Hats off to Deputy Sheriff Stan Lenic

[Greed and Death]

People were handing out flyers at the airport.

An airport official, whether his job related to security or not is unknown, was unhappy with the distribution of information. The official attempted to get the two individuals to leave the airport.

Sheriff Deputies were called among them was Sheriff Deputy Stan Lenic. Lenic was professional, courtesy and dignified while he attempted to mediate the dispute. When the official attempted to have the two distributors of flyers removed to arrested Sheriff Lenic refused, even though it would have been the easier course of action.

A news report on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ZiMoo4 ... r_embedded

The video of the encounter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8DmXx5ag-8

When things like this happen, it reminds me that officers are in general good people, and it is the exception rather than the rule of officers abusing their power.

So what says NSG ?

[Ralkovia]

People were handing out flyers at the airport.

An airport official, whether his job related to security or not is unknown, was unhappy with the distribution of information. The official attempted to get the two individuals to leave the airport.

Sheriff Deputies were called among them was Sheriff Deputy Stan Lenic. Lenic was professional, courtesy and dignified while he attempted to mediate the dispute. When the official attempted to have the two distributors of flyers removed to arrested Sheriff Lenic refused, even though it would have been the easier course of action.

A news report on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ZiMoo4 ... r_embedded

The video of the encounter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8DmXx5ag-8

When things like this happen, it reminds me that officers are in general good people, and it is the exception rather than the rule of officers abusing their power.

So what says NSG ?

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

[Souseiseki]

People were handing out flyers at the airport.

An airport official, whether his job related to security or not is unknown, was unhappy with the distribution of information. The official attempted to get the two individuals to leave the airport.

Sheriff Deputies were called among them was Sheriff Deputy Stan Lenic. Lenic was professional, courtesy and dignified while he attempted to mediate the dispute. When the official attempted to have the two distributors of flyers removed to arrested Sheriff Lenic refused, even though it would have been the easier course of action.

A news report on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ZiMoo4 ... r_embedded

The video of the encounter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8DmXx5ag-8

When things like this happen, it reminds me that officers are in general good people, and it is the exception rather than the rule of officers abusing their power.

So what says NSG ?

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

do you not understand the difference between billions of people and an institution

[Galloism]

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

do you not understand the difference between billions of people and an institution

Yes, but why are the Muslim religious institutions better than the individual police officers?

Also, billions is a stretch. I am quite certain there's not even one billion law enforcement officers worldwide.

[GWACA]

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

do you not understand the difference between billions of people and an institution

Do you not understand the similaritys? Inside of those instituions are hardworking people. The marjority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding the law of the land. There is a minority that abuses the power.

Inide of Islam there are hardoworking good people. The majority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding peace and civility. There is a minority that strap bombs to children and shoot civlians.

[Ralkovia]

do you not understand the difference between billions of people and an institution

Do you not understand the similaritys? Inside of those instituions are hardworking people. The marjority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding the law of the land. There is a minority that abuses the power.

Inide of Islam there are hardoworking good people. The majority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding peace and civility. There is a minority that strap bombs to children and shoot civlians.

No. He doesn't. Sous has always come off to me as a standard liberal rank and file member. The only explanation that I can reasonably come up with, why Sous cannot see the difference is that that Islam and its whole composition as a religious institution that consistently falls in the category of "Oppressed by mean Christians" and "Lot's of Brown People" makes it impossible to compare to the institution of "Law Enforcement" which I'm sure is, for him, filled with connotations of "Bullies" and the movie iconic "Corrupt Southern Texas White Sheriff From The USA With A Big Wide Hat and Big Sunglasses" in his mind. Or he might have recently gotten a speeding ticket. I don't really know. Sous is a mystery to me.

But what isn't a mystery to me are the Police. The Officers I have met are some of the nicest and most charitable people I know. Most come from military families or were former military themselves. Most of the police officers I know regularly attend church/synagogue, participate heavily in community programs, and are usually heavily invested in their communities.

