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Turmash
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Founded: Sep 23, 2012
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Allowance to World Assembly

Postby Turmash » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:40 pm

I believe that people should only be allowed to join the World Assembly if they prove that they actually focus on the issues. I've seen numerous times where something is either accepted or denied due solely to the fact of the title and not what was written. For instance, the most recent: Condemn World Alliance.

Here is the description:
Noticing the lies and secrecy that shrouds the World Alliance
Appalled by the fact that the founder doesn't tell the truth about its past to its members
Disappointed that the region has taken action against a nation Twice for the same crime
And In Shock that that the region does not give nations a chance to explain before they take action without even listening to the facts


People only saw that the title stated "Condemn World Alliance" meaning that they condemn alliances worldwide (well, game-wide) as a whole rather than a region. I believe there should be a better way to prove that you WILL READ the description before mindlessly choosing to vote for or against.

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Jamie Anumia
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:05 am

Making people 'qualify' to join the World Assembly would destroy Raiding & Defending. So, I'd be opposed to this idea.

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Turmash
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Postby Turmash » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:15 am

Well, there's always a way that we can adhere to that. It just aggravates me that people are recklessly choosing because of the vast majority either altogether or by what their region decided. Not only that, but when someone reads the title, they automatically assume one thing when it could be something different. I'm just saying, people need to either read or we need a better WA system.

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Postby Galiantus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:05 am

Turmash wrote:Well, there's always a way that we can adhere to that. It just aggravates me that people are recklessly choosing because of the vast majority either altogether or by what their region decided. Not only that, but when someone reads the title, they automatically assume one thing when it could be something different. I'm just saying, people need to either read or we need a better WA system.


Well a lot of people are involved in the WA just so they can participate in regional politics. Would you support separating regional controls from the World Assembly entirely?
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Postby Firstaria » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:22 am

Galiantus wrote:
Turmash wrote:Well, there's always a way that we can adhere to that. It just aggravates me that people are recklessly choosing because of the vast majority either altogether or by what their region decided. Not only that, but when someone reads the title, they automatically assume one thing when it could be something different. I'm just saying, people need to either read or we need a better WA system.


Well a lot of people are involved in the WA just so they can participate in regional politics. Would you support separating regional controls from the World Assembly entirely?


I would, it would make possible for nice things like voting to expel a WA member possible, and let's admit it, if you ignore the R/D game, it's actually a nice mechanic that would make a lot of fun, a sort of extreme condemnation.
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Jamie Anumia
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:25 am

Firstaria wrote:
Galiantus wrote:
Well a lot of people are involved in the WA just so they can participate in regional politics. Would you support separating regional controls from the World Assembly entirely?


I would, it would make possible for nice things like voting to expel a WA member possible, and let's admit it, if you ignore the R/D game, it's actually a nice mechanic that would make a lot of fun, a sort of extreme condemnation.

Removing WA members should stay with the moderators. It does not need to be complicated by allowing a vote on whether to kick someone out of the WA. Which I personally would consider unfair if something like that emerged.

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Galiantus
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Postby Galiantus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:54 am

Jamie Anumia wrote:
Firstaria wrote:
I would, it would make possible for nice things like voting to expel a WA member possible, and let's admit it, if you ignore the R/D game, it's actually a nice mechanic that would make a lot of fun, a sort of extreme condemnation.

Removing WA members should stay with the moderators. It does not need to be complicated by allowing a vote on whether to kick someone out of the WA. Which I personally would consider unfair if something like that emerged.


It could be interesting to see player-initiated bans, but as long as the WA has any connection to the R/D game whatsoever I will be strongly against it. Otherwise, I don't care what the Mods do.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:56 am

i. How would you prove they did?
ii. How could you make sue they keep doing so?
iii. How long would it take to approve people?
iv. How would you approve people?
v. Who would approve people?
vi. This would ruin the raiding game.
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Postby Zaolat » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:26 pm

This will affect R/D to strongly, and kicking players by players is just waiting for abuse of the system. I'm entirely opposed to this idea.

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