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Postby Socialist EU » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:58 am

Saluterre wrote:
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I wish you all the best of luck in the elections, I'd be interested to see what percentage of the vote your party gets and whether they increase their vote count.*

*Of course, using 'official' election results doesn't give you a very good idea of how they went, they're often referred to as 'other'.


Fair point. We'll see soon enough. I know we won't have a "President Stewart Alexander," but t'll be interesting to see if a third party gets more than one percent, preferably not the Constitution or Libertarian parties.


I'll be TG'ing you post election, :p I'll be curious myself.
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Postby Wamitoria » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:20 am

Saluterre wrote:
Socialist EU wrote:
I wish you all the best of luck in the elections, I'd be interested to see what percentage of the vote your party gets and whether they increase their vote count.*

*Of course, using 'official' election results doesn't give you a very good idea of how they went, they're often referred to as 'other'.


Fair point. We'll see soon enough. I know we won't have a "President Stewart Alexander," but t'll be interesting to see if a third party gets more than one percent, preferably not the Constitution or Libertarian parties.

If any one party gets more than 1% of the vote, it'll probably be the Libertarian Party.

Much higher name recognition than the various socialist parties, and the Green Party is pretty much hated by many people.
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Postby Socialist EU » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:32 am

Wamitoria wrote:
Saluterre wrote:
Fair point. We'll see soon enough. I know we won't have a "President Stewart Alexander," but t'll be interesting to see if a third party gets more than one percent, preferably not the Constitution or Libertarian parties.

If any one party gets more than 1% of the vote, it'll probably be the Libertarian Party.

Much higher name recognition than the various socialist parties, and the Green Party is pretty much hated by many people.


You mean the "You are Libertarian, we're not a party" Libertarian[classically liberal] party? :palm: :lol:
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Spontaneous protests will not produce organisation, it is more likely to lead to an oppressive clampdown! There needs to be a long-term strategy to build the left towards..
-mass parties of the left
-mass trade unions
-mass left-wing publications

Europe
For a United socialist Europe under democratic working class rule.
For the unity of the working class across Europe and eventually* take power.
*'Towards a communist party of the EU'

Britain
For a voluntary federated democratic republic.

Scotland
Abstain on independence referendum, Salmond wants to keep within the union!

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Postby Aglorea » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:08 pm

Caninope wrote:
Aglorea wrote:We haven't adapted the Constitution in any meaningful way in the past two hundred years or so. Other than that I generally agree with what you said, even if I am a bit less optimistic about the decline of partisan politics.

And as for the discussion on the electoral college a page back, I'm quite fine with it. Electing the president by popular vote would be too democratic for my tastes.

I have a few black friends who want to disagree with that.

But we haven't. There have been more rights granted through various amendments, true, but fundamentally the Constitution itself hasn't been meaningfully changed. As far as that goes, the most radical change would be electing senators by popular vote.

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Postby Crogach » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:22 pm

If we really want to make the US a multiparty democracy on the federal level you're going to have to do a few things:

-Elect the president directly via popular vote.
-Triple the number of senators allotted to each state, such that each state is a six-person constituency
-Use the single transferable vote (STV) with the Droop quota to elect senators
-Use instant runoff voting (IRV) to elect representatives and the president.

How STV works:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote

How IRV works:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_runoff_voting
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