The abolishion of sigarrets

[The United Imperial Kingdom]

I purpose a worldwide ban on the production of sigarrets. It is understandable that governments around the world make billions from exporting tobacco, but this money can be found somewhere else by increasing exports in other areas. If a ban is not possible we should at least introduce a maximum sale rate to individuals on a weekly basis.

[Tuthina]

I purpose a worldwide ban on the production of sigarrets. It is understandable that governments around the world make billions from exporting tobacco, but this money can be found somewhere else by increasing exports in other areas. If a ban is not possible we should at least introduce a maxiumum sale rate to individuals on a weekly basis.

Umm... why?
Also, spellings.

[The United Imperial Kingdom]

My government spends hundreds of millions on treating people with sigarret related illnesses.

[Demirysis]

Deleted.

[Tuthina]

My government spends hundreds of millions on treating people with sigarret related illnesses.

...and? If you do not bother to post your entire argument, then you cannot expect anyone with half a brain to bother to support you.
Also, spellings.

[Khanastan]

Tobacco companies shouldn't revive government subsidies, but, if a person wants to smoke, let them. It their health, let them smoke if they want. Not my problem, i'm sure the government could care less. They have the information, they know the risks, let them do whatever they want. No need to abolish an enterprising industry.

[Kakistopolis]

Smokers should be welcomed everywhere they go. They voluntarily pay higher taxes than you, buying a product that the government subsidizes.

If you want fresh air, go the !@#$ outside.

[Lorei]

I can't take you seriously in the slightest if you can't spell the item in question correctly. Assuming you mean cigarettes, as in cigar.
If you're actually serious about this; then get a spellchecker and someone to be a proofreader. Then try typing up a proposal for consideration; and listening to the critics before pushing for a vote to be made.

As for this thread; I direct your attention to the GA Rules for Proposals, specifically;
"... GA Proposals must be more than just rhetoric. While they need not be written like real world international treaties, they do need to be more than just your opinion. Essays belong in the General Forum, not the WA floor."
This is not the place, your post was poorly assembled and badly misspelled, provided no reasoning or a balanced argument addressing both sides and implies you haven't read the stickied rule threads.

While I personally support the banning or restriction of tobacco smoking; this is just insulting.

[Abacathea]

His highest lordship HRM Pip will address the floor!

If you take issue with cigarettes you are free under your own sovereignty to outlaw them and their trade within your nation as you see fit, the Acathean government however enjoys nothing more than a smoke and coffee at the end of a hard day and will meet this proposal with ferocious venom should it be drafted. We are not above going to war for our first smoke in the morning!

His highest lordship HRM Pip

[Khanastan]

Smokers should be welcomed everywhere they go. They voluntarily pay higher taxes than you, buying a product that the government subsidizes.

If you want fresh air, go the !@#$ outside.

So, let me get this straight.

"I pay extra money to harm my own health and that of others around me, therefore, I am better than you, and deserve to be treated as such."

Correct me if i'm wrong.

I can't take you seriously in the slightest if you can't spell the item in question correctly. Assuming you mean cigarettes, as in cigar.
If you're actually serious about this; then get a spellchecker and someone to be a proofreader. Then try typing up a proposal for consideration; and listening to the critics before pushing for a vote to be made.

As for this thread; I direct your attention to the GA Rules for Proposals, specifically;
"... GA Proposals must be more than just rhetoric. While they need not be written like real world international treaties, they do need to be more than just your opinion. Essays belong in the General Forum, not the WA floor."
This is not the place, your post was poorly assembled and badly misspelled, provided no reasoning or a balanced argument addressing both sides and implies you haven't read the stickied rule threads.

While I personally support the banning or restriction of tobacco smoking; this is just insulting.

Why would you want to ban tobacco smoking? The obvious answer being improved health in general after a while. A pro.

Now, lets look at the cons. Illegal tobacco farming and trading occurs, a rise in crime results. Tobacco farmers are out of the job. Everyone in the tobacco business is out of a job. The hundreds of billions of dollars, most probably, that cycles through the tobacco industry goes with them. The government loses bonds. Communities in the nations which grow tobacco become fractured, social problems and unemployment skyrocket. The companies which produce the chemicals which go into the smokes die off.

Already, we're looking at a cycle of massive unemployment and financial loss and i've left stuff out.

[Lorei]

Why would you want to ban tobacco smoking? The obvious answer being improved health in general after a while. A pro.

Now, lets look at the cons. Illegal tobacco farming and trading occurs, a rise in crime results. Tobacco farmers are out of the job. Everyone in the tobacco business is out of a job. The hundreds of billions of dollars, most probably, that cycles through the tobacco industry goes with them. The government loses bonds. Communities in the nations which grow tobacco become fractured, social problems and unemployment skyrocket. The companies which produce the chemicals which go into the smokes die off.

Already, we're looking at a cycle of massive unemployment and financial loss and i've left stuff out.

