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[violet]
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Postby [violet] » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:06 pm

Now implemented. I think I got everything; let me know if anything's missing!

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:11 pm

Would it be malicious to suggest the SC bring a proposal to vote just to test this new animal? :p

(Also, what happened to the sidebar links for both Councils? It looks good now, I was just wondering.)

EDIT: Thanks also for all your hard work on this!
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Postby [violet] » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:15 pm

The SC will promote a proposal at the next daily update. I just missed this one.

Oh yes, sidebar link: I wasn't happy with how it looked. It added quite a bit of clutter and pushed "Latest Threads" completely offscreen on low-but-common resolutions. I thought about having those links appear only when you were within the WA, when they'd be most relevant, but then the GA & SC are only a click away anyway. So I'm not sure it's a usability improvement.

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Edit: Actually, I notice there's nothing in the SC proposal queue with quorum. When there is, it'll hit the SC voting floor.
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Postby Linux and the X » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:18 pm

[violet] wrote:Now implemented. I think I got everything; let me know if anything's missing!

I do see one potential problem: there's no grace period between the adoption of a resolution and the tabling of the next. As an example, if the current proposal gains resolution status, the next up for vote would be "A Promotion of Basic Education", which would be illegal, as it had suddenly become duplication. I'd recommend making having a one-update delay between proposals so that anything made illegal can be withdrawn.
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Postby [violet] » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:27 pm

Linux and the X wrote:I do see one potential problem: there's no grace period between the adoption of a resolution and the tabling of the next. As an example, if the current proposal gains resolution status, the next up for vote would be "A Promotion of Basic Education", which would be illegal, as it had suddenly become duplication. I'd recommend making having a one-update delay between proposals so that anything made illegal can be withdrawn.

That's not something I've just introduced; it's always been like that. Perhaps make a new thread for discussion.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:33 am

[violet] wrote:Now implemented. I think I got everything; let me know if anything's missing!

The layout looks just like along the lines of what I suggested. Thanks! :clap:

Maybe subsections in the navigation bar may help.
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Postby Fit battion » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:19 am

Wow, that looks really nice.
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:59 am

I will rejoin the WA now! Thanks to Violet.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:11 am

[violet] wrote:Now implemented. I think I got everything; let me know if anything's missing!

All the proposals currently say "RESOLUTION AT VOTE."

Also the proposal submission form should only be visible/accessible to members with two endorsements.
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Postby [violet] » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:15 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:All the proposals currently say "RESOLUTION AT VOTE."

Fixed, thanks!

Also the proposal submission form should only be visible/accessible to members with two endorsements.

It's visible to all WA members, which is the same it's always been... I think it would be potentially confusing if the link appeared and disappeared as you dipped above or below the threshold. The form itself is pretty clear that you need 2 endorsements to continue.
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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:24 pm

[violet] wrote:
Also the proposal submission form should only be visible/accessible to members with two endorsements.

It's visible to all WA members, which is the same it's always been... I think it would be potentially confusing if the link appeared and disappeared as you dipped above or below the threshold. The form itself is pretty clear that you need 2 endorsements to continue.


I think it would be nice if there was a link to the proposal page on the generic World Assembly page, and that link just went to the undivided queue. It would save time trying to click links when one wants to go to the queue.

By the way, the architecture of the divide is just stunning, I love it!
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:33 pm

I can haz a "Preview Resolution" button? :)

(Before submitting, with character count)

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:08 pm

[violet] wrote:It's visible to all WA members, which is the same it's always been...

I don't exactly remember it that way; at any rate I am not even a WA member yet I can still access the form.
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Postby [violet] » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:16 pm

Oh I see, you're looking on the proposal page. I'll make that link appear for WA members only, so it's consistent (right now it appears for all logged-in nations).

But that's also not anything I changed; it was like that before.

Sionis Prioratus wrote:I can haz a "Preview Resolution" button? :)

New threads for suggestions not concerning this specific change please!

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Postby Dyr Nasad » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:24 pm

Thank you very much, [violet]!

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Postby Krioval » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:42 pm

Thank you for the excellent work.

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Postby Ardchoille » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:54 pm

I especially like the logos. The way the GA one's scales are balanced, the whole thing looks to the shortsighted (ie, me) like the deeply threatening face of some insanely powerful Megatron clone. Perfect! World Government, here we come!

And I am suitably impressed by the unbloodied sword on the SC's. Subtle -- leaves no evidence.
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Postby Unibot » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:02 pm

Ardchoille wrote:And I am suitably impressed by the unbloodied sword on the SC's. Subtle -- leaves no evidence.


Its unbloodied because the rules say we can't start a WA army. Nevertheless, I always thought my talents were more suited for administrative purposes, as opposed to the field, anyway... :p

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:09 pm

Unibot wrote:
Ardchoille wrote:And I am suitably impressed by the unbloodied sword on the SC's. Subtle -- leaves no evidence.


Its unbloodied because the rules say we can't start a WA army. Nevertheless, I always thought my talents were more suited for administrative purposes, as opposed to the field, anyway... :p


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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:18 am

Unibot wrote:
Ardchoille wrote:And I am suitably impressed by the unbloodied sword on the SC's. Subtle -- leaves no evidence.


Its unbloodied because the rules say we can't start a WA army. Nevertheless, I always thought my talents were more suited for administrative purposes, as opposed to the field, anyway... :p

True... but I kinda think that the SC was some kind of army on paper at least. :unsure:

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Postby A mean old man » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:45 pm

Ardchoille wrote:And I am suitably impressed by the unbloodied sword on the SC's. Subtle -- leaves no evidence.


Wha...? There should be blood all over that thing... :blink:
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Postby The Most Glorious Hack » Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:55 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:True... but I kinda think that the SC was some kind of army on paper at least. :unsure:
Well, not on paper...

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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:59 pm

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

I'm sorry it took me a while to get back to this - had things on my mind.
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Postby JURISDICTIONS » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:36 am

Is it possible on the "WA" page to add that one part that says something about the "Organization-that-cannot-be-named"?

and is it possible to add a short BIo about each chamber? (Besides "one resolution" and "via, force if necessary")
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:10 am

JURISDICTIONS wrote:Is it possible on the "WA" page to add that one part that says something about the "Organization-that-cannot-be-named"?

What about it? It used to be called the UN, but the real UN complained and now it's the WA. That's pretty much it. If you want more info, try the wiki page.

and is it possible to add a short BIo about each chamber? (Besides "one resolution" and "via, force if necessary")

This sounds more like something to be added to the FAQ, which still hasn't been updated to reflect the changes to the WA.
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