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Postby Not Safe For Work » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:18 pm

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Terraius wrote:He should choose to have him donate to his reelection campaign.

No, to Planned Parenthood.


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Postby Laerod » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:21 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:No, to Planned Parenthood.

Is there a charity for balding men who can't afford Mr. Trump's signature do?

Surely there's something involving kids getting chemotherapy? That way you can actually help people that really need it while drawing attention to his ridiculous toupee.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:45 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Is there a charity for balding men who can't afford Mr. Trump's signature do?

Surely there's something involving kids getting chemotherapy? That way you can actually help people that really need it while drawing attention to his ridiculous toupee.

I like the sound of this.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:54 pm

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Terraius wrote:He should choose to have him donate to his reelection campaign.

No, to Planned Parenthood.


Is that a charity?
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Postby Laerod » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:13 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:No, to Planned Parenthood.


Is that a charity?

A charitable cause? Most certainly.

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Postby Abatael » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:20 pm

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Is that a charity?

A charitable cause? Most certainly.


No, it wasn't if it was a "charitable" cause. It was asked if it was a charity. Since you didn't say yes, I'm assuming it isn't.
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Postby Holy Land of New Ireland » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:23 pm

This is getting stupid. I am planning to vote for Mitt. But I recognize that Obama was born here. He's an American.

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Postby Revolutopia » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:42 pm

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Laerod wrote:A charitable cause? Most certainly.


No, it wasn't if it was a "charitable" cause. It was asked if it was a charity. Since you didn't say yes, I'm assuming it isn't.


What do you define as a charity?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:53 pm

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Abatael wrote:
Is that a charity?

A charitable cause? Most certainly.

Planned Parenthood is a 501(c)(4) organization.

501(c)(4) organizations are generally civic leagues and other corporations operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare, or local associations of employees with membership limited to a designated company or people in a particular municipality or neighborhood, and with net earnings devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.[32] 501(c)(4) organizations may lobby for legislation, and unlike 501(c)(3) organizations they may also participate in political campaigns and elections, as long as its primary activity is the promotion of social welfare.[33] The tax exemption for 501(c)(4) organizations applies to most of their operations, but contributions may be subject to gift tax, and income spent on political activities - generally the advocacy of a particular candidate in an election - is taxable.[34]

Contributions to 501(c)(4) organizations are usually not deductible as charitable contributions for U.S. federal income tax, with a few exceptions.[35] 501(c)(4) organizations are not required to disclose their donors publicly.[36] This aspect of the law has led to extensive use of the 501(c)(4) provisions for organizations that are actively involved in lobbying, and has become controversial.[37][38]

I don't much care if PP meets anyone's definition of a charity. Trump's $5 million was never in danger of leaving his pocket because he knows that these demands are bogus and the President is not going to answer them. This is politics mixed with Trump's need to get some free publicity for his TV show. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Postby Gumbylanda » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:58 pm

Cromarty wrote:Trump should donate the money anyway.



YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT!

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:00 pm

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Cromarty wrote:Trump should donate the money anyway.



YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT!

He won't. He knew he'd never have donate a penny. These are ridiculous demands based on old Birther lies.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:06 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
No, it wasn't if it was a "charitable" cause. It was asked if it was a charity. Since you didn't say yes, I'm assuming it isn't.


What do you define as a charity?


An organization, which exists to help those in need or provide educational, scientific, religious and artistic assistance to members of the public. Charities they have to be established under state guidelines, and they need to have IRS approval in order for contributions to them to be deductible from gross income by donors.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:36 pm

Abatael wrote:
Laerod wrote:A charitable cause? Most certainly.


No, it wasn't if it was a "charitable" cause. It was asked if it was a charity. Since you didn't say yes, I'm assuming it isn't.


Yes it is, you can make a 501c donation to it.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:45 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Abatael wrote:
No, it wasn't if it was a "charitable" cause. It was asked if it was a charity. Since you didn't say yes, I'm assuming it isn't.


Yes it is, you can make a 501c donation to it.


Then, thank you for answering.

The 'c' is in parentheses by the way. Like 501(c).
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Postby Revolutopia » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:58 pm

Abatael wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:
What do you define as a charity?


An organization, which exists to help those in need or provide educational, scientific, religious and artistic assistance to members of the public. Charities they have to be established under state guidelines, and they need to have IRS approval in order for contributions to them to be deductible from gross income by donors.


Well, Planned Parenthood provides medical assistance to the public thus it counts as a charity.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:00 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
An organization, which exists to help those in need or provide educational, scientific, religious and artistic assistance to members of the public. Charities they have to be established under state guidelines, and they need to have IRS approval in order for contributions to them to be deductible from gross income by donors.


Well, Planned Parenthood provides medical assistance to the public thus it counts as a charity.


But does has it been established under state guidelines, and does it have the IRS approval?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:00 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
An organization, which exists to help those in need or provide educational, scientific, religious and artistic assistance to members of the public. Charities they have to be established under state guidelines, and they need to have IRS approval in order for contributions to them to be deductible from gross income by donors.


Well, Planned Parenthood provides medical assistance to the public thus it counts as a charity.

And educational and scientific assistance.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:06 pm

Abatael wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:
Well, Planned Parenthood provides medical assistance to the public thus it counts as a charity.


But does has it been established under state guidelines, and does it have the IRS approval?

It has been appropriately established under state law and the various branches of planned parenthood have all, to my knowledge, received the appropriate acceptance of classification.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:09 pm

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But does has it been established under state guidelines, and does it have the IRS approval?

It has been appropriately established under state law and the various branches of planned parenthood have all, to my knowledge, received the appropriate acceptance of classification.


I was illustrating the point that, simply because it fulfills a criterion of three criteria does not mean it is a charity. It may be; I'm not arguing against that. He just pointed out that it has fulfilled only one of the three points.
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Postby West Sylvania » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:39 am

Donald Trump is politically irrelevant. He's a conman and a parasite that does more to prove the stereotype of the entitled 1% than any human on earth.

It would be just as relevant if Snookie offered to donate money to the charity of Romney's choice in exchange for his most recent bank statement.

Who cares?

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Postby Warkus » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:45 am

Oh, look, it's this guy again.

I don't know what baffles me more, birthers like Donald Trump, or the writers of the constitution who thought that where you were born should determine if you'd be allowed to run for president.
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Postby Cameroi » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:45 am

yah sure. what has that got to do with his qualifications and abilities to do the actual job as president? also like; is this for real, or just another silly onion article, or the like?

the world is full of absolute geniiuses and near geniuses, who have made significant contributions to humanity, who's academic records were absolutely abysmal, so even if this is true, about trump, its just being increadibly silly. where as there IS a point about romney's tax records. THAT's about honesty and lack of it. and DOES directly pertain to the roll of the presidency.
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