Not many people take a dangerous job where everyone thinks you're an asshole, your pay is usually lower than that of a garbageman, and you could die, because they want a pension, want to be in a police chase, or like the power. Most take a job as a Police Officer to...guess what? PROTECT AND SERVE.

[Ifreann]

So we're lauding cops for being professional and not arresting people who don't need arresting? Says a lot.

[Sdaeriji]

G&D, yesterday I sent a FedEx package I was supposed to send, as it is part of my job. Why didn't you create a thread for me?

[The Black Forrest]

"He doesn't have to show you his ID"

I loved that. Kuddos to the Deputy.

If the nasty old white guy is their PR director, they need to replace him.

[Choronzon]

People were handing out flyers at the airport.

An airport official, whether his job related to security or not is unknown, was unhappy with the distribution of information. The official attempted to get the two individuals to leave the airport.

Sheriff Deputies were called among them was Sheriff Deputy Stan Lenic. Lenic was professional, courtesy and dignified while he attempted to mediate the dispute. When the official attempted to have the two distributors of flyers removed to arrested Sheriff Lenic refused, even though it would have been the easier course of action.

A news report on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ZiMoo4 ... r_embedded

The video of the encounter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8DmXx5ag-8

When things like this happen, it reminds me that officers are in general good people, and it is the exception rather than the rule of officers abusing their power.

So what says NSG ?

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

Any story you can find about a cop being a decent you human being I can match with a story about the police being nothing but a gang with a badge- corrupt thugs with the force of the state behind them.

[Imperium Nova Roma]

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

Any story you can find about a cop being a decent you human being I can match with a story about the police being nothing but a gang with a badge- corrupt thugs with the force of the state behind them.

Lol, how ignorant.

[Choronzon]

Any story you can find about a cop being a decent you human being I can match with a story about the police being nothing but a gang with a badge- corrupt thugs with the force of the state behind them.

Lol, how ignorant.

My worldview has been refuted. What a brilliantly untouchable argument you have put forth. You clearly are very wise.

[The Emerald Dawn]

G&D, yesterday I sent a FedEx package I was supposed to send, as it is part of my job. Why didn't you create a thread for me?

Yeah, fuck positive reinforcement being used to counter cultural memes of roving gangs of uncontrollable thugs called "Pigs".

Fuck it right in the ass.

[Souseiseki]

Do you not understand the similaritys? Inside of those instituions are hardworking people. The marjority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding the law of the land. There is a minority that abuses the power.

Inide of Islam there are hardoworking good people. The majority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding peace and civility. There is a minority that strap bombs to children and shoot civlians.

No. He doesn't. Sous has always come off to me as a standard liberal rank and file member. The fact that Islam is a religious institution that consistently falls in the category of "Oppressed by mean Christians" and "Lot's of Brown People" makes it impossible to compare to the institution of "Law Enforcement" which I'm sure is, for him, filled with connotations of "Bullies" and the movie iconic "Corrupt Southern Texas White Sheriff From The USA With A Big Wide Hat and Big Sunglasses" in his mind. Or he might have recently gotten a speeding ticket. I don't really know. Sous is a mystery to me.

But what isn't a mystery to me are the Police. The Officers I have met are some of the nicest and most charitable people I know. Most come from military families or were former military themselves. Most of the police officers I know regularly attend church/synagogue, participate heavily in community programs, and are usually heavily invested in their communities.

Not many people take a dangerous job where everyone thinks you're an asshole, your pay is usually lower than that of a garbageman, and you could die, because they want a pension, want to be in a police chase, or like the power. Most take a job as a Police Officer to...guess what? PROTECT AND SERVE.

yes, even as only a woman opposed to liberalism, i definitely seem to be a mystery to you.

if we're comparing it to religion because if we compare to it the muslims baby killer terrorists i can defeat the liberals with their own logic, being a police officer is more being a priest in the catholic church than being a muslim. there is no equivalent of "i don't really go to religious services or follow the book but my dad was a muslim and i'm a muslim!!!" for police officers.

if you want to be a cathoic priest or a police officer you need to be in the institutions whereas any punter can call themselves a muslim or a christian. i mean, fuck, what? hopefully someone else will explain it better than me because for fucks sake isn't it obvious?

you keep talking about how they're all military families and were former military members and oh god do we all just love the military. it's funny because people always complain about how the police are becoming more paramilitary and i'm struggling to think of one example where taking soldiers and putting them into a police role ended up not resulting in shit

as a sidenote, have you ever looked at the list of most dangerous jobs and the breakdown of police fatalities?

