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The Official Mod-sanctioned Mayan Apocalypse Thread

Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:58 pm

This is the official mod-sanctioned Mayan Apocalypse thread in preparation for this coming Friday's End of the World. All other Mayan Apocalypse threads this week will be locked.


Your friendly local mod archaeologist and university lecturer Dr Archregimancy has noted the following at least nine times, going back to the old Jolt forums:

The idea of 2012 as an apocalyptic/significant event stems from a misunderstanding of the Mayan Long Count.

The Long Count calendar is a base-20 system of dating from what, in western terms, is 11 August 3114 BC. There are four primary subdivisions consisting of the k'in (1 day), the winal (20 days), the tun (360 days), the k'atun (7,200 days) and the b'ak'tun (144,000).

The Popol Vuh, a book of creation myths from just one of many Mayan sub-groups, states that we're living in the 'fourth world', and that the 'third world' ended - and the previous creation began - at the start of the 14th b'ak'tun, or when the previous cycle's calender rolled over from 12.19.19.17.19 to 13.0.0.0.0 (for those without access to a calculator, that's 1,872,000 days per period). This is the basis for the 2012 myth.

However, there's no evidence, archaeological or documentary, that any Mayan group believed that the start of the 14th b'ak'tun of the current era would lead to the end of the world, there's no need to stop counting at the start of that b'ak'tun, and there are several Mayan inscriptions that anticipate events (such as future anniversary celebrations) taking place after the end of the 13th b'ak'tun.

Note that there are also some rarely-used higher subdivisions above the b'ak'tun which further invalidate the idea that the calendar 'ends' in 2012, and I've simplified the base 20 system for the k'atun and the b'ak'tun, though this is relevant to the discussion (they seem to only go to 13 when they're the highest subdivision counted, but do the full 20 roll-over when the next highest subdivision above them is included in the date). But essentially, the Mayan calendar is capable of expressing dates of hundreds of millenia forwards or backwards when the higher orders are used, and there's no reason to end the calendar at the conclusion of the 13th b'ak'tun.


I therefore expect to wake up on Saturday morning feeling alert and refreshed.


The rest of you, however, may have other ideas....
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Postby Tagmatium » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:21 pm

Wasn't it the 21st when the world was supposed to end?

That's a Friday...
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Postby Chronic Hypersomnia » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:26 pm

Don't worry, folks. I'll save the day. You'll see, nothing will happen.
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Postby Damien Sandow » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:28 pm

I have a 15 year old scotch I'd enjoy having come that Friday, the day after.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:29 pm

Wait, its that close already...
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Postby The BranRiech » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:29 pm

It's quite obvious that the Velociraptors are going to invade using their Bond Villian schemes to take over Ze Vurld!

In all seriousness, I expect it to be a normal friday.

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Postby Mushet » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:29 pm

I've been saying the same thing, anyone who knows shit about the mayan calendar shouldn't have anything to worry about

I also think it's proof of the ignorance of these people claiming when they use the "Aztec" calendar in lieu of the Mayan one in pictures supporting these ridiculous claims
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:29 pm

The day after my final exam. Of course.
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:31 pm

Well, it falls on the LAST day of the school until January, and I don't think it'll happen.
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Postby San Leggera » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:31 pm

Obligatory "But mine was first!" post.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:31 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:The day after my final exam. Of course.

That is one huge pro for me if world ends... I dont have to do five exams in January.
So I am kinda hopping that world ends. Then, in afterlife I can brag about how I could have gotten all A*'s if I was allowed to take the test.
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Postby Alyekra » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:31 pm

I'll probably just play minecraft.
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Postby San Leggera » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:32 pm

I vote that when we wake up on the 22nd, the first thing we do is shout 'He did it! The Doctor saved us!'.
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Postby Vettrera » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:32 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:The day after my final exam. Of course.

It'll be the day of my last exam.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:32 pm

It will be a hateful day on facebook.

I wonder why they couldn't predict their downfall?
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:34 pm

Facebook, Twitter, and every other site with 2012 predictions en masse will crash.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:I wonder why they couldn't predict their downfall?

They did... thats why built a spaceship and escaped to Mars before Spanish conquest.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:36 pm

San Leggera wrote:I vote that when we wake up on the 22nd, the first thing we do is shout 'He did it! The Doctor saved us!'.


Why yes, I will have done, thank you.

You did mean this doctor, didn't you, rather than some other doctor....

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Postby TaQud » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:36 pm

i wonder if this thread will hit 12000 posts before 12/21... :unsure: (or 21/12)
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Postby Madrilena » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:36 pm

I can't even believe that the people are even answering to this thing, despite they answering ironically. Even ironically isn't funny at all. With the Christian predictions about the end of the World since 1994/5 to 2011 I got literally enough. The Mayan predictions make me feel sick.
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Postby New Kriegizstan » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:37 pm

>Dec. 21st: OGM TEH WURLD GON END RUN 4 YUR LIEVS11111111111

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Postby San Leggera » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:39 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
San Leggera wrote:I vote that when we wake up on the 22nd, the first thing we do is shout 'He did it! The Doctor saved us!'.


Why yes, I will have done, thank you.

You did mean this doctor, didn't you, rather than some other doctor....

Doctor what now?
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Postby Tsuntion » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:39 pm

San Leggera wrote:Obligatory "But mine was first!" post.


"My apocalypse happened before yours did! These Mayan upstarts don't know a thing about the end of the world -- why, that was three years ago, on a Tuesday. Seriously, the apocalypses these days are barely noticed!"

Wait, that's not what you meant.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:41 pm

TaQud wrote:i wonder if this thread will hit 12000 posts before 12/21... :unsure: (or 21/12)

Make it so.
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