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Postby United Middle East » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:44 pm

Tenden wrote:So,the Republican party has become nothing more than racial and religious, anti-abortion zealots, homophobes, gun nuts, jingoists and war hungry bigots.Abraham was the first Republican president,and his republicans would be disappointed with modern republicans.They have went from the party that ended slavery to the party that supports segregation.They have went from the party of liberty to the new far-right wing party of the US.They seem to have abandoned him and decided to join the party of Ronald Reagen.What ever happened to Abraham's Republican Party? Are there any Republicans who are still the party of Abraham Lincoln?

To be frank, Abraham Lincoln never said anything about "allow abortion", "religion is sick", "homosexuality is totally right", or "gun is the master of death". He just end slavery. And that's why I like him. He's the sanest American President.
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Postby Not Safe For Work » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:49 pm

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But Gore can win either, he's bad to.

If Ralph Nader won it, we'd be okay. And 9/11 didn't make people hate America, Bush's reaction to it did.

Meh, Kennedy started the Vietnam War, he would've been the same or worse than Johnson(who actually gets a pretty bad rep, unfairly) and his administration.

I think when Reagan beat Carter, that's when we started to go down a bad path. Not because Reagan was necessarily "bad" Carter necessarily "good", just the ideological switch that occurred as a result was bad for the country as a whole I think.


Up until Reagan, there was a kind of partnership between people and government. Reagan ran the idea that people and government were actually enemies, and America has yet to recover.
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Postby Confederate Socialist States of America » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:50 pm

Republicans have always been warmongering sociopaths. What do you the Civil War was?

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Postby Free Soviets » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:57 pm

Confederate Socialist States of America wrote:Republicans have always been warmongering sociopaths. What do you the Civil War was?

conservative southern slaver scum launching a war of aggression because a member of the anti-slavery party had the nerve to get elected president?

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Postby Long Island Nation » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:11 pm

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Think of it this way: in 150 years the world is a lot smaller. The rebs were a threat to us and the world, Iraq wasn't a real threat to us but it was being run by a bloody tyrant and major league azzhole.

Also, I find it funny that most blacks are Dems yet black poverty has risen under Obama. What have they done for African Americans? Also, there are plenty of black people who will vote for Obama because of his (half) race - even Samuel L. Jackson.

It never ceases to amaze me, your unwillingness to type a swear word.

Guess what? In a recession, poverty goes up. And black people are people! So when Obama came into office during a recession, black poverty went up! Holy shit dude! And it's ridiculous to think that Samuel L. Jackson is voting for Obama on race. If I remember correctly, the same black celebrities supported Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. But Obama's black, so, affirmative action, duh.


Most of the people who use this forum are kids, by the way. AFAIK this is often used as an educational tool. So, until satan grows a cunt, I will refrain from typing profanities.

About Jackson:
http://news.yahoo.com/samuel-l-jackson- ... 06076.html

About poverty:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 60345.html

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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:16 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Confederate Socialist States of America wrote:Republicans have always been warmongering sociopaths. What do you the Civil War was?

conservative southern slaver scum launching a war of aggression because a member of the anti-slavery party had the nerve to get elected president?



Southern scum?

That's not xenophobic or offensive at all.
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:17 pm

Long Island Nation wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:It never ceases to amaze me, your unwillingness to type a swear word.

Guess what? In a recession, poverty goes up. And black people are people! So when Obama came into office during a recession, black poverty went up! Holy shit dude! And it's ridiculous to think that Samuel L. Jackson is voting for Obama on race. If I remember correctly, the same black celebrities supported Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. But Obama's black, so, affirmative action, duh.


Most of the people who use this forum are kids, by the way. AFAIK this is often used as an educational tool. So, until satan grows a cunt, I will refrain from typing profanities.

About Jackson:
http://news.yahoo.com/samuel-l-jackson- ... 06076.html

About poverty:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 60345.html


You have just said the word cunt.

Anyways, most of the kids on here swear anyways.
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Postby Free Soviets » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:20 pm

North California wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:conservative southern slaver scum launching a war of aggression because a member of the anti-slavery party had the nerve to get elected president?

Southern scum?

That's not xenophobic or offensive at all.

indeed it is not. slaver scum are scum regardless of where they live. it happens to be the case that some of the worst slaver scum - and the only people relevant to the US civil war - were southerners.taking offense at this is like being offended that the sky is blue.

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Postby Confederate Socialist States of America » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:39 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Confederate Socialist States of America wrote:Republicans have always been warmongering sociopaths. What do you the Civil War was?

conservative southern slaver scum launching a war of aggression because a member of the anti-slavery party had the nerve to get elected president?


Please go on and keep drinking the Kool Aid. Never question how the blessed leader of the anti-slavery party signed police state laws that make the Patriot Act and NDAA look like human rights benchmarks and how the U.S. has gleefully embarked on a bloodthirsty campaign of slaughter since.
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Postby Free Soviets » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:08 pm

Confederate Socialist States of America wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:conservative southern slaver scum launching a war of aggression because a member of the anti-slavery party had the nerve to get elected president?


Please go on and keep drinking the Kool Aid. Never question how the blessed leader of the anti-slavery party signed police state laws that make the Patriot Act and NDAA look like human rights benchmarks and how the U.S. has gleefully embarked on a bloodthirsty campaign of slaughter since.

haha, oh you lincoln-haters. his actions didn't happen in a vaccuum. they take place in the context of a massive attempted coup that degenerated into a war of aggression, with the traitorous slaver scum setting up their capital a mere 100 miles away. lincoln was too easy on 'em.

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Postby Zephie » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:25 pm

Augarundus wrote:
Tenden wrote:So,the Republican party has become nothing more than racial and religious, anti-abortion zealots, homophobes, gun nuts, jingoists and war hungry bigots.

Nice OP.

Fact of the matter is that the Republicans of the 1850s-1870s were also racist, religious (actually, comparatively a lot more zealous than southernors), war-hungry jingoists. The only thing that has changed is that modern Republicans are generally implicitly, not explicitly, racist.

Hahahaha :rofl:
Racist, compared to... The Democrats? Who passed 99.9% of all laws like the Jim Crow laws that prevented blacks from being treated like people? The same party that wanted to KEEP slavery? :rofl:
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Postby Jinos » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:26 pm

Confederate Socialist States of America wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:conservative southern slaver scum launching a war of aggression because a member of the anti-slavery party had the nerve to get elected president?


Please go on and keep drinking the Kool Aid. Never question how the blessed leader of the anti-slavery party signed police state laws that make the Patriot Act and NDAA look like human rights benchmarks and how the U.S. has gleefully embarked on a bloodthirsty campaign of slaughter since.


"Police state laws" like the suspension of habeas corpus? Which is totally constitutional in a time of war or insurrection? Or conscription? Also totally constitutional in a time of insurrection?

Lincoln wasn't even "anti-slavery." At best, before the war he was merely "slavery tolerant."

Face it, the South was just looking for an excuse and Lincoln happened to be their scapegoat because the nation didn't hand them the executive office on a silver platter for the umpteenth time.

Lincoln also did not "gleefully" participate in the civil war. If you bothered to read ANY of his personal documents, you'd know that the Civil War was one of the most brutally depressing issues of his tenure that bothered him tremendously. The only reason Lincoln didn't surrender to the copperheads is because he steadfastly believed in a UNITED States.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:37 am

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