[Tekania]

So we're lauding cops for being professional and not arresting people who don't need arresting? Says a lot.

It's the entitlement culture. People wanting gold stars for doing their job.

[Ifreann]

So we're lauding cops for being professional and not arresting people who don't need arresting? Says a lot.

It's the entitlement culture. People wanting gold stars for doing their job.

I thought deputies got gold stars as part of their uniform...

[The Emerald Dawn]

It's the entitlement culture. People wanting gold stars for doing their job.

I thought deputies got gold stars as part of their uniform...

Only the little ones.

[Souseiseki]

do you not understand the difference between billions of people and an institution

Do you not understand the similaritys? Inside of those instituions are hardworking people. The marjority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding the law of the land. There is a minority that abuses the power.

Inide of Islam there are hardoworking good people. The majority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding peace and civility. There is a minority that strap bombs to children and shoot civlians.

abuse the power? what power do muslims have?

the similarities don't go beyond "hey, this is a group! sort of.". even at the most basic level it falls apart. one is an identity and one is a bloody job, an official position. you can't self-identity as a police officer but oh i'm not a very observant police officer. it's completely and utterly absurd.

i guess you could argue there's one or two specific requirement for being a muslim, believe in god and read this book. whereas, to take the official job and position of a police officer...

and even then we live in a world where most people don't actually read the bible/qur'an and we get polls where a large portion of french catholics don't even believe in god. did i mention how completely and utterly absurd this was?

[Sdaeriji]

G&D, yesterday I sent a FedEx package I was supposed to send, as it is part of my job. Why didn't you create a thread for me?

Yeah, fuck positive reinforcement being used to counter cultural memes of roving gangs of uncontrollable thugs called "Pigs".

Fuck it right in the ass.

Are their egos so unbelievably fragile that they need constant positive reinforcement every time they do the thing that they are paid to do? We shouldn't have to laud police officers for doing their jobs. That should be the baseline expectation. It's a commentary on how exceptionally low our expectations are for cops that we feel the need to publicly congratulate them every time they avoid an opportunity to abuse their authority.

The cop in New York who bought the homeless guy some boots: worthy of praise. This cop not abusing his authority even though he could have: not worthy of praise.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Yeah, fuck positive reinforcement being used to counter cultural memes of roving gangs of uncontrollable thugs called "Pigs".

Fuck it right in the ass.

Are their egos so unbelievably fragile that they need constant positive reinforcement every time they do the thing that they are paid to do? We shouldn't have to laud police officers for doing their jobs. That should be the baseline expectation. It's a commentary on how exceptionally low our expectations are for cops that we feel the need to publicly congratulate them every time they avoid an opportunity to abuse their authority.

The cop in New York who bought the homeless guy some boots: worthy of praise. This cop not abusing his authority even though he could have: not worthy of praise.

Oh, neat. Reducing to absurdity.

No, see, what they are is human. They're prone to the same pressures from peer groups and supervisors that all humans are. Receiving praise from people reinforces their connection to those people. So if they receive praise from the people they protect, they'll feel more keenly the urge to protect them. It's called "Social Conditioning". You should look it up.

[Tekania]

It's the entitlement culture. People wanting gold stars for doing their job.

I thought deputies got gold stars as part of their uniform...

See, they want a gold star just for being a deputy.... talk about entitlement!

[The Black Forrest]

So we're lauding cops for being professional and not arresting people who don't need arresting? Says a lot.

