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Deadliest Warrior: Halo 3 Brutes VS Imperial Stormtroopers

Postby Marsh Corporation » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:43 pm

Brutes: The cunning servants of the Covenant that nearly wiped out mankind.
Stormtroopers: The servants of the emperor that enforced the tyranny of Darth Vader's Galactic Empire.

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The 2 deadliest galactic enforcers go head to head.

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Stormtroopers:
Double Plated Impact Armor.
E11 Blaster Rifle.
Thermobaric Rocket Launcher.
Laser Rifle.
EMP Launcher.
Thermal Dentanator.

Brutes:
Retractable Armor.
Spiker.
Brute Shot.
Beam Rifle.
Gravity Hammer.
Spike Grenade.

Best Main Weapon: Spiker.
Best Heavy Weapon: Thermobaric Rocket.
Best Sniper Weapon: Laser Rifle.
Best Special Weapon: Gravity Hammer.
Best Grenade: Tied.

Brutes X Factor: Brutality And Rage.
Stormtroopers X Factor: Training And Skill.

My math tells me brutes win with overwhelming victory.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:44 pm

Stormtroopers fall over all the time, obviously Brutes. :p
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Postby Ralkovia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:45 pm

Stormtroopers couldn't hit the side of a barn. I'm inclined to agree with Brutes, even though they are just big wookies.
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Postby The USOT » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:45 pm

I would guess Imperial Stormtroopers, merely because their armour is (if memory serves) very effective defending against physical ballistics, which are the entirety of what Brutes wield.

However. The brutes do appear on a similar level to the Wookies in many aspects, who are noted for having torn apart groups of imperial stormtroopers apart.

So in terms of fiction magic, probably the brutes. In terms of actual ability, stormtroopers.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:48 pm

Stormtroopers are pitifully weak. I'm hard pressed to think of anything that couldn't beat them.....17th century musketeers would have an edge over them lol.

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Postby Crumlark » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:49 pm

Ralkovia wrote:Stormtroopers couldn't hit the side of a barn. I'm inclined to agree with Brutes, even though they are just big wookies.

That was simply plot armor of the main characters, not their lack of skill.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:49 pm

Stormtroopers are very good shots, contrary to what everyone thinks. The reason they couldn't hit anything is because they were shooting at the good guys in a Hollywood production.
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Postby The Sangheili Empire » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:49 pm

Very weird, Covenant Plasma is possibly more dangerous, so a Brute Plasma Rifle would be very deadly. I am inclined to say I doubt the Storm Troopers will be able to survive the overall Brute attack, but the Storm Troopers still have a good chance of winning since the Jiralhanae are fucking retarded.

Also change the Halo 3 Brute, to just Brute, or their proper name of Jiralhanae.
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Postby The Sangheili Empire » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:58 pm

Anyways, Competent Sangheili curb-stomp both.
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Postby Oogium » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:02 pm

Brutes, far and away. They are bigger, have better armor, weapons and strength, and Covenant spaceships are much better than Star Wars ships.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:04 pm

Halo 3 is a terrible game, and Stormtroopers can't hit anything relevant to the plot, so I'd say neither.

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Postby The Sangheili Empire » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:04 pm

Oogium wrote:Brutes, far and away. They are bigger, have better armor, weapons and strength, and Covenant spaceships are much better than Star Wars ships.

Space is debatable, Covenant ships usually fire high megatons to low to multi gigatons, but if I recall correctly, most star wars ships fire low to high gigatons.

Now if you said if the Covenant used their ships to full potential, then yes they would shit all over the Empires fleet, but they are to inept to alter their own technology to become Forerunner lite.
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Postby Marsh Corporation » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:19 pm

If Star Wars ships went against a Covenant armada, the Covenant would win until they met the Death Star. :blink:

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Postby The Sangheili Empire » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:20 pm

Marsh Corporation wrote:If Star Wars ships went against a Covenant armada, the Covenant would win until they met the Death Star. :blink:

Nah, the Covenant just Slipspace inside of the death star and thus start glassing it after a shit ton of it is removed from the inside.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:23 pm

The Sangheili Empire wrote:Nah, the Covenant just Slipspace inside of the death star and thus start glassing it after a shit ton of it is removed from the inside.


