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by Godwinsplot » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:12 am
by Galloism » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:55 pm
The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol wrote:
I'll answer this in two ways. the first one in that, as I said before, not using contreceptive would imply a greater faith in "god's plan for you" or however you choose to put it. more faith=less chance of eternal damnation. the second way to answer this is that god could choose to define contraceptives as bad as a test. I know that statement is overused, but tests imposed by god to weed out people with less faith would be a logical process to keep only those with the most faith, and they are, in fact, canon.
by Tekania » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:36 am
Galloism wrote:The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol wrote: I'll answer this in two ways. the first one in that, as I said before, not using contreceptive would imply a greater faith in "god's plan for you" or however you choose to put it. more faith=less chance of eternal damnation. the second way to answer this is that god could choose to define contraceptives as bad as a test. I know that statement is overused, but tests imposed by god to weed out people with less faith would be a logical process to keep only those with the most faith, and they are, in fact, canon.
Attention, ladies and germs.
You heard it here first:
It's good for you spiritually to trust in God's plan, so avoid those seatbelts, hard hats, and life jackets. Wearing them shows you lack trust in God's plan for you.
by Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:55 am
Conservative Catholics ignore the teachings of Second Vatican Council
by The Realm of God » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:59 am
by Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:03 am
The Realm of God wrote:No like me they realise that Liberty and Equality means secularism and any attempt to spread religious morality by law is evil. By all means follow your religion but do not legislate it!
by The Realm of God » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:13 am
by Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:25 am
by The Realm of God » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:33 am
Disserbia wrote:The Realm of God wrote:
You can choose to have an abortion or to get a packet of condoms no one is forcing you too. The requirement to offer medical services is in no way infringing on freedom of concious.
So theoretically, should one refuse or not if they are required?
I agree with you btw...
by Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:35 am
The Realm of God wrote:Disserbia wrote:So theoretically, should one refuse or not if they are required?
I agree with you btw...
None should refuse anyone the treatment they are required to give them. Since the medical professionals in question are Catholic they should "Do unto others what they wish to be done unto them."
by The Realm of God » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:38 am
by Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:41 am
by The Realm of God » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:48 am
by Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:51 am
The Realm of God wrote:Disserbia wrote:Yeah, but this reminds me a bit of when you ask a friend to stop you from doing something in advance.
It's a complex issue because people are people. I am empathetic to the point where things like that do not cross my mind. I'm also one of those people who will go out of his way not to offend anyone. Some people are much more logical thinkers.
Still I think doctors should put aside there religious morality when treating patients. If they think they have done something wrong? That's why we have confession.
by The Realm of God » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:53 am
Disserbia wrote:The Realm of God wrote:
It's a complex issue because people are people. I am empathetic to the point where things like that do not cross my mind. I'm also one of those people who will go out of his way not to offend anyone. Some people are much more logical thinkers.
Still I think doctors should put aside there religious morality when treating patients. If they think they have done something wrong? That's why we have confession.
Yeah the conflict between doing earthly good and heavenly good is complicated.
by Phocidaea » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:34 pm
by Ashmoria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:41 pm
Phocidaea wrote:Of course.
I always wondered why American Catholics haven't already split off and made the American Catholic church, given the vastly different views many have on both theology and especially on politics compared with Rome.
by Phocidaea » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:29 pm
Ashmoria wrote:Phocidaea wrote:Of course.
I always wondered why American Catholics haven't already split off and made the American Catholic church, given the vastly different views many have on both theology and especially on politics compared with Rome.
because that wouldnt be the one true church established by jesus christ.
by Geilinor » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:56 pm
by Capitolinium » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:41 pm
Norstal wrote:Spiritus Sancti wrote:
No, I am asking that why can someone say they agree with everything the Church teaches and they don't.
So if you're a Christian, you have to agree with everything Christ did? I'm pretty sure if I slapped a Christian, they'd slap me back and not slap their other cheek.
by Capitolinium » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:55 pm
Phocidaea wrote:Of course.
I always wondered why American Catholics haven't already split off and made the American Catholic church, given the vastly different views many have on both theology and especially on politics compared with Rome.
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