Oh, I'd *like* tobacco smoking to be banned, that doesn't mean I think it's feasible. You're quite right, outright banning of a substance rarely works. The prohibition era in America, or cannibis smoking today just makes the whole idea laughable.
Restricting the amount purchasable per person and attempting to apply a social stigma to smoking strikes me as a reasonable compromise however. Restricting advertising is an obvious choice to take as well.
Some countries have outlawed smoking in public areas, in- and out-side, thereby forcing those who wish to smoke to do in their own property or in designated smoking areas on private property, Ireland for example.
This is probably the limit that could be done in controlling smoking of tobacco in a society similar to the modern world. NS police-states and heavily religious Nations could possibly do away with it altogether, but I'm assuming a culture similar to Western Civilisation here.

[Kryozerkia]

This is not a general discussion forum. Post your proposal so players can critique it.

[Dagguerro]

Why would you want to ban tobacco smoking? The obvious answer being improved health in general after a while. A pro.

Now, lets look at the cons. Illegal tobacco farming and trading occurs, a rise in crime results. Tobacco farmers are out of the job. Everyone in the tobacco business is out of a job. The hundreds of billions of dollars, most probably, that cycles through the tobacco industry goes with them. The government loses bonds. Communities in the nations which grow tobacco become fractured, social problems and unemployment skyrocket. The companies which produce the chemicals which go into the smokes die off.

Already, we're looking at a cycle of massive unemployment and financial loss and i've left stuff out.

Oh, I'd *like* tobacco smoking to be banned, that doesn't mean I think it's feasible. You're quite right, outright banning of a substance rarely works. The prohibition era in America, or cannibis smoking today just makes the whole idea laughable.
Restricting the amount purchasable per person and attempting to apply a social stigma to smoking strikes me as a reasonable compromise however. Restricting advertising is an obvious choice to take as well.
Some countries have outlawed smoking in public areas, in- and out-side, thereby forcing those who wish to smoke to do in their own property or in designated smoking areas on private property, Ireland for example.
This is probably the limit that could be done in controlling smoking of tobacco in a society similar to the modern world. NS police-states and heavily religious Nations could possibly do away with it altogether, but I'm assuming a culture similar to Western Civilisation here.

Personally I always liked the idea of making it prescription-only.

[United Federation of Canada]

What IN THE HELL is a sigarret?

If you mean a Cigarette then no let's not ban them. It would cause universal riots and murder rates would shoot through the roof, with people looking for a fix.

[Varnashrama Dharma Goloka]

Good.
In my nation the hare krishna Bhramachari not smoke Cygarrettes.

[Koraka]

My government spends hundreds of millions on treating people with sigarret related illnesses.

Then it seems to be more of a problem with your healthcare then the actual product.

[Dagguerro]

What IN THE HELL is a sigarret?

(OOC: In all seriousness when I first saw this thread I thought he just didn't know how to spell "ziggurats". And then wondered why anyone would want to ban them. >_>)

[The United Imperial Kingdom]

May I point out that's how you spell cigarettes in the Welsh language. Your incompetence amazes me.

[Abacathea]

May I point out that's how you spell cigarettes in the Welsh language. Your incompetence amazes me.

Wouldn't it have ten thousand unrequired L's thrown into the mix?

[Lorei]

May I point out that's how you spell cigarettes in the Welsh language. Your incompetence amazes me.

Firstly, I'm pretty sure you mean ignorance.
Secondly, this is an English-using website. Do I have to quote more rules at you?
Thirdly, why should we know the Welsh for cigarettes?

Nobody else uses words from other languages for no reason. Should we sprinkle our text with Vietnamese and Latin?

Please. Please.. PLEASE use a spellchecker, Chrome has one built in! Edit posts where you see typos, just.. just don't make mistakes like this.

[Araraukar]

May I point out that's how you spell cigarettes in the Welsh language. Your incompetence amazes me.

These forums, however, are in English. Had your entire proposal (not that you have one, yet) been in Welsh, then you'd have a leg to stand on, but using just one word of another language in an otherwise English text? Good luck justifying all spelling errors with that.

Anyway, as the moderator said before, this isn't a discussion forum, so you need to post a proper proposal, not just your opinion.

[Kryozerkia]

May I point out that's how you spell cigarettes in the Welsh language. Your incompetence amazes me.

Sure, if you want to misspell it. Also, are you just going to argue or are you going to post a proposal?

[Flibbleites]

May I point out that's how you spell cigarettes in the Welsh language. Your incompetence amazes me.

First off, not everyone knows Welsh so it's perfectly understandable that some people wouldn't know that.

Secondly, you might want to take a gander at the Proposal Rules, specifically the part about Proposal Language in the Format section, which for your convenience, I'll quote here.

Proposal language

Not everybody speaks English as a first language (or at all, for that matter). Unfortunately, NS is a game in English. If you cannot compose in proper English, seek the help of somebody (hint-hint, run it through an online translator and post here for clean-up). A Proposal won't be nuked for the occasional typo, but if players and Mods have to spend a good chunk of time trying to figure out what's going on, it'll be nuked.

Proposals written entirely in other languages are out, too.

[Charles Cerebella]

While I'm hardly a fan of tobacco products my nation believes in the right of people to smoke what they want as long as they don't harm others and as such I don't support any proposal to abolish them.

[Archlemeinge]

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