They would slipspace inside of it and promptly explode due to occupying the same space as another object.

A Covenant armada would be wiped out. SW ships have shields significantly stronger then the Covenant, and significantly better weapons.
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Postby Marsh Corporation » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:25 pm

True that.

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Postby Marsh Corporation » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:28 pm

I meant true that Sanghelli. Even if the Covenant Cruiser exploded on the inside, it would still do a massive amount of damage. And the Covenant are well known for their acts of martyrdom.

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Postby The Sangheili Empire » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:30 pm

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The Sangheili Empire wrote:Nah, the Covenant just Slipspace inside of the death star and thus start glassing it after a shit ton of it is removed from the inside.


They would slipspace inside of it and promptly explode due to occupying the same space as another object.

A Covenant armada would be wiped out. SW ships have shields significantly stronger then the Covenant, and significantly better weapons.

I don't think you quite understand how Slipspace works.

Anyways I wouldn't say significantly, by default the Covenant are in the high megaton to mid gigaton range in power and defense.

God forbid if they actually decided to take their technology to it's full power.

Spacebattles officially puts the Covenant to every aspect of the megaton range, and low to sometimes mid gigatons, and star wars at gigatons, if the Covenant were competent with their tech, they could move their power in both shields and weapons to a much larger degree, thus making them a forerunner lite (hypothetically.)

Now my Spacebattles knowledge might be off because there have been more ME vs Halo threads lately but hey, what are you going to do?
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:30 pm

Marsh Corporation wrote:I meant true that Sanghelli. Even if the Covenant Cruiser exploded on the inside, it would still do a massive amount of damage. And the Covenant are well known for their acts of martyrdom.


And they would lose a lot in the process, while at the same time the Empire would be like "Meh." A single ship hitting it wouldn't be enough to kill the Death Star. It would take an entire fleet. The Empire can replace ships and men WAY more easily then the Covenant. And as I said before, Empire ships outclass Covenant by a long shot, as do their ground troops.
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Postby The Sangheili Empire » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:34 pm

Also is there any feats to star wars ground weapon damage? Covenant weapons are able to take unshielded limbs off by just passing by (Obviously within a close proximity, but still far away that if it was a bullet there would be no damage or worry.)

I would also question the skill of the Storm Troopers, while they have great accuracy, most expert Sangheili tend to be more lethal IMO due to their experience in combat and that they have been training since they were children.
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Postby Marsh Corporation » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:46 pm

No question there. Elites.

In a 5,000 on 5,000 battle the average casualty for elites are around 250.
Stormtroopers: 4,980.

They would cut down more stormtroopers faster than Vader could replace them. But in terms of areial combat though, Star Wars. The Banshee and Vampire are freaking weak amd Phantoms can't win on their own.

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:50 pm

The Sangheili Empire wrote:Also is there any feats to star wars ground weapon damage? Covenant weapons are able to take unshielded limbs off by just passing by (Obviously within a close proximity, but still far away that if it was a bullet there would be no damage or worry.)

I would also question the skill of the Storm Troopers, while they have great accuracy, most expert Sangheili tend to be more lethal IMO due to their experience in combat and that they have been training since they were children.


SW ground weapons are typically blaster rifles, which fire bursts of particle beam energy that usually kills a person (exceptions made for certain species like Wookies or plot important characters). They have a high fire rate and don't require much reloading, as some blaster models can fire hundreds of shots on a single magazine. The stormtroopers use a E-11 model, which can fire 500 shots.

Armor wise, stormtrooper armor provides rather good protection (blasters are simply really strong) and would probably need a direct hit from Covenant plasma weapon in order to score a kill.

Training and tactics wise, stormtroopers are crack shots and actually use cover and aim while also having superior numbers, which would put them at a distinct advantage over the Covenant, as from what I've seen in the games typically Covenant fighting tactics is to fire from the hip while standing in the open or rushing at the enemy.
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Postby The Quarian Expanse » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:57 pm

I'd go with Stormtroopers.

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Postby Xathranaar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:58 pm

Stormtroopers were unable to defeat tiny, weak furry primitives, so I fail to see how they would succeed against enormous strong ones.
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Postby The Corparation » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:01 pm

Really depends on what type of Storm Troopers the Brutes are fighting. Overall though my bet is on the Empire winning the war.
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