If you looked at the news link the deputy said just that he was just doing his job.....

[Sdaeriji]

Are their egos so unbelievably fragile that they need constant positive reinforcement every time they do the thing that they are paid to do? We shouldn't have to laud police officers for doing their jobs. That should be the baseline expectation. It's a commentary on how exceptionally low our expectations are for cops that we feel the need to publicly congratulate them every time they avoid an opportunity to abuse their authority.

The cop in New York who bought the homeless guy some boots: worthy of praise. This cop not abusing his authority even though he could have: not worthy of praise.

Oh, neat. Reducing to absurdity.

No, see, what they are is human. They're prone to the same pressures from peer groups and supervisors that all humans are. Receiving praise from people reinforces their connection to those people. So if they receive praise from the people they protect, they'll feel more keenly the urge to protect them. It's called "Social Conditioning". You should look it up.

I don't think you understand what reduction to absurdity means.

[Ralkovia]

No. He doesn't. Sous has always come off to me as a standard liberal rank and file member. The fact that Islam is a religious institution that consistently falls in the category of "Oppressed by mean Christians" and "Lot's of Brown People" makes it impossible to compare to the institution of "Law Enforcement" which I'm sure is, for him, filled with connotations of "Bullies" and the movie iconic "Corrupt Southern Texas White Sheriff From The USA With A Big Wide Hat and Big Sunglasses" in his mind. Or he might have recently gotten a speeding ticket. I don't really know. Sous is a mystery to me.

But what isn't a mystery to me are the Police. The Officers I have met are some of the nicest and most charitable people I know. Most come from military families or were former military themselves. Most of the police officers I know regularly attend church/synagogue, participate heavily in community programs, and are usually heavily invested in their communities.

Not many people take a dangerous job where everyone thinks you're an asshole, your pay is usually lower than that of a garbageman, and you could die, because they want a pension, want to be in a police chase, or like the power. Most take a job as a Police Officer to...guess what? PROTECT AND SERVE.

yes, even as only a woman opposed to liberalism, i definitely seem to be a mystery to you.

if we're comparing it to religion because if we compare to it the muslims baby killer terrorists i can defeat the liberals with their own logic, being a police officer is more being a priest in the catholic church than being a muslim. there is no equivalent of "i don't really go to religious services or follow the book but my dad was a muslim and i'm a muslim!!!" for police officers.

if you want to be a cathoic priest or a police officer you need to be in the institutions whereas any punter can call themselves a muslim or a christian. i mean, fuck, what? hopefully someone else will explain it better than me because for fucks sake isn't it obvious?

you keep talking about how they're all military families and were former military members and oh god do we all just love the military. it's funny because people always complain about how the police are becoming more paramilitary and i'm struggling to think of one example where taking soldiers and putting them into a police role ended up not resulting in shit

as a sidenote, have you ever looked at the list of most dangerous jobs and the breakdown of police fatalities?

It looks like you took a giant shit of text blocks. I'm not comparing it to religion. Nice going missing the point entirely.

Seriously, though. Take a step back and read.

The point I made is media "stereotypes" don't often live up to expectations.

Unless you want to make the point that all Muslims are assholes, because I'd be really impressed if you did.

[Ethel mermania]

while we are complimenting cops:


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/times_sq_cop_heart_and_sole_26ZIKgJnNDtxuhX0fCclcO

from the post
he NYPD cop who spent his hard-earned cash on a frigid night to buy boots for a shivering homeless man recalled the encounter as “humbling.”

“It’s what I felt I had to do,” DePrimo said yesterday of the Nov. 14 encounter in Times Square. “I just looked down at this gentleman’s feet, and you could see the blisters . . . It was just so cold that I had to do something.”

Moved by the unidentified man’s suffering, DePrimo spent about $50 to buy boots and socks. He put them on the man’s feet himself.

“What sticks out in my mind is that he was just such a kind gentleman that I really had to help him,” DePrimo said. “I wanted to. It’s a very humbling experience.”