Question for Evolution Believers

[Salamanstrom]

I don't believe in the big bang theory, but i'm actually curious how this works. How does humans moral system exist if evolution is true. Now, people have said that evolution has set it up where we do the right things so that we don't get hated by everyone. But, in my opinion, that doesn't answer it. WHY is doing this stuff wrong. If I kill someone, why is it wrong. The theory previously stated answers why we don't do it, but not why it is wrong. Any one that can explain this, please do.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I don't believe in the big bang theory, but i'm actually curious how this works. How does humans moral system exist if evolution is true. Now, people have said that evolution has set it up where we do the right things so that we don't get hated by everyone. But, in my opinion, that doesn't answer it. WHY is doing this stuff wrong. If I kill someone, why is it wrong. The theory previously stated answers why we don't do it, but not why it is wrong. Any one that can explain this, please do.

Who are these "people"?

[Salamanstrom]

people on other posts, I probally wrote the theory wrong anyways

[Vanhania]

Because we feel empathy for other human beings thanks to the way we can relate to people like us. We as humans have a idea that we are safer in numbers and if you kill someone who would be able to help you it also hurts you.

[Inky Noodles]

You mean Evolutionists correct?
"God-believers!"
You mean Creationists?

[Pinkie D Pie]

Evolution is a scientific fact, not a belief. If you don't believe in evolution I'm assuming that you won't use antibiotics next time you get sick, or in fact pretty much anything that comes out of medical science as the science is completely dependent on evolution as one of its core theories (in the scientific, not common speech meaning of the word theory).

Morality is pretty simple, people who cooperate tend to live longer. Ta-da!

[Salamanstrom]

but why don't we consider killing a good thing, why a bad thing.

[Aggicificicerous]

If I kill someone, why is it wrong. The theory previously stated answers why we don't do it, but not why it is wrong.

Because people say it is wrong. You place too much emphasis on terms that only exist because we give them meaning.

[Christian Democrats]

Evolution is about reproduction, not morality.

I am a theistic evolutionist.

[CTALNH]

I don't believe in "Right and Wrong"

That line of thought is ancient and stupid...

[Ostroeuropa]

Why would it be wrong if Creationism is true?
The divine command problem as it were.
What difference does it make if god arbitrarily decides some things wrong, or we arbitrarily decide.

The fact that we have ethical arguments and bases actually means it's a lot less arbitrary than divine command would be.

So, to reverse your question, why is murder wrong in your opinion.

[Laerod]

I don't believe in the big bang theory, but i'm actually curious how this works. How does humans moral system exist if evolution is true. Now, people have said that evolution has set it up where we do the right things so that we don't get hated by everyone. But, in my opinion, that doesn't answer it. WHY is doing this stuff wrong. If I kill someone, why is it wrong. The theory previously stated answers why we don't do it, but not why it is wrong. Any one that can explain this, please do.

Go read an ethics book.

[Tuthina]

I don't believe in the big bang theory, but i'm actually curious how this works. How does humans moral system exist if evolution is true. Now, people have said that evolution has set it up where we do the right things so that we don't get hated by everyone. But, in my opinion, that doesn't answer it. WHY is doing this stuff wrong. If I kill someone, why is it wrong. The theory previously stated answers why we don't do it, but not why it is wrong. Any one that can explain this, please do.

Evolution does not answer moral questions, because it has nothing to do with morality to begin with.

[Azrael]

Many people choose to accept similar systems of morality, and thus it becomes a consensus of what is right and what is wrong.

[Ifreann]

I don't believe in the big bang theory, but i'm actually curious how this works. How does humans moral system exist if evolution is true. Now, people have said that evolution has set it up where we do the right things so that we don't get hated by everyone. But, in my opinion, that doesn't answer it. WHY is doing this stuff wrong. If I kill someone, why is it wrong. The theory previously stated answers why we don't do it, but not why it is wrong. Any one that can explain this, please do.

Immoral things aren't wrong in and of themselves. We just think they're wrong. And that's very useful for us. Keeps us from killing each other and collapsing society on itself.

Hope the idea that killing is only wrong because we think it is doesn't blow your mind.

[Salamanstrom]

then why aern't other things that are hurtful not frowned upon

[Feazanthia]

My trolldar is going off, due to your apparently poor understanding of evolution (in that it has absolutely nothing to do with morals) but I'm bored so here goes.

Killing a person is bad because it is detrimental to society. That's literally it. Mankind creates its own morals in order to keep our civilization(s) from falling into chaos. Human beings crave order and social structure. We are a social species, as are most of the great apes of which we share a genetic lineage.

In effect, it is wrong because the species as a whole has determined it to be so, and no one has made a convincing counter-argument.

[Chetssaland]

Because we feel empathy for other human beings thanks to the way we can relate to people like us. We as humans have a idea that we are safer in numbers and if you kill someone who would be able to help you it also hurts you.

This. And please see the quote in my sig, OP.

[Inky Noodles]

but why don't we consider killing a good thing, why a bad thing.

Are you trying excuse yourself because you killed someone?
JK.

Possibly because others have the right to live as well.

[Chetssaland]

then why aern't other things that are hurtful not frowned upon

Such as?

[Divair]

then why aern't other things that are hurtful not frowned upon

Like?

[Pinkie D Pie]

but why don't we consider killing a good thing, why a bad thing.

People who think killing is a good thing tend not to get allot of friends...
Though to be fair, out-group killing is pretty common in human societies and is often considered quite moral (e.g. war)

[Ostroeuropa]

then why aern't other things that are hurtful not frowned upon

Because we decided they aren't.
Like I said, in your worldview, why is murder wrong? "WHY AREN'T OTHER THINGS?" etc.
The lack of introspection this argument shows is staggering, i've always thought people who used it were parodying.

[The IASM]

Human morality came out of late evolution where by helping other humans, the in turn expect the other human to help back so it is basically IOU in nature.

[Ifreann]

then why aern't other things that are hurtful not frowned upon

Because you touch yourself at night. Or because people have different ideas about morality.