + Germany trying to monopolise control, the Euro being terrible) the EU is ultimately key to the survival of our nation in the long term. Oh, and leaving would fuck our economy (and possibly Ireland's, actually).